Beyond Words

Discussion of the nature of Ultimate Reality and the path to Enlightenment.
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Re: Beyond Words

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Divine,

You are just joking around by quoting Gary Renard!?

He writes:
The way you will experience and feel about yourself is not determined by how other people look at and think about you. The way that you wiill experience and feel about youerself is actually determined by how you look at and think about them. Ultimately, this determines your identity.
He obviously sees all other people as gullible fools - and he the expert conman.
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Sue Hindmarsh wrote:You are just joking around by quoting Gary Renard!?
No. I wouldn't put it in his exact terms, but in essence he is correct. You are already whole and perfect, and so is everyone else. Your wholeness is not separate from that of everyone else's; it is the same. Through acceptance, this is realized. Through judgment, it is only forgotten.

As for your identity, this is realized though direction. Your direction presently is in harmony with all direction everywhere. It allows you knowledge of choice and of consequences. In acceptance and in following your direction, every choice will benefit. It is only through control that karmically "negative" choices are made, control being reinforced by judgment. Relaxing into direction is key. Also, it is not necessarily black-and-white. Different aspects of consciousness are involved in the dynamic of control/direction. It all begins with the direction of action, then of physical feeling, then of thought.
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How is judgement not part of what one perfectly is?
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It is a part; it is the part that allows a perceived separation of identity. This experience has value. At the present time, this experience of separation has diminished in value as we have chosen collectively to begin a mass awakening. Value is individual, and some will choose to begin to awaken earlier than others, some not much at all. It does not matter. The awakening of all society as a whole will happen within the century.
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And this prediction is based on what?
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The trusting of knowlegde revealed through direction, trust being the cornerstone of wisdom.
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What direction? The way humanity is heading, you mean?
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Direction is a term used to describe the the experience of harmony or flow. The experience leads to growth, an expansion of awareness which makes things clearer and more "visible" in a sensed way. It is termed direction because you are participating in the harmony; you have a literal direction, though not necessarily toward an end goal.
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Let me run that through Babelfish and get back to you.
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In essence, you are an action, a movement. There is necessarily direction. This is the intent "behind" the action, though it is not behind. There is nothing previous.
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I was asking how you justify the idea that Humanity will attain some kind of awakening in this century. So far you haven't. Why do you think this is going to happen? If your answer is that you simply "trust" that it will, don't bother replying. I'll trust you.
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Much of what I know is based on intuitive feelings connected to the whole of my integrated knowledge. It is not easy to backtrack through all logical conclusions leading up to a specific knowing; it is definitely not natural for me. It would be a forcing of my energy, when my natural attention moves more fluidly. I am able to feel a situation based on my integrated knowledge and communicate much as if I had made logical deductions--which I have, but can't see within a sequence.

This has been the case throughout my focus, regardless of my level of awareness.
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divine focus wrote:Much of what I know is based on intuitive feelings connected to the whole of my integrated knowledge. It is not easy to backtrack through all logical conclusions leading up to a specific knowing; it is definitely not natural for me. It would be a forcing of my energy, when my natural attention moves more fluidly. I am able to feel a situation based on my integrated knowledge and communicate much as if I had made logical deductions--which I have, but can't see within a sequence.

This has been the case throughout my focus, regardless of my level of awareness.
How much backtracking did you have to do to come up with this explanation?
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Re: Beyond Words

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My intent is not to prove anything but to be of assistance in the path of growth. This assists my own growth.
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