Earth is Paradise
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The perspective of what is ignorant changes from person to person, he is happy he is alive and still parker, for him it wasn't ignorant, he says it was worth it, to retain his self.
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you still show up as somebody on the spectrum of consciousness.
a causal pattern.
back in the day a hole in the ground was dug for a 1 guy whose mind was on fire.
the 1 guy was buried up to his shoulders with his head sticking out.
someone sat, at all times in complete silence, 50 yards away with food and water to dispense periodically to the 1 guy.
the 1 guy gets massively pissed off.
screaming abuse, threatening, spitting, trying desperately to wriggle free.
mood shift to pleading, begging, promising.
mood shift to crying, moaning, sputtering.
mood shift to hysterical, insane laughter.
cycling thru the moods,
day after day.
after about a week something in the 1 guy breaks.
a calm acceptance shows up in him.
Peace.
he has 'come to his senses'.
they dig him out.
He's now fit for Inquiry.
a causal pattern.
back in the day a hole in the ground was dug for a 1 guy whose mind was on fire.
the 1 guy was buried up to his shoulders with his head sticking out.
someone sat, at all times in complete silence, 50 yards away with food and water to dispense periodically to the 1 guy.
the 1 guy gets massively pissed off.
screaming abuse, threatening, spitting, trying desperately to wriggle free.
mood shift to pleading, begging, promising.
mood shift to crying, moaning, sputtering.
mood shift to hysterical, insane laughter.
cycling thru the moods,
day after day.
after about a week something in the 1 guy breaks.
a calm acceptance shows up in him.
Peace.
he has 'come to his senses'.
they dig him out.
He's now fit for Inquiry.
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LOL awesome! I wish I could do that.
What's your point in all this tho? Who is up for inquiry?
Why do you inquire? Is there something you are trying to achieve?
What's your point in all this tho? Who is up for inquiry?
Why do you inquire? Is there something you are trying to achieve?
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I've got a hole out back ready for ya'.LOL awesome! I wish I could do that.
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lol and what is your inquiry Dennis?
Haven't we spoken about this, how could I know what your trying to "teach" if you've never said?
Haven't we spoken about this, how could I know what your trying to "teach" if you've never said?
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Funny, that's what I'm trying to teach,
"don't know" = "Don't know external reality", "don't know matter" "Don't know time" "Don't know death" "Don't know birth" "Don't know evolution, big bang, Occam's razor" "Don't know anything"
"Don't know" = thoughts are just thoughts
What's left? Consciousness
Is there something I need to unlearn?
If everything is open to inquiry, why isn't Dennis?
"don't know" = "Don't know external reality", "don't know matter" "Don't know time" "Don't know death" "Don't know birth" "Don't know evolution, big bang, Occam's razor" "Don't know anything"
"Don't know" = thoughts are just thoughts
What's left? Consciousness
Is there something I need to unlearn?
If everything is open to inquiry, why isn't Dennis?
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don't know inherent existence.
can't be found.
can't be found.
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There is no ego nor anything belonging to an ego
What do you think I have given inherent existence?
A group should be formed..
What do you think I have given inherent existence?
A group should be formed..
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I haven't got enough holes ready.
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ok then fine, to clear it up, what do you think it is you know that I don't know? Or don't know that I don't know?
My little head is waiting here in the sand> :)
My little head is waiting here in the sand> :)
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We could invent something and believe it.
for that kind of work I require salary.
for that kind of work I require salary.
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Sound you have at least one issue: other people having issues. But why say "they" are in need of something if it's the same to you. Since they appear in your consciousness as does their need to bite.SeekerOfWisdom wrote: lol Diebert it isn't the apples it's the people, they are full and need to be emptied before they even consider taking a bite.
I have no issues, other people have issues, and I'm simply in the way, circumstance, so I attempt to try and lessen issues for everyone's calming benefit, either way for me it's still the same, there is no departure and arrival, only the journey.
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Then take something in error, bestow it existence, do the "right" thing, whatever that is, but the thing being still in error, let it go and disappear?Dennis Mahar wrote:don't know inherent existence.
can't be found.
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Some errors are quite delicious.
If you can join the dots up in particular ways.
the error maker?
what if the errormaker knows it is errormaking
would the errormaker be in error.
