GENIUS FORUMS

You may be interested to know,someones taken notice. ;) http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_sage1.htm

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andymonk wrote:You may be interested to know,someones taken notice. ;) http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_sage1.htm

Sheldrake, "The Presence of the Past" presents the notion of "morphic resonance"
in which instinct is not coded in the DNA, but emanates wirelessly, ie
telepathically among similar sets of DNA. Since Sheldrake wrote, it turns out there
is something to it.

I've not seen the studies, but he claims that if you teach a rat how to do
something, when you go to teach other rats, who've not had any contact with your
original. Or a neighbor tells me, that if I pick an oak leaf, all the other oaks
in the area will up the tannic acid level. Common knowledge back when tannin was
used on leather.

At a more fundamental level, it was formerly thot that the universe had always
existed and went on forever, that atoms were like billiard balls, and that likewise the
human spirit was eternal and unlimited. But now we see the limits on the former,
and dont want to think about the limits on the latter. we are all parts of the One, but
now see that the One has its own limits. Further, that the limits themselves are changing.

That the whole ball of wax is evolving, and that just as humanity is getting
more connected, so is everything else. Which is why we are seeing crop circles,
looking for, but not having yet found, a mutual method of communication. Our DNA
has such different pattern recognition systems that whatever is there that is
looking in our direction, cannot even imagine what we are, any more than we can
imagine what the artist or artistry is.

The question is whether there is a pattern written into our DNA that will be
able to plug into that trip. My own personal experience is that some reports on
altered states of consciousness do just that. I've read of Quatum Physics
experiments that use pairs of photons, sent down directly opposite directions
for 25 km or whatever, that have similar reactions exiting the fiber cable
despite an effect put on only one of them. There is a direct connection between
them in some other dimension that can connect two points faster than the speed
of light. There's no reason to think that this connection can only carry that
kind of data. It sounds like morphic resonance.

Part of whats going on that Sheldrake didnt know about are methyl tags that hang
on DNA like dog ticks and which empower, or disempower the DNA to replicate.
The tags can be disturbed by electro magnetic force. Which is a field, which he
thot was involved. The 'flower of life' looks a lot like a crop circle, altho more recent
designs have become more complex. Which is another point he makes, that this
whole world, not just the lifeforms on it, undergoes evolution into more complex
forms.

Everyone will be surprised when they find out that this shape actually works.

Everyone will be surprised when they find out that this shape actually works.

It has structure so it is not fundamental. If it is not fundamental it is no more "creationary" than any other form. Nor is that particular shape holistic - it is not the only such shape, there are tonnes of mandlebrot shapes that can occur by changing the starting conditions. It is mere fantasy to think it has great meaning.

Jamesh wrote:

Everyone will be surprised when they find out that this shape actually works.

It has structure so it is not fundamental. If it is not fundamental it is no more "creationary" than any other form. Nor is that particular shape holistic - it is not the only such shape, there are tonnes of mandlebrot shapes that can occur by changing the starting conditions. It is mere fantasy to think it has great meaning.

That's what I thought when I first saw it. But I was working on a way to connect Physics to Quantum physics, and realised that there is something between you, and your wall in your living room. Something that allows us to see things, and something that propogates waves. I designed this array of hexagons, and it perfectly fits the flower of life. It has to be layed out exactly like this geometric shape so that we get true perspective.

Hello. I came across your discovery during the course of my research into this very matter. I must beg, no plead that you not continue looking into this ancient symbol. I myself once went too deep into its mysteries, andI feel bound by duty to dissuade others from discovering the same truths!

I first discovered this symbol doing research while assisting my history professor in Arabic and Islamic studies. We were exploring the so-called "Golden Age" of Islamic thought, wherein they mined texts of the ancient Greeks to bolster their fledgling religion. It was during these studies that we first head the name of one Abdul Alhazred. Our own library being insufficient to provide even a glimpse of this man and his obscure contributions, we had to requisition primary sources via ILL. We put out a call for materials, but only received one response, from a backwards little college somewhere in Massachusetts. While unwilling to send us the primary source directly, they graciously provided photographs of key pages that surveyed the Arab's work.

