I feel like I have Evolved... Vote CRAZY or SANE
- Pincho Paxton
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I feel like I have Evolved... Vote CRAZY or SANE
I know that people on here take my posts with a pinch of salt. I have to constantly check if I have gone crazy now that I have thrown away the standard belief system of science, and mathematics. But since I changed my view of life on Earth into a vision of the Aether, and how it controls the universe, I feel that I am becoming a voice for the aether itself. It is a very strange feeling. Seems that I no longer need to sleep very much either. I have slept about 20 hours in two months. I have started to understand things that were beyond my capacity. Maybe I am suffering from burnout? Not sure, but I would really like to get my brain examined by one of those magnetic resonance imaging devices.
I feel different, but I feel more than just sane, I feel like I am the only sane person, because I have found the truth of the universe, and there is no more Witchcraft/Voodoo/Magic left in me. I have broken free of the restraints of Big Bang, Dark Matter, Religion, Mathematics, Spooky Physics, Paradox, and general illusion.
Vote for me if you like....
CRAZY
or
SANE
and then make your point clear.
I feel different, but I feel more than just sane, I feel like I am the only sane person, because I have found the truth of the universe, and there is no more Witchcraft/Voodoo/Magic left in me. I have broken free of the restraints of Big Bang, Dark Matter, Religion, Mathematics, Spooky Physics, Paradox, and general illusion.
Vote for me if you like....
CRAZY
or
SANE
and then make your point clear.
Re: I feel like I have Evolved... Vote CRAZY or SANE
Since you are sleeping less and have delusions of grandeur I would say that you have Bipolar Depression with the Manic state currently in action. My prescription would be to get it in control with medicines and later try to fully rein it in using meditation if possible.
Re: I feel like I have Evolved... Vote CRAZY or SANE
I can only say person is crazy when I know exactly what they are talking about, and know it to be false and the person to think genuinely that it is true.
By this definition 1/2 of the people I meet are crazy. People are goofy. =)
Honestly? I think you are a little autistic, and your posts are similar to my posts few years back when I was high, every day for about 3 months. Posts that were convoluted, logically fuzzy and yet had some imaginative ideas behind them.
You have gone too deep in to the right side of the brain, to be complete you need balance, but I have tried to tell you that before.
IMO you are not sane, but you are not crazy either afik, and this screen is not just white and black, if you know what I mean.
Get some sleep and try to use logic more, go play chess or someting.
By this definition 1/2 of the people I meet are crazy. People are goofy. =)
Honestly? I think you are a little autistic, and your posts are similar to my posts few years back when I was high, every day for about 3 months. Posts that were convoluted, logically fuzzy and yet had some imaginative ideas behind them.
You have gone too deep in to the right side of the brain, to be complete you need balance, but I have tried to tell you that before.
IMO you are not sane, but you are not crazy either afik, and this screen is not just white and black, if you know what I mean.
Get some sleep and try to use logic more, go play chess or someting.
It's just a ride.
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ZenMuadDib
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Re: I feel like I have Evolved... Vote CRAZY or SANE
And chess isn't black and white? I don't see how playing a game is going to help honestly. My definition of insanity is a state of mind or being that is on the edge of conventional ways of being. This could be bad or good. I do agree that balance is required though.hsandman wrote:I can only say person is crazy when I know exactly what they are talking about, and know it to be false and the person to think genuinely that it is true.
By this definition 1/2 of the people I meet are crazy. People are goofy. =)
Honestly? I think you are a little autistic, and your posts are similar to my posts few years back when I was high, every day for about 3 months. Posts that were convoluted, logically fuzzy and yet had some imaginative ideas behind them.
You have gone too deep in to the right side of the brain, to be complete you need balance, but I have tried to tell you that before.
IMO you are not sane, but you are not crazy either afik, and this screen is not just white and black, if you know what I mean.
Get some sleep and try to use logic more, go play chess or someting.
Re: I feel like I have Evolved... Vote CRAZY or SANE
Chess is not just "black and white" ;-)ZenMuadDib wrote:
And chess isn't black and white? I don't see how playing a game is going to help honestly. My definition of insanity is a state of mind or being that is on the edge of conventional ways of being. This could be bad or good. I do agree that balance is required though.
Chess helps you develop mental discipline, where you have to remember to take steps in logical manner, and you can’t just jump to conclusion of your strategy, without exercising control and patience and not playing the moves in between. It is a good game for right brainers, who use fuzzy logic to solve problems, to try and use strategy/logic to balance the abstract thought processes. Balance is symmetry. Symmetry is perfection.
Conventional way of being before was that most (if not almost all) people believed that Earth is flat = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_earth that Earth was the centre of the universe, that peoples thoughts originated in the heart and that humans had nothing to do with animals on this planet and had more to do with clay as a ancestor. That priests and kings are divine powers instituted by God on earth to do his bidding. That animals had no thoughts and feelings. Etc. etc. etc. If you believed all this you would have been judged as sane and if not, then the mental care professionals of that time would have prescribed you a healthy blood letting and public burning at the markets. A wholesome family attraction, that would have been deemed as sane and fun for the little ones.
