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Why would you ask a sex industry professional (that's better than "whore", right?) questions like that? Do you ask them of the local checkout chick?

Dan Rowden wrote:Why would you ask a sex industry professional (that's better than "whore", right?) questions like that? Do you ask them of the local checkout chick?

Better. How about Sex Goddess ?

Maybe by asking questions, or getting to know someone you're being intimate with, can put them on a human level instead of being a "thing" to fuck.
Maybe you guys don't want any emotional involvement when you just want to fuck and get it over with (that's the beauty of the sex professional)...
you are seriously deluded if you just think of her as a whore to fuck and pay .
You are playing fire with the Infinite in Intimacy.
Your intensions better be good.

Sex without love is(lust) inhumane...animalistic...barbaric...selfish..lustful...demonic....

In the act of lovemaking the couple embodies the dyadic wholeness of the Supreme. TANTRIC sexual union resonates with the very foundational energies of the Universe: it captures, magnifies and re-directs the essential Cosmic Power of Life. It is therefore not by chance that sexual intercourse brings the most intense emotional experience that the human being can have while in the flesh. Therefore TANTRA uses it predominantly to create that overwhelming unifying energy. The erotic impulse stirs up the KUNDALINI energy so that it can rise, through the subtle duct of power along the spine, to the highest center of power above the head. This process renders the adept immortal:

@ Kunga: She doesn't speak English, which is great bc women tend to show & be oblivious to their own superficiality when they can speak fluently, which makes real lasting intimacy with them impossible in the long run but when communication is subtle & difficult, that's when they shine.

pierdog wrote:@ Kunga: She doesn't speak English, which is great bc women tend to show & be oblivious to their own superficiality when they can speak fluently, which makes real lasting intimacy with them impossible in the long run but when communication is subtle & difficult, that's when they shine.

i was married to a man that hardly spoke english...it was romantic for a while...then as the years progressed i found myself extremely frustrated that i couldn't have an intelligent conversation with him...and always having to talk baby talk to him so he'd understand what i was trying to say...i wanted to learn his language and tried...but it was very difficult , as i am not good at learning other languages. It helps if you grow up bi-lingual.

Anyways...you seem to have a problem with women because of all your conceptions and expectations and feelings of superiority.

Unlikely, since those feelings of superiority are 6 months old.

Kunga wrote:

Dan Rowden wrote:Why would you ask a sex industry professional (that's better than "whore", right?) questions like that? Do you ask them of the local checkout chick?

Better. How about Sex Goddess ?

Er, how about not.

Maybe by asking questions, or getting to know someone you're being intimate with, can put them on a human level instead of being a "thing" to fuck.

Some guys do, but they are usually pathetically lonely - or just pathetic. Fucking a prostitute is not being "intimate". That's sort of the whole point. Frankly I would think getting so personal with someone you are really just having sex with is worse than just having sex with them - for both parties. Prostitutes are providing a sexual service, that's all. Any more than that and you start paying with people's emotions in a way that is unhealthy and bound to end in pain.

Maybe you guys don't want any emotional involvement when you just want to fuck and get it over with (that's the beauty of the sex professional)...

It's what they are for!! Jesus, Mary and Joseph! What is the point of emotional involvement with someone you can't have or be truly involved with? I can't think of anything more insane, personally. It's horrible to let a person get emotionally involved with you when you have no intention of reciprocation or don't really care where it will lead that person. That's why detached sex is what this ought be about.

you are seriously deluded if you just think of her as a whore to fuck and pay .

No, it's actually the opposite. You are seriously deluded if you think she is not.

You are playing fire with the Infinite in Intimacy.

There is no real intimacy. The rest of what you wrote is just schoolgirl nonsense. Personally, I could never do detached, non-emotional, causal sex. It's not who I am, but that's just me. I'm an aberration. I understand that many people can and do.

Dan Rowden wrote:Personally, I could never do detached, non-emotional, causal sex.

Or the other kind either, for that matter.

Or if you thought you could, you'd think of Jupta, and then you really couldn't.

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So Dan, considering that I have no intention or possibility of communicting with the whore and that it's a small sum of money to pay - SHOULD I SEE HER REGULARLY OR NOT?

That's entirely up to you. Is sex really that important to you? If so, why?

Dan Rowden wrote:Why would you ask a sex industry professional (that's better than "whore", right?) questions like that? Do you ask them of the local checkout chick?

Mensa maniac says: Sex industry professional is to good a title for these two-bit whores who made the decision to cheapen themselves. These whores are the reason I'm embarrassed to be a woman! Why should women who lie on their backs as low-life prostitutes and get paid for it, be entitled to have the word professional in their low-life title?

