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Carl G wrote:On a serious note, board wiseguy Nick Treklis has already surmised that all crop circles are human made, they are created by groups of extremely talented artists. I say we confront some of these secretive creators and ask them what they meant by the various designs.

If only you'd listen to what the artists who make them actually say, you wouldn't be spewing all this fucking crap.

If crop circles are all man made, which is possible, I admit, does that mean that everything is man made, including the wheat that it's written on? Surely wheat is man made too, since humans grow it..

Tell me, is there anything that occurs that can not be attributed to human activity?

human artists want recognition for their art work...as well as compensation....don't you find it odd that no artist had come forward ?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mAdrSvOgwI

Kunga wrote:human artists want recognition for their art work...as well as compensation....don't you find it odd that no artist had come forward ?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mAdrSvOgwI

Interesting video, because I think it tells me how they are making them, and how it would be possible in the future to make them on their planet as well. They are twisting the bubbles actually inside our sun. The twist is then spiralled down towards our planet. That's because like string theory, the bubbles chains are almost unlimited in length. That confirms it for me. They are real.

There is so much of my theory in the video that it is almost unbelievable. From, snowflakes to tomatoes, to peacocks, all part of my theory, and all posts which you can find by me on other sites.

Although wrecked by a lot of not so bright individuals, you will find half tomatoes, and snowflakes in this thread......
http://www.avforums.com/forums/general- ... thing.html

Robert wrote:

Carl G wrote:On a serious note, board wiseguy Nick Treklis has already surmised that all crop circles are human made, they are created by groups of extremely talented artists. I say we confront some of these secretive creators and ask them what they meant by the various designs.

If only you'd listen to what the artists who make them actually say, you wouldn't be spewing all this fucking crap.

Put up a link or shut the fuck up. The photos I've seen of man made circles show stomped grain, not swirled unbroken stalks.

Carl G wrote:

Robert wrote:

Carl G wrote:On a serious note, board wiseguy Nick Treklis has already surmised that all crop circles are human made, they are created by groups of extremely talented artists. I say we confront some of these secretive creators and ask them what they meant by the various designs.

If only you'd listen to what the artists who make them actually say, you wouldn't be spewing all this fucking crap.

Put up a link or shut the fuck up. The photos I've seen of man made circles show stomped grain, not swirled unbroken stalks.

Carl, I specifically put up a link to an audio interview with a known crop circle making artist for your attention in the other thread. I also put up another link to a written article with yet another artist a little later, again in the same thread. If you're serious about this shit, then at least pay a modicum of attention to what those people WHO ACTUALLY MAKE THEM say. You may learn something of value.

I find this interesting. I don't know if it is a fake, or what?

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2811644/u ... piter_sun/

In my model it doesn't matter about the sunspots. The sun should be stable. Not sure what it means in the regular model with a core.

this is the most energy i have expended reguarding investigation into this phenomena of crop circles....
i am not obsessed by this stuff...but the possibilities of them being extraterrestial are just as logical as not.

if they were created by human artists (i myself have never seen any documentaries of artists creating crop circles)...HOW IN THE HELL DO THEY DO IT ???

they would have to created them from above...not walking on the ground....
they look PERFECT !!!!!

of all mediums to create precise geometric designs wheat fields/organic materials were chosen.....probebly the most difficult to create perfect geometric
patterns in......IT SEEMS IMPOSSIBLE TO ME that a human could do this without destroying the wheat....

all you brainiacs out there...PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME !!!!!!!!!!

My theory (not applicable to current science)

If you have heard of the primordial soup, you know that it is an explanation for how DNA was mixed around in a bog, and life was created. All I have done is to move the primordial soup into the Universe, and let it create everything. So the whole of the universe is a soup. You can visualise it like a bunch of washing up bubbles in a sink. If you can get them to press together, you get a lot of Hexagons, and other shapes. Now you can twitch those bubbles like a spider web, so that a wave travels through them. If you push one bubble, it moves quite a few in an outward motion. The Universe of bubbles are very similar in size mostly, and I think there are about 13 in an atom. They join together in lines, like a string necklace. So.. like a telephone made from two cups, and a string, you can send a message down them all the way to the other end of the universe. The crops in a field are all made from these bubbles, and from the top to the bottom is a string of bubbles. This string can be twitched from millions of miles away. But you can do more than just twitch them. You can spin them like a tornado. In my theory this is how a magnet works, and the bubbles are spinning invisibly. You would need a really strong spin to twist the crop down to the ground. Maybe a very powerful spinning electric current, which also drops down to create an energetic spiral. You could do it from anywhere. I doubt that the aliens could survive anywhere near our planet. I have the aliens as Anti-matter, and they would explode here.