If I told you today that matter in the universe is expanding with universal atomic expansion rate of (Xa = 7.7x10-7 /s2) i.e. every atom in the universe is spiraling out and expanding with growth speed of 0.00000077 per second, each second.
You would deem me insane, and yet, would you be right? Who knows.
It's just a ride.
Re: I feel like I have Evolved... Vote CRAZY or SANE
We know. You would be batshit-crazy.hsandman wrote:If I told you today that matter in the universe is expanding with universal atomic expansion rate of (Xa = 7.7x10-7 /s2) i.e. every atom in the universe is spiraling out and expanding with growth speed of 0.00000077 per second, each second.
You would deem me insane, and yet, would you be right? Who knows.
if you postulate that this expansion is happening without affecting light speed, then we could measure it very easily (since a typical atom has size on the order of picometers, i.e 10e-12 meters). That's because the universal length standard is defined in terms of light-second fractions. So we would test for this expansion, and find it not happening (not in the least because, if it were happening, atoms would be insanely huge by now).
On the other hand, if you claimed that lightspeed is affected by this expansion as well, so that no atomic size change can be detected in relationship to lightspeed, then your claim would be utterly meaningless, because, well, how are you supposed to define such expansion if the speed of light changes along with it?
So yeah, we would know that you are nuts. But we knew that already.
Forethought Venus Wednesday
Re: I feel like I have Evolved... Vote CRAZY or SANE
I do, so love when you and your voices talk to me..vicdan wrote:We know. You would be batshit-crazy.hsandman wrote:If I told you today that matter in the universe is expanding with universal atomic expansion rate of (Xa = 7.7x10-7 /s2) i.e. every atom in the universe is spiraling out and expanding with growth speed of 0.00000077 per second, each second.
You would deem me insane, and yet, would you be right? Who knows.
if you postulate that this expansion is happening without affecting light speed, then we could measure it very easily (since a typical atom has size on the order of picometers, i.e 10e-12 meters). That's because the universal length standard is defined in terms of light-second fractions. So we would test for this expansion, and find it not happening (not in the least because, if it were happening, atoms would be insanely huge by now).
On the other hand, if you claimed that lightspeed is affected by this expansion as well, so that no atomic size change can be detected in relationship to lightspeed, then your claim would be utterly meaningless, because, well, how are you supposed to define such expansion if the speed of light changes along with it?
So yeah, we would know that you are nuts. But we knew that already.
Look here voices.
"if it were happening, atoms would be insanely huge by now" <- LOL. How long is a piece of string? How huge is the picture any given moment in the fractal world? You seem to lack the understanding of the concept that is called "relativity".
You can mesure the effect the universal expansion rate has on the universe by abserving the effect that is called gravity, which is geometric effect and does not conform to your evaluation, by speed of light (as your concept of mechanics of light as reasoned out by Newton is faulty in the first place, ie light is not composed of waves and photons = both at the same time which is a paradox, a patch up work of QM.) or contradict the conservation of energy law, unlike the Newtonian gravity force, (which does).
The phenomenon of light can be explained by, considering that light, is clusters of expanding electrons ejected by the agitation and vibration of the atoms
Newton just described the effect of the gravity, this theory describes the cause, but you have to have imagination like Einstein, which I have noticed you seem to lack, so you are the stupid batshit crazy nuter antipode qtfbbqhaxomgstoopid!
Thanks for making me lough! =D
It's just a ride.
Re: I feel like I have Evolved... Vote CRAZY or SANE
You do realize that this does nothing to prop up your dumb atomic-expansion theory of gravity, right?..
I already outlined how it would relarte to relativity, idiot."if it were happening, atoms would be insanely huge by now" <- LOL. How long is a piece of string? How huge is the picture any given moment in the fractal world? You seem to lack the understanding of the concept that is called "relativity".
The trouble is that measuring expansion rate by gravity (and your expansion rate value was derived from Earth's free-fall acceleration of 9.8m/s^2) doesn't work. For example, you will get different expansion rates by computing them based on freefall accelerations of bodies with different density -- the number you get from crunching the freefall acceleration of Earth and of a neutron star will be wildly different.You can mesure the effect the universal expansion rate has on the universe by abserving the effect that is called gravity, which is geometric effect and does not conform to your evaluation, by speed of light (as your concept of mechanics of light as reasoned out by Newton is faulty in the first place, ie light is not composed of waves and photons = both at the same time which is a paradox, a patch up work of QM.) or contradict the conservation of energy law, unlike the Newtonian gravity force, (which does).
You are an ignorant moron.
Funnily enough, Einstein's imagination let him explain gravity in a very different way, and that way accurately predicted future observations, such as space curvature and time dilation. The atomic expansion theory of gravity can neither explain nor predict either one of those observed classes of phenomena.Newton just described the effect of the gravity, this theory describes the cause, but you have to have imagination like Einstein, which I have noticed you seem to lack, so you are the stupid batshit crazy nuter antipode qtfbbqhaxomgstoopid!