My hands shake to remember the sight of those pages. That image you link to was the primary feature of the first photograph. Unable to translate the text directly, I had no choice but to rely on my mentor's recitation of the lines. Before I proceed, let me tell you that no sane hand wrote these words. On appearance alone, the pagan letters scrawleed their way across the page, bleeding from one line the next, as if unseen forces whipped the author to write faster and faster. The images, while hastily drawn, showed a cruel clarity oft reserved for the paintings of asylum patients.

As the professor began to read the text, his face blanched white at the words as they described the image. The professor kept reading, mumbling to himself, quickly moving the photos under a magnifying lens to better read. This being a rather stormy March day, a large bolt of lightning struck nearby and shorted our power. The electricty was off but an instant, but the sudden shock of it threw my elderly friend into convulsions on the floor. I rushed to find assistance and get him to the infirmary, where they administered a strong sedative.

He didn't awaken for three days, when he violently started screaming in some unkown tongue. While unable to understand the exact nature of his words, the Hindi doctor said that his speech sounds vaguely arabic, but carried taint or corruption of the language with which he was not familiar. I was summoned immediately, having been the last person to see my friend before his accident. When I arrived, a practitioner of psychoanalysis was in the midst of calming the poor man down. After roughly an hour wait, I was permitted to speak with the patient.

The look on the man's face cannot be described. If it's possbile to age twenty years in a breath, my teacher had done so. He motioned me over next to the bed, so I could kneel beside him.

In a faint voice, the professor told me what he'd read in the passages. He said that he'd recognized the symbol, pulling down his shirt to reveal a Masonic tatoo. He'd only seen the symbol once, at his initiation, and then he merely glimpsed it in the elder's texts. The photographed pages had put the symbol into context. Previously, he'd believed it to be no more than a few hundred years old. Recent research had shown it to exist back thousands of years, originating in Afrikan cave paintings. What the arab text claimed, however, was nothing short of amazing.

I hesitate to write more, but must tell of my researches, to prevent you from making the same error.

The professor informed me that the pages he read indicated an older date for the symbol, much further removed than previously thought. The mad arab purported to find the symbol blasted from the earth in the midst of a powerful volcano. It was this that drove my professor to hysterics on realizing it, for our research spoke of this very act! Our own university had rocks from that infernal explosion, dating them back not thousands of years, or even tens of thousands to a time when humans first ventured forth from the trees.

No, the force of the blast launched particles from deep with the earth, from the time of the giant saurians before the freezing of the Ice Ages. To take the arab at his word, the symbol predates our so called civilization.

It may be tempting to doubt what I've said here, but please, do not research it more. What else my friend and mentor may have read is beyond me, for I've safely burned those cursed photographs. He is not yet fully recovered, and seems to sometimes slip into recitations of those foul lines.

On occasion, I've been able to pick out fragmentary bits of his ramblings. While I do not speak the tongue, it's evident that he metions too things that turn his eyes to pinholes when he remembers them. For he fears mention of the pagan amazonian god R'lyeh, and that feared devil of the darkest skinned polynesians, Yog-Sothoth.

I beg you, look no further into that symbol. In it lies pagan madness, and glimpses at realms we must not know.

This thread is officially bizarre.

Of course, that last thread just serves to pique my interest! Now I have to get to the bottom of it. ;)

If you get time,watch this video. I believe Nassim is speaking about the complete flower of life,without realising it. http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?doc ... &plindex=1

andymonk wrote:If you get time,watch this video. I believe Nassim is speaking about the complete flower of life,without realising it. http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?doc ... &plindex=1

Well, well, andymonk... yer gettin' close...

However, wait til ya see what is unearthed at King Solomon's Temple dig-site in Jerusalem, Israel.

You ain't seen nothin' yet!


ps- here's a clue - 11.5


Tomas (the tank)
Prince of Jerusalem
16 Degree
Scottish Rite Free Mason




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I suggest you all check out the "Indiana Jones" movies. They are full of ancient symbolism. I can provide links, but I think there are already enough of those in this thread.

andymonk wrote:If you get time,watch this video. I believe Nassim is speaking about the complete flower of life,without realising it. http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?doc ... &plindex=1

For whatever reason,google have pulled Nassim`s new video. You can get the older version here. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... &plindex=0

andymonk wrote:If you relax(sit three feet away from the screen)and let the flower slowly draw your eyes out of focus,the flower will open. Try and not focus on any one point,blankly stare,take the flower in as a whole. Do not strain your eyes,as it will happen naturally. We do not see with our eyes,we see THROUGH our eyes. Let your mind focus,dont fight it. You may get a headache and itchy eyes,this will quickly disappear. This is not a known science,but if you let it happen,you will be supprised by what appears.