That's an insult to any professional!

Oh, there's a professional sex fucker.

She's a professional fucker alright, she'll fuck whoever, she don't give a fuck who she fucks, the marriage wrecker.

In Edmonton Alberta the low-life Johns are caught, publicably embarrassed, and has to pay a fine for involving himself with a low-life prostitute. Even the so-called classy whores are low-life. Where's their fucking class, up their stinky asses!

They further lower their status in life because they feel like low-class citizens stemming from their home environment, they probably don't think of the consequences of their poor decision, or perhaps they don't believe they are worthy enough to get a real worthy job. Many lack skills, so use their bodies to bring them money to support their crack habit. They're victims to themselves and those who'll use them for exactly what the whores want to be used for, all in the name of money.

Society hasn't done enough to abolish prostitution, instead they encourage it by not stepping down hard on it. Prostitutes are getting younger, their lives are doomed, many are found murdered.

If prostitution can never be abolished then there should be strict rules governing it world-wide! Such as no whores on the street begging for money for sex, because that's what they're doing. Suitable places where men will have to show their identity, and risk their wives finding out. If he can afford to jeopardize his marriage, he can afford to pay the consequences of automatic divorce. And the prostitutes shouldn't get off the hook easy if a divorce occurs because of her. She should be made to pay his wife for an x-amount of time.

Dan, the short answer is YES, weekly sex IS important enough to spend 7% of my disposable income on, at least for the time being. I'm thirty, attractive, endowed and under-appreciated by mainstream females and looking for NSA sex with shallow intimacy bc I'm tired of getting sexually comfortable, only to break up. It clears my head bc my quality of life depends on satisfied basic urges. SHOULD I SEE THE WHORE? Bless Soloway but I can't be an obese cyber-sage on welfare at my age. Later maybe.

Unless it was a genetic disorder, a sage is highly unlikely to be obese.

Re: wanting sex. On the "World of Women" reasoning show, Rich Zubaty said he needed to have a daily blow-job, because of how it perked up his self-esteem. In other words, he wanted women to notice him, to make him feel attractive, powerful, wanted. He wouldn't admit that he had a low self-esteem and needed praise. That was why he wanted sex: the PRAISE factor. It is probably partly owing to the pressure of American culture (it's massive emphasis on superficiality).

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pierdog wrote:Dan, the short answer is YES, weekly sex IS important enough to spend 7% of my disposable income on, at least for the time being. I'm thirty, attractive, endowed and under-appreciated by mainstream females and looking for NSA sex with shallow intimacy bc I'm tired of getting sexually comfortable, only to break up. It clears my head bc my quality of life depends on satisfied basic urges. SHOULD I SEE THE WHORE? Bless Soloway but I can't be an obese cyber-sage on welfare at my age. Later maybe.

Well, whatever, it's entirely your choice, but for the record, Kevin isn't obese; he's really rather slim.

Kunga,

You're not implying that only men have the ability to enjoy sex without being emotionally attached to their partner are you?

KEVIN IS SLIM? I guess the beard makes him look otherwise. In that case, Kevin's credibility with me just went up to 100% because I do agree with Kelly about sages & obesity. I'm gonna continue seeing the whore because prostitution was an acceptable part of every ascending civilization for the upper classes. So was homosexuality but that's where I gotta draw the line.

Nick Treklis wrote:Kunga,

You're not implying that only men have the ability to enjoy sex without being emotionally attached to their partner are you?

No..women do it too..but probebly fewer. Most women need/want intimacy or love. i can't belive how naieve i am tho. it really sickens me how life is, and how there arose the need for prostitutes. i think they should be respected for what they do (if they are a mature woman knowing and enjoying fully what they do.) Children being used as prostitutes makes me sick...and any man that can use a child for sex should be shot dead.

the whole thing sickens me.
i gotta be in love to enjoy sex
or at least be crazy about him
i have sex all the time with someone that i don't love...i hate it (i pretend he's someone else, and have these fantacys in my head, where i'm somewhere else, with someone else.

(i've been in this relationship for 20 years, we have 2 wonderful kids together, but he cheated on me , and my love died and never came back. ) i'd love to leave him but i'm too old now and gained a lot of weight and figure no one would want me anyways. and besides...i could care less about sex. could care less about starting another sexual relationship with anyone. but i love to be in love...and miss that deeply.

Arguably, attached sex is like competitive sport with someone who can't control their aggression: you can never play a good game, because they're too emotionally wrought. But I'd argue that most female prostitutes are not professionals, nor are they good sports: they are not really happy to shake hands when it's over.