Don't hurt yourself doing that, whatever it is.Thanks for making me lough! =D
Forethought Venus Wednesday
Re: I feel like I have Evolved... Vote CRAZY or SANE
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-Hoyt-
Pincho Paxton - I know that people on here take my posts with a pinch of salt.
-tomas-
Only if you're posting in 10-15 different threads every day. it's called "information overload". And if you are reading every thread here... then you definitely need a break like Trevor Salyzyn is doing.
-Hoyt-
I have to constantly check if I have gone crazy now that I have thrown away the standard belief system of science, and mathematics.
-tomas-
Yeah, the mathematics gets old fast - especially when it ain't used for balancing your checkbook etc. Too much math, trig, calculus, logs, etc is just a mind-game after a while, waste your precious time (on this earth) pursuing the wind.......
-Hoyt-
But since I changed my view of life on Earth into a vision of the Aether, and how it controls the universe, I feel that I am becoming a voice for the aether itself.
-tomas-
Worldly Matters is good for the soul :-)
-Hoyt-
It is a very strange feeling.
-tomas-
Kinda like that first LSD trip?
-Hoyt-
Seems that I no longer need to sleep very much either.
-tomas-
When guys age, they need less sleep. Simple biology.
-Hoyt-
I have slept about 20 hours in two months.
-tomas-
I'm in the mid-50s and after 3-4 hours of sleeping i'm ready to start a new day. Of course, i've cut back on the coffee, tea etc.
By the way, you still seeing that two-timing girlfriend? Sounds like a loser if she's calling her Ex-Hubby...
Does she work for a living - or is she a freeloader?
-Hoyt-
I have started to understand things that were beyond my capacity.
-tomas-
It's the QRS Syndrome :-)
-Hoyt-
Maybe I am suffering from burnout?
-tomas-
If you're not hurting financially, take a break. 3-4 months and just "get to know yourself" - what do you -really- want to do with the rest of your life?
-Hoyt-
Not sure, but I would really like to get my brain examined by one of those magnetic resonance imaging devices.
-tomas-
Like i said, you got health insurance? use it - maybe you got a tumor or something going on. Prostate problems can do a real number on you before they are properly diagnosed. Get a second opinion etc. A third!
-Hoyt-
I feel different, but I feel more than just sane, I feel like I am the only sane person, because I have found the truth of the universe, and there is no more Witchcraft/Voodoo/Magic left in me.
-tomas-
Bingo! You are almost home.
-Hoyt-
I have broken free of the restraints of Big Bang, Dark Matter, Religion, Mathematics, Spooky Physics, Paradox, and general illusion.
-tomas-
Sure, i used to follow a lot more (4-5 tops) of the Genius threads but have found Worldly Matters is more my cup of tea. Now maybe 1-2 times a week i'll stop in there but the same bullshit artists trolling there sniffin' each others cracks. It's the same group of clowns arguing back and forth about the same thing blah bla bla. A conjunctive verb, past participle, ice-skating to grandmas house, Jews and Jesus etc.
-Hoyt-
Vote for me if you like.... CRAZY-or-SANE and then make your point clear.
-tomas-
My prescription? - Take some time off from work, get a medical checkup (avoid the pills the docs love pushing).
Take a hard look at your lifestyle and eliminate all the waste.
Girlfriend a real bitch? -- Lose Her Already!
Bad eating habits? -- Change your diet!
Give up margarine, vegetable oils, shrimp, crab, lobster, pork, potatoes (except baked), cooked carrots, anything containing soy, corn (and all those sorts of oils)
Cut back on the carbs, eat grass-fed beef - hamburger -don't drain off the beef fat, it is healthy! Broccoli, cabbage, chicken thighs, use white tuna (albacore), cheese.
Use olive oil, hemp oil, flax oil (sparingly), buy hemp bread, give up commercial milk , instead use raw milk.
Mix 3-parts water and one part cream... brings out the sweetness and minus all the sugar carbs to boot!
Give up the Cheerios, wheaties etc., easy on the white sugar, use a good quality honey.
A Tbsp honey and Tbsp vinegar in a glass of water.
Buy a Reverse-Osmosis water purifier ($160 bucks about) and install in your house/apt. Clean water in your body!
Fast one day a week. Drink about 1 quart for every 50 pounds of body weight.
Give up fast food, learn to cook at home... keep it simple.
Steam food (veggies and fish) when all possible.
Diet is about the greatest thing one can do to change your "photons" :-)
Dr. Mercola's website http://www.mercola.com is excellent!
And buy a good feather pillow. And sleep alone.
ps- lose the cartoonish avatar
pps- You sound sane enough.
Tomas (the tank)
Prince of Jerusalem
16 Degree
Scottish Rite Free Mason
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-Hoyt-
Pincho Paxton - I know that people on here take my posts with a pinch of salt.
-tomas-
Only if you're posting in 10-15 different threads every day. it's called "information overload". And if you are reading every thread here... then you definitely need a break like Trevor Salyzyn is doing.