If you can join the dots up in particular ways.
I'd like some education on that one as to what it could mean.but the thing being still in error, let it go and disappear?
the error maker?
what if the errormaker knows it is errormaking
would the errormaker be in error.
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Dennis, I'm having an ethical crisis. Can you please help me discern the logical flaw in the "Take It!" video? It's a popular viewpoint these days and if I can't beat them I may have to join them.
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The reasoning looks like:
The true nature of human being is the base nature.
Human beings have forsaken their base nature.
Therefore human beings must recover the base nature in order to be their true nature.
The first premise is 'fracked'.
The true nature of human being is the base nature.
Human beings have forsaken their base nature.
Therefore human beings must recover the base nature in order to be their true nature.
The first premise is 'fracked'.
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Thank you for helping me understand that fallacy. Then again, why not? Don't our anxieties stem from the consequences projected from our uncertain knowledge? If I accept my fate and overcome them, then what?
I've been considering many viewpoints and I've noticed a prevalence of this particular one in mass media and our institutions. Day by day its adherents increase the amount of competition on Earth at an accelerating pace. As I said I may succumb to remain competitive. I must confess that sometimes in my weaker moments its alluring promotional materials tempt me with its excitement and fearlessness. Is there a reason that can bolster my resolve to live ascetically and not shape my life like the people in this video?
I've been considering many viewpoints and I've noticed a prevalence of this particular one in mass media and our institutions. Day by day its adherents increase the amount of competition on Earth at an accelerating pace. As I said I may succumb to remain competitive. I must confess that sometimes in my weaker moments its alluring promotional materials tempt me with its excitement and fearlessness. Is there a reason that can bolster my resolve to live ascetically and not shape my life like the people in this video?
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The first premise is an assertion concerning true nature of human being.
To assert must come out of 'a capacity to assert'.
To reason must come out of 'a capacity to reason'.
A capacity to reason is prior to any reasoning.
What opens up now is a natural hierarchy.
Postmodernists declare there is no hierarchy and self-contradict because in saying that the implication is their declaration is 'better'.
What's available now is:
Witness to reasoning.
We can stand apart from 'the reasoning' as Witness.
excluding 'witness to reasoning' is getting away from 'true nature.
In your case, the ethical crisis amounts to,
in witness of possibilities,
which way to 'jump',
what's in it for me.
To assert must come out of 'a capacity to assert'.
To reason must come out of 'a capacity to reason'.
A capacity to reason is prior to any reasoning.
What opens up now is a natural hierarchy.
Postmodernists declare there is no hierarchy and self-contradict because in saying that the implication is their declaration is 'better'.
What's available now is:
Witness to reasoning.
We can stand apart from 'the reasoning' as Witness.
excluding 'witness to reasoning' is getting away from 'true nature.
In your case, the ethical crisis amounts to,
in witness of possibilities,
which way to 'jump',
what's in it for me.
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Perfect, that which is invented never existed at all. External reality.Dennis Mahar wrote:We could invent something and believe it.
for that kind of work I require salary.
"A capacity to reason is prior to any reasoning"
Also, "A capacity to discriminate is prior to any discrimination"
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Brad,
From where does intention arise before it is manifested into action?
Is it thought? Or some other way?
The correct choice won't require a decision, just take it!
From where does intention arise before it is manifested into action?
Is it thought? Or some other way?
The correct choice won't require a decision, just take it!
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Improving your clarity would be helpful. Without specifying the post or the exact premise it seems to me that you're still painfully explaining that fallacy that I granted.Dennis Mahar wrote:The first premise is an assertion concerning true nature of human being.
Consider that some more and you will suffer fewer mistakes from exploitive play.what's in it for me.
Alex T. Jacob wrote:The 'trickster' is always there, like an ironic presence laughing at us behind the manifestation, and all its tricks are only to make us aware. The 'power' that pushes us toward awareness is utterly indifferent to us!
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That's what Dennis is vainly trying to stop. Muahahahaha!SeekerOfWisdom wrote:just take it!
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I've got a hole ready for you Brad.
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Dennis, the agencies that you wish you could defend against find your manipulation tactics merely amusing.