Seeker, finally came around to address your post.
SeekerofWisdom wrote: A sort of interaction with the world which still retains an awareness of these truths, but holds on to some form of purpose or another. On that note I'd say, why not achieve? As long as one isn't getting sucked into and immersed by a world (which I don't think is entirely possible anymore when one has had these insights already) then I think that using ones ability makes more sense than just being with no purpose.
You make it sound like the "world" would still be an actual place or state to flip on and off. To enter and leave. But this split is not actually there. It's more like a cognitive effect of observation, of detachment perhaps. The best word I know is
disintegration but it's a falling apart of a false image. Even the split of self, created by thought and sense accumulation, is shown to be merely shadow play.
In the world there are various barriers between people which are almost never removed. Financial barriers, egoistic barriers, barriers based in distrust, and so on. It's apparently obvious that if people (for example those who are so concerned with their financial situation) were to be free from these barriers then they would thrive more than ever.
Cause and effect: many barriers are indeed part and parcel of the machinery. The whole process wouldn't be there without them. Dissolving barriers is then another name for death. But by that time a new process usually arrives, defining new barriers to work by.
A mind who has recognized all this and is alone has little purpose, little reason to spur itself on, little motivation to achieve much aside from to be and continue and contemplate. It's only when we apply other people as some kind of purpose or motivation that ones full worldly potential is ever applied.
In my view "purpose" is something that arises out of circumstance, a certain distribution of energies and position. It's something that pulls and drives you, when standing in the middle of a stream. Life then would become purposeless, "lifeless", when trying to abandon it. But a truth seeker will recognize this as the presence of a
hidden purpose, to escape, to abandon, to desire the lack of desire. The will to the end. It's possible to theorize that such will is tied up with all other will to start anything: the dialectic view of life, things as a complex dynamic of opposing forces and directions. Desiring something coupled with the wish to annihilate it: the very collision as effect and movement. It's just a way to look at things and does help to understand causality better, even as abstract, partial model.
As far as I see it the intelligent are always in a position of conventional power, and so far there's no motivation to use it.
I think such motivation will arise out of that position inside a stream of power dynamics and possibilities. Conventional power is under the surface just a conglomerate of motives, desires, agenda and such. One doesn't end up in there by not being already part of it. It's network based! Perhaps that's the paradox of power?
Diebert van Rhijn wrote:And what if you're already free? So far, "do nothing" has been our answer. I've elucidated upon truth and recognized delusion for long enough now, "do nothing" is no more wise than doing or achieving, which seems the logical choice to me.
Do nothing in the sense that it's being realized only god is doing, like in the same way only causality truly exists. It's not a matter of translating that to a specific non-action at the level of the individual, of the self. Then again, it's true enough that people are too caught up inside their own actions, their own "doing" to even consider, to reflect upon anything. In that context it's good to call for "do nothing" as that's probably better than just keep being caught up into the ignorance of others, these imagery worlds collectively fabricated and maintained for whatever purpose. And I mean "good" in the context of valuing insight into the nature of things. Perhaps for its own sake?
Diebert van Rhijn wrote:Absolute and worldly, ultimate and conventional, selfhood or emptiness, the difference only resides in ones focus. Conventionally, we're making a choice on what to focus on every day. Even to sit still and take no action, one is making a choice each day.
It's more like a wild fire burning. Once it really starts, no way to put it out. To become conscious, observant and reflective is just like that. Not a still passive block of ice (although in some sense it's like the top of the Matterhorn) but also an active consuming process, which is already out of your hands.