And what do you see in crop circles.. some burned bubbles, a magnetic force, a spin, and more or less, my description.

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-Kunga-
Human artists want recognition for their art work...as well as compensation....don't you find it odd that no artist had come forward?

-tomas-
Crop circles were first noted in the 17th century.

well today i imagined in my head if i were an artist making those crop circles...this is one possibility :

i would have to make( in a metal of some kind) the shapes
then arrange the metal shapes onto the wheat
then through pressure make the imprint onto the wheat field

but i think that would look a little sloppy...
those geometric shapes are incredibly perfect looking
it would be cumbersome to haul these big metal plates around
let alone somebody seeing you...

i am not a genius
i'm maybe slightly above average in intelligence
i would like to hear an explaination from those of you that are geniuses as to how these
crop circles could be made...

Pinch Paxton: you're way over my head ! LOL

Tomas : yes i've read they've been around for a few centurys at least.


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Trailer for Movie 2012:


http://www.whowillsurvive2012.com/?hs308=TTM043C

Robert wrote:

Carl G wrote:

Robert wrote: If only you'd listen to what the artists who make them actually say, you wouldn't be spewing all this fucking crap.

Put up a link or shut the fuck up. The photos I've seen of man made circles show stomped grain, not swirled unbroken stalks.

Carl, I specifically put up a link to an audio interview with a known crop circle making artist for your attention in the other thread. I also put up another link to a written article with yet another artist a little later, again in the same thread. If you're serious about this shit, then at least pay a modicum of attention to what those people WHO ACTUALLY MAKE THEM say. You may learn something of value.

Okay, I went back and checked those two links. One is the written interview with John Lundberg, he of circlemakers.org. Neither the interview nor the site (which apparently hasn't been updated in two years) offer any insights except the fact that some circles are human-made with boards and stings. The book advertised on the interview page looks promising (for more info), "The Field Guide: The art, history, and Philosophy of Circle Making" by Rob Irving and John Lundberg.

The other link, to the audio interview with Rob Irving from 2005, I just finished listening to over half of, some 45 minutes. It is a friendly chat between Skeptic Magazine and an artist. It doesn't purport to speak of the entire phenomenon, and barely even broaches the nuts and bolts of his individual craft. Poor.

What do you find these fellows saying that is so important?

Edit to add: Okay, I just finished the Rob Irving interview. Nice guy. Interesting how he describes, near the end of the broadcast, how sometimes he and his crew experience, while working at night on a circle, all sorts of random lights in the sky close by and overhead. Unexplainable to him. But basically the interview never got around to asking him big questions about the crop circle phenomenon itself, such as did he think that all formations are made by human artists like himself? He did mention some smaller circles he's seen that struck him as not being human-made. On the whole I thought the Skeptic interviewers could have steered the conversation into a greater discussion, about more than just his handicraft.

Remote Viewing (Nothing new to Tibetan Buddhism) :

Reguarding 2012 :

http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/12-26-04.asp

Interesting ideas. Another plausible cause is some as of yet misunderstood natural phenomena. I mean, snowflakes aren't made by aliens or humans.

Carl, does the whole idea that it's a game the artists are playing and encouraging between the folks who want to believe in some explanation other than what they're actually doing with their own hands and feet strike you as uninteresting and/or uncompelling? If you didn't come away from listening to Rob Irving's interview with that understanding, then I can only assume you weren't really listening. What they're doing is far more interesting than making pretty pictures in wheat, and has to be looked at from the perspective of an artistic endeavour that plays on the hidden sources of these manifestations and their consequences amongst peoples "beliefs", highlighting and exposing the irrational desires we all can have. He is very explicit about this in the interview.