-Hoyt-
I have to constantly check if I have gone crazy now that I have thrown away the standard belief system of science, and mathematics.
-tomas-
Yeah, the mathematics gets old fast - especially when it ain't used for balancing your checkbook etc. Too much math, trig, calculus, logs, etc is just a mind-game after a while, waste your precious time (on this earth) pursuing the wind.......
-Hoyt-
But since I changed my view of life on Earth into a vision of the Aether, and how it controls the universe, I feel that I am becoming a voice for the aether itself.
-tomas-
Worldly Matters is good for the soul :-)
-Hoyt-
It is a very strange feeling.
-tomas-
Kinda like that first LSD trip?
-Hoyt-
Seems that I no longer need to sleep very much either.
-tomas-
When guys age, they need less sleep. Simple biology.
-Hoyt-
I have slept about 20 hours in two months.
-tomas-
I'm in the mid-50s and after 3-4 hours of sleeping i'm ready to start a new day. Of course, i've cut back on the coffee, tea etc.
By the way, you still seeing that two-timing girlfriend? Sounds like a loser if she's calling her Ex-Hubby...
Does she work for a living - or is she a freeloader?
-Hoyt-
I have started to understand things that were beyond my capacity.
-tomas-
It's the QRS Syndrome :-)
-Hoyt-
Maybe I am suffering from burnout?
-tomas-
If you're not hurting financially, take a break. 3-4 months and just "get to know yourself" - what do you -really- want to do with the rest of your life?
-Hoyt-
Not sure, but I would really like to get my brain examined by one of those magnetic resonance imaging devices.
-tomas-
Like i said, you got health insurance? use it - maybe you got a tumor or something going on. Prostate problems can do a real number on you before they are properly diagnosed. Get a second opinion etc. A third!
-Hoyt-
I feel different, but I feel more than just sane, I feel like I am the only sane person, because I have found the truth of the universe, and there is no more Witchcraft/Voodoo/Magic left in me.
-tomas-
Bingo! You are almost home.
-Hoyt-
I have broken free of the restraints of Big Bang, Dark Matter, Religion, Mathematics, Spooky Physics, Paradox, and general illusion.
-tomas-
Sure, i used to follow a lot more (4-5 tops) of the Genius threads but have found Worldly Matters is more my cup of tea. Now maybe 1-2 times a week i'll stop in there but the same bullshit artists trolling there sniffin' each others cracks. It's the same group of clowns arguing back and forth about the same thing blah bla bla. A conjunctive verb, past participle, ice-skating to grandmas house, Jews and Jesus etc.
-Hoyt-
Vote for me if you like.... CRAZY-or-SANE and then make your point clear.
-tomas-
My prescription? - Take some time off from work, get a medical checkup (avoid the pills the docs love pushing).
Take a hard look at your lifestyle and eliminate all the waste.
Girlfriend a real bitch? -- Lose Her Already!
Bad eating habits? -- Change your diet!
Give up margarine, vegetable oils, shrimp, crab, lobster, pork, potatoes (except baked), cooked carrots, anything containing soy, corn (and all those sorts of oils)
Cut back on the carbs, eat grass-fed beef - hamburger -don't drain off the beef fat, it is healthy! Broccoli, cabbage, chicken thighs, use white tuna (albacore), cheese.
Use olive oil, hemp oil, flax oil (sparingly), buy hemp bread, give up commercial milk , instead use raw milk.
Mix 3-parts water and one part cream... brings out the sweetness and minus all the sugar carbs to boot!
Give up the Cheerios, wheaties etc., easy on the white sugar, use a good quality honey.
A Tbsp honey and Tbsp vinegar in a glass of water.
Buy a Reverse-Osmosis water purifier ($160 bucks about) and install in your house/apt. Clean water in your body!
Fast one day a week. Drink about 1 quart for every 50 pounds of body weight.
Give up fast food, learn to cook at home... keep it simple.
Steam food (veggies and fish) when all possible.
Diet is about the greatest thing one can do to change your "photons" :-)
Dr. Mercola's website http://www.mercola.com is excellent!
And buy a good feather pillow. And sleep alone.
ps- lose the cartoonish avatar
pps- You sound sane enough.
Tomas (the tank)
Prince of Jerusalem
16 Degree
Scottish Rite Free Mason
.
Re: I feel like I have Evolved... Vote CRAZY or SANE
Pincho,
I vote crazy. You are sleep deprived, and sleep deprivation causes temporary insanity on me. Never underestimate the value of a good night of sleep; imo, the more, the better.
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I vote crazy. You are sleep deprived, and sleep deprivation causes temporary insanity on me. Never underestimate the value of a good night of sleep; imo, the more, the better.
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PhysicsDude
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- Joined: Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:45 pm
Re: I feel like I have Evolved... Vote CRAZY or SANE
Wrong, moron. You really have no clue here, do you?vicdan wrote:The trouble is that measuring expansion rate by gravity (and your expansion rate value was derived from Earth's free-fall acceleration of 9.8m/s^2) doesn't work. For example, you will get different expansion rates by computing them based on freefall accelerations of bodies with different density -- the number you get from crunching the freefall acceleration of Earth and of a neutron star will be wildly different.