An optical illusion.

andymonk wrote:The complete ancient flower of life is not a srereogram,a magic eye image or any other man made optical illusion. (use the hand drawn flower)

This is exactly what it appears to be, and what you've said it is. For those like me to make the leap of faith that this is something other than an optical illusion, I must experience something more than an optical illusion when I observe it. Your personal mystical experience has no relevance on my experience.

ataxas wrote:

andymonk wrote:If you relax(sit three feet away from the screen)and let the flower slowly draw your eyes out of focus,the flower will open. Try and not focus on any one point,blankly stare,take the flower in as a whole. Do not strain your eyes,as it will happen naturally. We do not see with our eyes,we see THROUGH our eyes. Let your mind focus,dont fight it. You may get a headache and itchy eyes,this will quickly disappear. This is not a known science,but if you let it happen,you will be supprised by what appears.

An optical illusion.

andymonk wrote:The complete ancient flower of life is not a srereogram,a magic eye image or any other man made optical illusion. (use the hand drawn flower)

This is exactly what it appears to be, and what you've said it is. For those like me to make the leap of faith that this is something other than an optical illusion, I must experience something more than an optical illusion when I observe it. Your personal mystical experience has no relevance on my experience.

Scroll down to fovea.....
http://webvision.med.utah.edu/sretina.html

There is a flower of life inside your eye, which is maybe why the optical illusion works for some people. The fact that it exists is the reason that it works.. and that is quite neat.

I believe i have discovered the earths grid,which is based on the complete flower of life. If you look at the attached image,you will see a map of the island of sanday,which is a part of the orkney islands. I believe this island is one of the starting points of the worlds grid. As you can see at the NE of the island,there just happens to be a light house positioned on a place called start point. I dont have the equipment to post the grid,but if you would like to draw it? First you will require an ordnance survey map(scale 1;25000). Second...... draw a circle with a radius of 2.575miles(5000megalithic yards). Thirdly.....position this circle so the arc runs from start point along scuthvie bay to tofts ness. 4....where the arc cuts through start point,place the point of the compass and draw another circle,creating a vesica piscis. 5.... continue to draw the flower of life. The flower will spiral out,running through all ancient sites,standing stones,cathedrals,churches etc. You will see as you go along,all ancient sites lie at the centre of six points. I look forward to your feedback.x http://homepages.compuserve.de/WFKSchli ... iSANDY.jpg

Does this flower of life thing have anything to do with E8?

DHodges wrote:Does this flower of life thing have anything to do with E8?

I would say that the Flower Of Life is a symbol of subconcious description. I watched Jurrasic Park 1, and I knew instantly that The T-Rex was not walking how it should walk, and that there was something wrong with the mathematical interpretation of the T-Rex acceleration, Deceleration values. Jurrasic Park 2 fixed the problems. This symbol is like a vague understanding of something to do with nature. I put it down to the fact that our eyes have the hexagon receptors in exactly the same places as the pattern, and that the pattern will work with almost any hexagonal shape in nature, like a Bee Hive for example.

If you want to interpret it as the E8 structure, that is up to you. I can't qualify the E8 structure, because it is so complex mathematically, that the universe would have began with an intelligence greater than that of most humans today. Just doesn't make sense in a natural formation of everything.

I believe the G of freemasonry symbolises the complete flower of life. http://www.stonepages.com/forum/index.p ... ost&id=363

At its highest level the G(like all letters and numbers)is a symbol. If you cant see the image,look here...its been added to this article. http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_sage1.htm

John Galt wrote:Hello. I came across your discovery during the course of my research into this very matter. I must beg, no plead that you not continue looking into this ancient symbol. I myself once went too deep into its mysteries, andI feel bound by duty to dissuade others from discovering the same truths!

I first discovered this symbol doing research while assisting my history professor in Arabic and Islamic studies. We were exploring the so-called "Golden Age" of Islamic thought, wherein they mined texts of the ancient Greeks to bolster their fledgling religion. It was during these studies that we first head the name of one Abdul Alhazred. Our own library being insufficient to provide even a glimpse of this man and his obscure contributions, we had to requisition primary sources via ILL. We put out a call for materials, but only received one response, from a backwards little college somewhere in Massachusetts. While unwilling to send us the primary source directly, they graciously provided photographs of key pages that surveyed the Arab's work.

