GENIUS FORUMS

Read this quote and post a mark, out of ten, that you would assess it's author for his understanding of reality, and secondly, again out of 10, the degree of value of the potential practical usefulness of this method as a way to ascertain what enlightenment might be.

The game part is that I don't wish to state who the author is, until people have responded…..and don’t spoil the/my fun by searching for it on the web? (it obviously is not mine)

"In recognising presence awareness, there is no 'thing' to see, just natural non-conceptual seeing, actually as it is without subject or object. See this and the realisation is immediate that what is labelled as awareness or consciousness or mind can never be formulated as either a subject or an object. Being empty of a subject or object, it is emptiness seeing (cognising emptiness). Emptiness can never be emptied of emptiness, nor can it be filled by emptiness. With that concept cancelled out, only the wordless thoughtless indescribable emptiness remains. Not a vacuum or a void, but a vivid self-shining, self-knowing, self-aware emptiness, like a clear sky full of light. See for yourself. No one or other can do it for you. Immediate simplicity. Continue to see that the seeing is continuous. Any doubt, question, or argument, and the conceptual seeker has appeared again. See that and non-conceptual emptiness remains undisturbed".

10 - whoever said it did describe presence awareness very well.

0, and 0.

As suspected my little game attracted little interest, what a dry lot we are.

Well it was one of Sailor Bob's.

I was looking for something in my links and recalled being amused by this Guru Ratings site. Noticed Sailor Bob was an Aussie so decided to take a look.

He's just another Guru type, but I'm afraid this sort of stuff always appeals to me, at least for for short time. In this case until I listened to the MP3 on the site. It's like finding a box of trinkets - some of pieces you like some you don't.

I think he says a lot of worthy things to be honest, but I'm unlikely to review what I thought was flawed when reading it. It appeals to me as I'm still looking to feel the difference between a knowledge of reality and enlightenment, by finding the altered state of just being in the now. Mind you I never actually attempt to do anything about what I read.

I don't think there's enough material on the site to judge the guy, but I think the amount of material on his site is probably an indication of how much wisdom he has.