Why is concealed carry illegal in universities in America?

sschaula · Post by **sschaula** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 3:18 pm

BTW, my point is for you to stop having such an aversion to being considered insane...or to be PC..."mentally ill". You and Katy both. That's why I said "who cares". I wanted you to be at peace with it. It's not that I didn't care how you felt.

Elizabeth Isabelle · Post by **Elizabeth Isabelle** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 3:34 pm

So during the course of discussing whether or not allowing concealed weapons would improve safety on campus, you suddenly decided that Katy and I were insane and had an aversion to being labeled as such, and that you should pursue this line of browbeating, trying to convince us that we are insane?

What I have an aversion to is a lack of truth - which is what you were spouting when you were stating that everyone who has to take psychiatric medication is insane. I have already stated on another thread that I am a disorder. What exactly do you want me to accept? Falsehood? Other people's misinformation? Name-calling?
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sschaula · Post by **sschaula** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 3:52 pm

Chill out. Don't waste my time. Go back and reread where the conversation turned to this.

HUNTEDvsINVIS · Post by **HUNTEDvsINVIS** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 6:42 pm

A) If the insane take pills they can not be insane

B) Euthenasia needs to be legalised

Unidian · Post by **Unidian** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:48 pm

I have a feeling I'm going to be sorry I asked (as I almost always am), but euthanasia for whom?

Elizabeth Isabelle · Post by **Elizabeth Isabelle** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:13 am

sschaula wrote:Don't waste my time.

Your short temper (which you have an aversion to being reminded of) is showing.

sschaula wrote:BTW, my point is for you to stop having such an aversion to being considered insane...or to be PC..."mentally ill". You and Katy both. That's why I said "who cares". I wanted you to be at peace with it. It's not that I didn't care how you felt.

I want more for you than just you being at peace with being called an asshole.

Nat, I suspect that both of Hunted's statements were tongue-in-cheek, as mere pill taking does not guarantee the relief of insanity.
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Unidian · Post by **Unidian** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 5:30 am

I think you should lay off Scott about the "bad temper" business. it's just blatant button-pushing, in my view. It definitely isn't justified by his recent behavior, which has been remarkably level-headed despite there having been a good bit of verbal abuse and baiting directed at him.

Elizabeth Isabelle · Post by **Elizabeth Isabelle** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:26 am

Scott has improved, but I believe (due to various attempts without bringing out the bad temper example) that Scott is not able to see what effect his words really have. Further example is that even after philo explained to him that mental illness is not the same as insanity, Scott went right back to calling mental illness the politically correct term for insanity - which if anything, is an increased insult. He still doesn't get it. The truth is the most important thing here.

Funny how you view that as baiting and verbal abuse rather than Scott's insistence on incorrect terminology.
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sschaula · Post by **sschaula** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:18 am

I don't know the correct term for someone who takes psychiatric meds...what is it?

Elizabeth Isabelle · Post by **Elizabeth Isabelle** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:29 am

There isn't a one word term for it - they take psychiatric medication is as accurate as it gets.

A person in need of psyc meds who is on psyc meds and their condition is under control just has a condition - like a diabetic who is properly managing their diabetes has a condition. A diabetic who is managing his diabetes is not considered sick, although this person could become sick with their diabetes due to aggravating their condition or not managing it well enough. A condition could be depression, diabetes, schizophrenia, or pregnancy. Being human is a condition on its own, and doing such things as taking arsenic or not eating at all would cause sickness from not managing their human condition well enough. Similarly, one who does not have their psychiatric condition sufficiently under control would be considered mentally ill. The PC problem you seem concerned about is a combination of the prejudices against those with mental illness, and the lack of differentiation. Such as someone who is sick with a cold is not the same kind of sick as someone who is sick with hepatitis, there are different kinds of mental illness as well.
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sschaula · Post by **sschaula** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:34 am

Tomas · Post by **Tomas** » Sat May 19, 2007 3:38 am

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-mister scott queries-

sschaula wrote:I don't know the correct term for someone who takes psychiatric meds...what is it?

-tomas-
Guinea Pig...

Tomas (the tank)
VietNam veteran - 1971

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Elizabeth Isabelle · Post by **Elizabeth Isabelle** » Sat May 19, 2007 3:48 am

Tomas wrote:
sschaula wrote:I don't know the correct term for someone who takes psychiatric meds...what is it?
-tomas-
Guinea Pig...

Actually, I have to agree with you there to a significant extent. Psychiatry is the only "medical" profession that does not routinely look at the organ they are treating. Amen Clinics is pioneering more rational psychiatry through the use of SPECT imaging to actually see what is going on with the brain and using both nutrition and medicine when and if appropriate based on physical (objective) results rather than subjective reporting. Much of psychiatry is a shameful practice, and is in the stone age of development.
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