To be clear, what I'm talking about are those larger complex patterns made by these artists, not the smaller simpler ones that could be created by "natural" forces, birds, wind, weather etc. I don't care about those.

Kunga wrote:Trailer for Movie 2012:


http://www.whowillsurvive2012.com/?hs308=TTM043C

The problem is that nobody can really figure this out without using my Science, and getting rid of the current science. The government probably doesn't know what is going to happen. Even Einstein couldn't figure this out, he had too much told to him during his life to get a clean slate to work with. I need to talk to mathematicians, and scientists, and reinvent everything from scratch. Even '0' is wrong, and doesn't exist. Math's can't work with zero, so there isn't much chance of anyone getting anywhere with it. I'm the only chance, and I'm just stuck here at home. I'm making new discoveries every day. Today I figured out that our Universe is just the Milky Way, and anything outside of it is another Universe. All of those Hexagons that I drew on the NASA image are different Universe.

I always started to read the Bible, and got to 'The Ark', and then put it down. Too unbelievable. But last week I figured out that 'The Ark' is in fact a pyramid.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arc_(geometry)

See, it even has an eye at the top.

And the information means get everything into a pyramid.

Jesus was put into a cave, and the entrance was sealed, and then he rose again.

That means, get into a cave, and seal the entrance so that you can survive, and mankind can rise again.

Noah is in fact part of the sun... spelled NOAA
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewnews.html?id=308

Which produces huge flares. The flares Arch towards us. NOAA's Arch.

There was a huge flare in April 2001, 5 months before 9/11.
The flare came from NOAA.



The great flood then follows when we come out again.

Jesus would be put into a Pyramid after his death, so that is where to find him. Unless it's just a warning.

Pincho, have you ever been diagnosed as bipolar?

Elizabeth Isabelle wrote:Pincho, have you ever been diagnosed as bipolar?

No but I have been diagnosed as a genius.. twice. I have discovered the 'Theory Of Everything' Which is the most amazing theory known to science. It can be used to solve almost any problem that you put your mind to. In fact, it could tell you what Bipolar actually is in the brain. I am already about 10 times more intelligent than Einstein maybe a lot more. I must be over 2000 IQ by now. Every day I can teach myself something new, I don't even need a tutor any more.

"Genius" is not a diagnosis.

Elizabeth Isabelle wrote:"Genius" is not a diagnosis.

It is if you compare it to Bipolar. You have to have two matching results from a question. see genius.

Robert wrote:Carl, does the whole idea that it's a game the artists are playing and encouraging between the folks who want to believe in some explanation other than what they're actually doing with their own hands and feet strike you as uninteresting and/or uncompelling? If you didn't come away from listening to Rob Irving's interview with that understanding, then I can only assume you weren't really listening. What they're doing is far more interesting than making pretty pictures in wheat, and has to be looked at from the perspective of an artistic endeavour that plays on the hidden sources of these manifestations and their consequences amongst peoples "beliefs", highlighting and exposing the irrational desires we all can have. He is very explicit about this in the interview.

It is moderately compelling. I am an artist myself, and have done some fairly large pieces, even with some mysterious components, so I can appreciate the dynamics of which he speaks. But what is really compelling to me is the very real probability that there are certain anomalies in some crop formations which exclude the type of construction his group uses. For example, the bent stalks with elongated nodes. How do these nodes get distorted? He doesn't address this in the interview.

where are the videos showing the artists creating the crop circles...(.that could be a cover-up/hoax too).....i'm sure the ones they show them doing are simple and crappy looking...not perfect geometric shapes like the awesome ones we see.....

i seriously can't imagine how it's done....heat (500 degrees ?) is suspected in creating these...we aleady know how snowflakes are formed (water crystals)

but what natural elemental phenomena would CREATE a intelligent design ???!!

Come on Geniuses....give us the answer !!!!!!!!

i will be happy to accept they're not alien produced.
but it seems like the only logical explaination.