Re: I feel like I have Evolved... Vote CRAZY or SANE
The whole idea that density has to do with gravity is absolutely ridiculous. Are you saying that Lead ball the same size as one made out of wood hits the ground on the planet without atmosphere faster than wood one?
I say if you drop two balls of different densities and different sizes one will "fall" down to ground (i.e. The big ball of dirt in space) faster based not on density, but only on size. Say you take one ball made out of lead that is 10 cm in diameter and you take a ball made out of cork that is 3000 cm in diameter. The lead ball will be more denser and heavier, than the ball made out of cork, and on Earth it (lead ball) will fall quicker than the cork ball, ie. it will have the advantage because of the air resistance, but in a vacum and under similar conditions the ball of cork will reach the ground (the ball we call planet) faster than the smaller ball of lead,with speed difference, which can be calculated using the 7.7X10-7 expansion rate. And yes, the "expansion rate value was derived from Earth's free-fall acceleration of 9.8m/s^2" = because it is Universal, Earth being part of the universe and all that.
Edit:Calculation of universal atomic expansion rate.
Onece the standart acceleration due to gravity on Earth of 9.8 m/s^2 is seen to result from the radial expansion of the planet, the amount of expansion of the planet in one second can be calculated. The equation for distance traveled is:
d=1/2at^2
where a is the constant acceleration and t is the lenght of time the acceleration is applied.
This gives the radial expansion amount of the Earth after 1 second to be : d= 1/2 (9.8) (1)^2 = 4.9 meters.
Dividing this one second expansion amoutn of the Earth by its radius gives universal atomic expansion rate:
Xa = 4.9/Re
where Re is the radius of the Earth (6 371 000 meters)
and Xa is the universal atomic expansion rate to be calculated.
As for the neutron stars and black holes and event horisons... bleh...
Look what is happening with the black hole theory, that the singularity is so heavy that it does not let even light escape after it has passed the event horison.
"A black hole is a region of space in which the gravitational field is so powerful that nothing can escape after having fallen past the event horizon. The name comes from the fact that even electromagnetic radiation (e.g. light) is unable to escape, rendering the interior invisible."(Source)
Yet, QM, Predict:
"Because Hawking radiation allows black holes to lose mass, black holes which lose more matter than they gain through other means are expected to evaporate, shrink, and ultimately vanish. Smaller 'micro' black holes are currently predicted by theory to be larger net emitters of radiation than larger black holes, and to shrink and evaporate faster." (Source)
It continues:
"Classically, the gravitation is so powerful that nothing, not even radiation or light, can escape from the black hole. It is yet unknown how gravity can be incorporated into quantum mechanics, but nevertheless far from the black hole the gravitational effects can be weak enough that calculations can be reliably performed in the framework of quantum field theory in curved spacetime. Hawking showed that quantum effects allow black holes to emit exact black body radiation, which is the average thermal radiation emitted by an idealized thermal source known as a black body. The radiation is as if it is emitted by a black body of temperature which is related (inverse proportional) to the black hole's mass.Physical insight on the process may be gained by imagining that particle-antiparticle radiation is emitted from just beyond the event horizon. This radiation does not come directly from the black hole itself, but rather is a result of virtual particles being "boosted" by the black hole's gravitation into becoming real particles."
Did you get this? "This radiation does not come directly from the black hole itself, but rather is a result of virtual particles being "boosted" by the black hole's gravitation into becoming real particles."
A violation of the Law of conservation of energy!
It is all very nice to be the critic and doubter of ideas that are out of step with the group think, but in the same fashion I can ask you.. Why is there no material found that has even slightest shielding effect of this mysterious gravitational force, that ignores the law of conservation of energy, law that nothing can transmit information faster than light etc? What is the best answer? The exact opposite of that. QM.. with spooky faster than light information transmissions, etc... they are just observations and models of the effects and do not explain the cause of these effects at all.
The reality is that rain is not falling from the clouds. to meet the surface of the earth.. The Earth surface being so much larger and thus expanding with so much more speed is actually the one meeting the raindrops left behind by floating clouds (clouds = i.e. particles of water that are too small to form pools of water in space, that have critical size as to lose resistance to the density of air)
It is the illusion you can observe while being on the train and looking out the window and seeing the other train move.. for a moment you are confused on who is actually in motion, you or the other train. Same deal here. Or..
Take Einsteins space elevator idea. You are floating in the space weightless, now put a elevator/box around you and accelerate the box... what you get? the floor of the elevator will raise until it is pushing against your feet, thus creating the effect inside that you are "stuck" to the floor for no apparent reason i.e. the magic of gravity.
Now extend that experiment to: You are floating in space, add elevator around you, place all this on huge ball/balloon and inflate the balloon with constant acceleration ^2 = the elevator is rising, and you are sticking to the floor of the elevator.