Louis Theroux had that problem when a female prostitute, whom he was interviewing, felt like he was looking down on her. She wanted to prove what a talented professional she was, so she gave him a massage. But it was completely obvious that she was manipulating him emotionally to desire her: her own self-esteem was very much involved. It wasn't professional: she couldn't detach her own feelings. I'd say most prostitutes are like that: they're not competing to be the most skillful sex artists, but they want to be desired. Very flakey.

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Kunga wrote:Children being used as prostitutes makes me sick...and any man that can use a child for sex should be shot dead.

I don't know why you keep bringing up the topic of children being forced into prostitution. Nobody was advocating it in any way as far as I can tell.

Kunga wrote:the whole thing sickens me.
i gotta be in love to enjoy sex
or at least be crazy about him

People are different.

Kunga wrote:i have sex all the time with someone that i don't love...i hate it (i pretend he's someone else, and have these fantacys in my head, where i'm somewhere else, with someone else.

It's probably these personal issues that are causing you to get so upset by this topic. Maybe you should seek help on how to deal with these issues more effectively instead of letting them fester.

pierdog wrote:KEVIN IS SLIM? I guess the beard makes him look otherwise. In that case, Kevin's credibility with me just went up to 100% because I do agree with Kelly about sages & obesity. I'm gonna continue seeing the whore because prostitution was an acceptable part of every ascending civilization for the upper classes. So was homosexuality but that's where I gotta draw the line.

What about a female replicant (e.g. Daryl Hannah in Bladerunner)?

What if the prostitute was very similar to yourself in appearance, intellect, wit, psychology, etc? Would you find that attractive or repulsive?

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In that case, Kevin's credibility with me just went up to 100% because I do agree with Kelly about sages & obesity.

What about a beer gut? Poor posture? Strong B.O.? Dandruff? Overpronating or underpronating? Fingernails 2 inches long? A hunchback? Very thick glasses? Hearing aids? Oh, what about drooling, stammering, and a high-pitched voice? ;)

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Nick Treklis wrote:I don't know why you keep bringing up the topic of children being forced into prostitution. Nobody was advocating it in any way as far as I can tell.

It's the subject of prostitution we're discussing...and children are also forced into this...by advocating prostitution and neglecting to realize the horrors of this industry and all it intails i would think a intelligent compassionate man would not involve himself in this behavior or advocate it.

Some of the women involved in this industry started as children. If you advocate prostitution, your contributing to it's karma.


Kunga wrote:
the whole thing sickens me.
i gotta be in love to enjoy sex
or at least be crazy about him

Nick Treklis wrote:People are different.

yes

Nick Treklis wrote:It's probably these personal issues that are causing you to get so upset by this topic. Maybe you should seek help on how to deal with these issues more effectively instead of letting them fester.

i know...i'm beyond wanting help...i don't care anymore...i don't see how getting help will help me anyways...if i left him it would just be another story with someone else...or be alone struggling to survive...worse things happen to people....sexual misconduct in Buddhism is why we are not happy in love...so somewhere in my past life and even this life, i made this karma for myself...and if i don't work out this karma , it will just keep repeating . Sexual misconduct is a big deal. You play, you pay.

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-pierdog-
...considering that I have no intention or possibility of communicating
with the whore and that it's a small sum of money to pay...
I'm gonna continue seeing the whore because prostitution was an acceptable
part of every ascending civilization for the upper classes.


Porn -- Watching Bruised, Drugged Prostitutes (see photo of Shelley Lubben)

-snips from article-
During the little satanic ritual that followed she hit rock bottom: 'I sold what was left of my heart,
mind and femininity to the porn industry and the woman and person in me died completely on set.'

There is nothing clean about porn; it is diseased prostitutes having sex with other diseased prostitutes.

It is incredible to realise that it has become the norm for young men to grow up watching videos of
trafficked women being abused for their amusement. It is legitimised by the silence of the media,
education system and religious groups, who rarely denounce it.

A porn habit can terribly pollute a man's image of women and sex. He will become cynical and believe
that any nice qualities a girl has mask her true essence; the whore he sees on screen.

Full article & photo >> http://www.henrymakow.com/the_porn_industry.html


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@ Tomas - your p.o.v uses one exceptional woman as an example for women in general. The ancients, philosophers & players have the same low opinion of women. Some women like porn bc they're naturally self-destructive, others use a more socially acceptable poison. @ Kelly - A woman can't match my qualities but a physical resemblance IS hot. Oh, and Socrates & Confucius were both quite hideous.

I'm not ugly, although I only shower once every two days and I don't consider myself 'of the upper classes', I just share the same values with ancient nobility.

You may not care but other readers might, judging by the feedback I've gotten in this thread.