My hands shake to remember the sight of those pages. That image you link to was the primary feature of the first photograph. Unable to translate the text directly, I had no choice but to rely on my mentor's recitation of the lines. Before I proceed, let me tell you that no sane hand wrote these words. On appearance alone, the pagan letters scrawleed their way across the page, bleeding from one line the next, as if unseen forces whipped the author to write faster and faster. The images, while hastily drawn, showed a cruel clarity oft reserved for the paintings of asylum patients.

As the professor began to read the text, his face blanched white at the words as they described the image. The professor kept reading, mumbling to himself, quickly moving the photos under a magnifying lens to better read. This being a rather stormy March day, a large bolt of lightning struck nearby and shorted our power. The electricty was off but an instant, but the sudden shock of it threw my elderly friend into convulsions on the floor. I rushed to find assistance and get him to the infirmary, where they administered a strong sedative.

He didn't awaken for three days, when he violently started screaming in some unkown tongue. While unable to understand the exact nature of his words, the Hindi doctor said that his speech sounds vaguely arabic, but carried taint or corruption of the language with which he was not familiar. I was summoned immediately, having been the last person to see my friend before his accident. When I arrived, a practitioner of psychoanalysis was in the midst of calming the poor man down. After roughly an hour wait, I was permitted to speak with the patient.

The look on the man's face cannot be described. If it's possbile to age twenty years in a breath, my teacher had done so. He motioned me over next to the bed, so I could kneel beside him.

In a faint voice, the professor told me what he'd read in the passages. He said that he'd recognized the symbol, pulling down his shirt to reveal a Masonic tatoo. He'd only seen the symbol once, at his initiation, and then he merely glimpsed it in the elder's texts. The photographed pages had put the symbol into context. Previously, he'd believed it to be no more than a few hundred years old. Recent research had shown it to exist back thousands of years, originating in Afrikan cave paintings. What the arab text claimed, however, was nothing short of amazing.

I hesitate to write more, but must tell of my researches, to prevent you from making the same error.

The professor informed me that the pages he read indicated an older date for the symbol, much further removed than previously thought. The mad arab purported to find the symbol blasted from the earth in the midst of a powerful volcano. It was this that drove my professor to hysterics on realizing it, for our research spoke of this very act! Our own university had rocks from that infernal explosion, dating them back not thousands of years, or even tens of thousands to a time when humans first ventured forth from the trees.

No, the force of the blast launched particles from deep with the earth, from the time of the giant saurians before the freezing of the Ice Ages. To take the arab at his word, the symbol predates our so called civilization.

It may be tempting to doubt what I've said here, but please, do not research it more. What else my friend and mentor may have read is beyond me, for I've safely burned those cursed photographs. He is not yet fully recovered, and seems to sometimes slip into recitations of those foul lines.

On occasion, I've been able to pick out fragmentary bits of his ramblings. While I do not speak the tongue, it's evident that he metions too things that turn his eyes to pinholes when he remembers them. For he fears mention of the pagan amazonian god R'lyeh, and that feared devil of the darkest skinned polynesians, Yog-Sothoth.

I beg you, look no further into that symbol. In it lies pagan madness, and glimpses at realms we must not know.

This is as big a bag of shit as I have ever heard.

You are talking about the Mad Arab and the Necronomicon. In fact, you are probably just plagiarizing some commentary on it. Isn't the Internet wonderful.

If you are John Galt then I am Ayn Rand. And I command you to go to the highest tower in the land and jump out of the window.

Indeed, you should not fool around with Black Magick unless you know what you are doing, because, after all, you do have free will.

The complete flower of life is THEE template. If you overlay the complete flower with a sheet of tracing paper,you will be able to trace out any known written alphabet.

Oh? Is this including kanji? Katakana? Arabic? In all the right proportions? What about Korean kanji?

Don't be ridiculous.

ataxas wrote:Oh? Is this including kanji? Katakana? Arabic? In all the right proportions? What about Korean kanji?

Don't be ridiculous.

Yes,why dont you try it!? Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.

andymonk wrote:Unlike other mandala,the complete ancient flower of life has no design,measurement or straight lines.

This is the kanji for "impose", "assign" or "section". It requires straight lines.

How would I go about finding this character in the flower?