Exit the elevator.. and you are still stuck to the big floating ball next to the elevator that is also stuck to the ground!@
This is the reason why there is not "gravity shielding" material, because gravity is not a "Force" or energy. Gravity is the abservable effect on matter due to acceleration. ie. Gravity is the observable phenomenon of Geometric Universe.
This post probably will be dismissed by you vic out of hand, and this is why you fail.
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ps. Dumcoff.
I say if you drop two balls of different densities and different sizes one will "fall" down to ground (i.e. The big ball of dirt in space) faster based not on density, but only on size. Say you take one ball made out of lead that is 10 cm in diameter and you take a ball made out of cork that is 3000 cm in diameter. The lead ball will be more denser and heavier, than the ball made out of cork, and on Earth it (lead ball) will fall quicker than the cork ball, ie. it will have the advantage because of the air resistance, but in a vacum and under similar conditions the ball of cork will reach the ground (the ball we call planet) faster than the smaller ball of lead,with speed difference, which can be calculated using the 7.7X10-7 expansion rate. And yes, the "expansion rate value was derived from Earth's free-fall acceleration of 9.8m/s^2" = because it is Universal, Earth being part of the universe and all that.
Edit:Calculation of universal atomic expansion rate.
Onece the standart acceleration due to gravity on Earth of 9.8 m/s^2 is seen to result from the radial expansion of the planet, the amount of expansion of the planet in one second can be calculated. The equation for distance traveled is:
d=1/2at^2
where a is the constant acceleration and t is the lenght of time the acceleration is applied.
This gives the radial expansion amount of the Earth after 1 second to be : d= 1/2 (9.8) (1)^2 = 4.9 meters.
Dividing this one second expansion amoutn of the Earth by its radius gives universal atomic expansion rate:
Xa = 4.9/Re
where Re is the radius of the Earth (6 371 000 meters)
and Xa is the universal atomic expansion rate to be calculated.
As for the neutron stars and black holes and event horisons... bleh...
Look what is happening with the black hole theory, that the singularity is so heavy that it does not let even light escape after it has passed the event horison.
"A black hole is a region of space in which the gravitational field is so powerful that nothing can escape after having fallen past the event horizon. The name comes from the fact that even electromagnetic radiation (e.g. light) is unable to escape, rendering the interior invisible."(Source)
Yet, QM, Predict:
"Because Hawking radiation allows black holes to lose mass, black holes which lose more matter than they gain through other means are expected to evaporate, shrink, and ultimately vanish. Smaller 'micro' black holes are currently predicted by theory to be larger net emitters of radiation than larger black holes, and to shrink and evaporate faster." (Source)
It continues:
"Classically, the gravitation is so powerful that nothing, not even radiation or light, can escape from the black hole. It is yet unknown how gravity can be incorporated into quantum mechanics, but nevertheless far from the black hole the gravitational effects can be weak enough that calculations can be reliably performed in the framework of quantum field theory in curved spacetime. Hawking showed that quantum effects allow black holes to emit exact black body radiation, which is the average thermal radiation emitted by an idealized thermal source known as a black body. The radiation is as if it is emitted by a black body of temperature which is related (inverse proportional) to the black hole's mass.Physical insight on the process may be gained by imagining that particle-antiparticle radiation is emitted from just beyond the event horizon. This radiation does not come directly from the black hole itself, but rather is a result of virtual particles being "boosted" by the black hole's gravitation into becoming real particles."
Did you get this? "This radiation does not come directly from the black hole itself, but rather is a result of virtual particles being "boosted" by the black hole's gravitation into becoming real particles."
A violation of the Law of conservation of energy!
It is all very nice to be the critic and doubter of ideas that are out of step with the group think, but in the same fashion I can ask you.. Why is there no material found that has even slightest shielding effect of this mysterious gravitational force, that ignores the law of conservation of energy, law that nothing can transmit information faster than light etc? What is the best answer? The exact opposite of that. QM.. with spooky faster than light information transmissions, etc... they are just observations and models of the effects and do not explain the cause of these effects at all.
The reality is that rain is not falling from the clouds. to meet the surface of the earth.. The Earth surface being so much larger and thus expanding with so much more speed is actually the one meeting the raindrops left behind by floating clouds (clouds = i.e. particles of water that are too small to form pools of water in space, that have critical size as to lose resistance to the density of air)
It is the illusion you can observe while being on the train and looking out the window and seeing the other train move.. for a moment you are confused on who is actually in motion, you or the other train. Same deal here. Or..
Take Einsteins space elevator idea. You are floating in the space weightless, now put a elevator/box around you and accelerate the box... what you get? the floor of the elevator will raise until it is pushing against your feet, thus creating the effect inside that you are "stuck" to the floor for no apparent reason i.e. the magic of gravity.
Now extend that experiment to: You are floating in space, add elevator around you, place all this on huge ball/balloon and inflate the balloon with constant acceleration ^2 = the elevator is rising, and you are sticking to the floor of the elevator.
Exit the elevator.. and you are still stuck to the big floating ball next to the elevator that is also stuck to the ground!@
This is the reason why there is not "gravity shielding" material, because gravity is not a "Force" or energy. Gravity is the abservable effect on matter due to acceleration. ie. Gravity is the observable phenomenon of Geometric Universe.
This post probably will be dismissed by you vic out of hand, and this is why you fail.
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ps. Dumcoff.
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Got 9 hrs sleep last night. Seeing the effects of my lack of sleep in my post, it's not thought out 100%. Needs some form of rectifying...
I haven't completely got rid of mathematics. That was just lazy typing. I should have said that I don't need mathematical proof of the aether, because I can't see how the universe would work without it.
There are no drugs in my system apart from tea, and I smoke about 3 cigarettes a day.
Aether = sentience = brain.. so in this case we all use the aether to form ourselves.
But It is that Eureka feeling that I keep getting, I'm not sure if it's me, seems to come from nowhere.
Like the pet post that I made. I didn't know what I was getting at until the next day. I was thinking like two different people.
P1/ "Why am I making a post about pets when I know that they are a companion?"
P1/ "I feel that there is some value to understanding this thread, but what?"
P2/ "Just make the post."
P1/ "I will just make the thread, and maybe the responses will clear up my confusion."
Then I woke up the next morning..
P2/ "Now compare pets with photons."
P1/ "Both work for man?"
P2/ "Pets are a manmade controlled object. Photons have no use without life."
P1/ "But photons are a result of energy transfer, does that require a use?"
P1/ "Or are photons a sentient made controlled object?"
P2/ "The whole universe is a dessert without the Earth."
P1/ "So the whole universe is a pet. A sentiently made set of tools for sight, hearing, touch, taste, food, and home. All made by a sentient Aether. Now I need to check if I am going crazy."
P1/ "And I don't know how I got to this understanding."
I found this thought process to be odd. Odd that I made a post with just some vague notion that it was going to lead somewhere. Then get an answer from nowhere the next day. Eureka???
I need a composite of more oppinions yet.
I haven't completely got rid of mathematics. That was just lazy typing. I should have said that I don't need mathematical proof of the aether, because I can't see how the universe would work without it.
There are no drugs in my system apart from tea, and I smoke about 3 cigarettes a day.
Sounds odd, but has multiple variations. But are all my own oppinion..I feel that I am becoming a voice for the aether itself.
Aether = sentience = brain.. so in this case we all use the aether to form ourselves.
But It is that Eureka feeling that I keep getting, I'm not sure if it's me, seems to come from nowhere.
Like the pet post that I made. I didn't know what I was getting at until the next day. I was thinking like two different people.
P1/ "Why am I making a post about pets when I know that they are a companion?"
P1/ "I feel that there is some value to understanding this thread, but what?"
P2/ "Just make the post."
P1/ "I will just make the thread, and maybe the responses will clear up my confusion."
Then I woke up the next morning..
P2/ "Now compare pets with photons."
P1/ "Both work for man?"
P2/ "Pets are a manmade controlled object. Photons have no use without life."
P1/ "But photons are a result of energy transfer, does that require a use?"
P1/ "Or are photons a sentient made controlled object?"
P2/ "The whole universe is a dessert without the Earth."
P1/ "So the whole universe is a pet. A sentiently made set of tools for sight, hearing, touch, taste, food, and home. All made by a sentient Aether. Now I need to check if I am going crazy."
P1/ "And I don't know how I got to this understanding."
I found this thought process to be odd. Odd that I made a post with just some vague notion that it was going to lead somewhere. Then get an answer from nowhere the next day. Eureka???
I need a composite of more oppinions yet.
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Re: I feel like I have Evolved... Vote CRAZY or SANE
Pincho: It is just how you thinking works, abstractly ie. fuzzy logic.
You need balance to be sane and be able to check your conclusions (to which you arrive using shortcuts) against rigorous logic, that is why, while vic is annoying, he does serve a purpose, besides making me laugh. :-)
You need balance to be sane and be able to check your conclusions (to which you arrive using shortcuts) against rigorous logic, that is why, while vic is annoying, he does serve a purpose, besides making me laugh. :-)
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Vic checks his conclusions with the voices of the many. Science, and proof of science.. mathematics.hsandman wrote:Pincho: It is just how you thinking works, abstractly ie. fuzzy logic.
You need balance to be sane and be able to check your conclusions (to which you arrive using shortcuts) against rigorous logic, that is why, while vic is annoying, he does serve a purpose, besides making me laugh. :-)
Voices of the many has proved to be wrong almost every time in the past...
Burn The Witches..
Doctor's Oppinions
The World Is Flat
And voices of the many doesn't even make sense any more in science...
Waves through a void
Wave/Particle Duality of Photons due to a misunderstanding of two slit experiments.
Wave/Particle duality of Electrons due to a misunderstanding of the 2/8 formation pattern.
Big Bang from nothing
Spooky Action
Dark Matter from nothing more than not knowing why gravity doesn't work anymore
I would say that science is closer to CRAZY than I am. It makes things up almost immediately to fix it's problems. It doesn't even need to explain why these events occur. Science allows pure imagination, and it allows it, because the mathematics often SUGGESTS it. But a SUGGESTION has alternatives. Rigorously proving a falsity means to varify your insanity with mathematics, and that is a powerful insanity. When you are faced with this many paradox that science is producing, it is time to throw it in the bin, and start again..
So rigorously burning a witch with a hot poker to make sure that she is a witch only serves a purpose if the woman is a witch.
Which of Vicdans witches are real witches?
He is good for looking up stuff, and finding out where this particular field of science has gone wrong to get a result that contradicts my result. Like the Aether flow.
Aether is expected to produce a wind from the Earth Orbiting the sun. Aether moving particles in a flow like water in a whirlpool. But like I have said many times before, the Aether builds things BEFORE our timeline begins. So the wind would have passed already, by the time our equipment switched back on again. Things are spaced apart anyway, and don't totally move in an analoge fashion. The smallest particle cannot step half of its distance. Only its whole distance, it is a matter of propogation, and you cannot propogate something half of the smallest propogator. And the Aether, being the smallest propogator of them all, cannot move at all. The compaction of moving matter does suggest that there is some delay between the Aether however. And also the two Plane experiment, which suggests that the aether has some form of variation from speed, I haven't quite grasped. It's probably a variation in aether energy..
Re: I feel like I have Evolved... Vote CRAZY or SANE
oh, hi, sockpuppet. Go crawl under the bridge.PhysicsDude wrote:Wrong, moron. You really have no clue here, do you?
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Actually yes, it will, though the difference for a lead ball will be so minute as to be imperceptible; that's because the force of gravity depends on the masses of both objects. However, an earth-sized sphere made of wood will have a much weaker gravity pull than an earth-sized sphere made of lead. That's because gravity has to do with mass, and the mass of a body is its density times its volume.hsandman wrote:The whole idea that density has to do with gravity is absolutely ridiculous. Are you saying that Lead ball the same size as one made out of wood hits the ground on the planet without atmosphere faster than wood one?
Uh-huh... check out the law of gravity, moron. Notice that size is not relevant -- for most purposes, the bodies which are in gravitational interaction are assumed to have no size, i.e. be mathematical points.I say if you drop two balls of different densities and different sizes one will "fall" down to ground (i.e. The big ball of dirt in space) faster based not on density, but only on size.
Gravity depends on mass, not size. if the atomic expansion model of gravity were accurate, freefall acceleration would depend on size and atomic composition, not mass.
You do know that the freefall acceleration on other planets is different from that on Earth, right?.. and that it's not proportionate to size but to mass (and inversely proportional to square of distance).And yes, the "expansion rate value was derived from Earth's free-fall acceleration of 9.8m/s^2" = because it is Universal, Earth being part of the universe and all that.
Mars has a different density and different size than Earth. If you compute the 'atomic expansion' rate from Mars' size, you will get a different number than the one you get from Earth. Contrawise, the freefall acceleration on Mars and Moon is accurately predicted by the newtonian law of gravity, which relies on mass and distance, not size.
I didn't say one thing about black holes, moron. I spoke of neutron stars -- which are known to exist, and which have been observed.Look what is happening with the black hole theory, that the singularity is so heavy that it does not let even light escape after it has passed the event horison.
The rest of your post was random babbling, on par with your idiocy about magnets being infinite sources of energy.
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Re: I feel like I have Evolved... Vote CRAZY or SANE
Victor,
Why pick on sandman's crazy physics, and give Pincho a free pass?
Just curious.
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Why pick on sandman's crazy physics, and give Pincho a free pass?
Just curious.
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Re: I feel like I have Evolved... Vote CRAZY or SANE
Because Pincho it completely, totally off his rocker. He is like that crazy guy on the street corner babbling about Illuminati probing his ass and reading his mind. There's just nothing to be said to him.
hsandman at least projects some appearance of sanity -- he is just really, really scientifically illiterate AFAICT.
hsandman at least projects some appearance of sanity -- he is just really, really scientifically illiterate AFAICT.
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Re: I feel like I have Evolved... Vote CRAZY or SANE
Hahaha. Guess again moron. You know me but not from here.vicdan wrote:oh, hi, sockpuppet. Go crawl under the bridge.
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That's still an answer to my thread if you had posted it in the first place, without any goading.vicdan wrote:Because Pincho it completely, totally off his rocker. He is like that crazy guy on the street corner babbling about Illuminati probing his ass and reading his mind. There's just nothing to be said to him.
hsandman at least projects some appearance of sanity -- he is just really, really scientifically illiterate AFAICT.
PARADOX
You didn't answer with an answer.
Re: I feel like I have Evolved... Vote CRAZY or SANE
I wasn't talking to you.
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The oppinion was made on open ground however. I only wanted the oppinion. You can't whisper in someone's ear on a forum. Well, maybe a Mod can, or use an IM.vicdan wrote:I wasn't talking to you.
Re: I feel like I have Evolved... Vote CRAZY or SANE
Take a break from your normal self, Pincho. Least you burnout.
Do something crazy like counting stars.
Do something crazy like counting stars.
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