in response, of course, to the assertion that
"There is no such thing as group Genius."
This is how to create a social system which will amplify group intelligence such that
wether or not any individuals in the group are Geniuses, the group will achieve as a whole
the capacity to operate as a Genius.
Of course i do start from the place of politics here, but thats just because i'm employed to run
a politics board. The same principles still apply if politics is irrelevant.
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http://mytalktoday.com/forum/tactical-vt13.html
Here are the problems I see and here is how i see fixing them.
Problems;
1. Theres not enough information out there thats good.
2. Obama (or etc Nader, Kucinich, personality X) is just as susceptible to bad information as anybody else is until he gets his own education.
3. Trillions of Dollars are spent and Trillions more are wasted (every year) keeping the population spoonfed propaganda and thus dumbed down.
4. Our problems are too large and too complicated for any one person to solve- Even me, and I have been working on it more sincerely and with more
God given skills for it than any presidential candidate.
5. Washington is full of lobbyists and voices who are all clamoring to be heard. They are selling all of them trash ideas, non solutions, and crap, which gets
them money in the short run by screwing the masses.
6. Each and every single one of our problem areas can be traced back as a whole problem to the intervention and corruption of Corporations.
Our civil rights, The energy problem, the Environment, government ethics, economics, homeland security, etc... each of these issues right now has a core contributing root which is that big money likes these problems because these problems make big money. Immigration, social security meltdown, privatized healthcare, the push to privatize education... The repugnicon method is to divide and conquer and then treat the wounds as eco niches, and move in.
7. The repugnicon method is to divide and conquer, utilizing propaganda and corporate power leveraged against the citizenry. Republicanism is by definition
a parasitic agreement between luxocrats and ignorant and uneducated dupes.
8. Politicians with law degrees are trained to make good arguments. Not solve problems. A law degree is not a degree in Sociology, Civil Engineering, Education Reform, Medicine, Energy Science, Physics, Agriculture, or etc. Lawyers with presidential campaigns don't have the knowledge base required to
solve these complicated problems. Thus; ONLY a SOCIAL MOVEMENT can bring about REAL CHANGE.
Solutions;
1. Build an open source think tank in order to actually work on overcoming the problems.
2. Utilize formal logic, reason, and science fact, to work on a scientific problem solving process.
3. Utilize group intelligence in order to actually create problem solving process and then real solutions.
4. Realize that it actually only takes a very small number people that are truly focused to come up with the real solutions.
5. Understanding this, realize that theoretically, 100 people working 40 hours each could probably solve the problems
better than both or either parties plus ralph Nader Combined.
6. Understand that these solutions, unlike presidential platforms, would be constantly evolving and growing in sophistication
as more people and more information and more ideas were added.
7. realize that bad ideas would thus actually be filtered out.
8. Given that 1-7 are so, what will be required in order to have an informational revolution is 100 persons or so, to do the original work load.
9. Once that is done, an additional 5 hours per participant in order to advertise, plus a 100 dollar investment to advertise in the local newspapers, etc,
will create a viral and geometrically increasing social movement, which will become, rapidly, and unstopable wave form.
10. Understand that when the energy peaks, Thousands or millions of particpants will become involved, and that instead of mob intelligence which
grounds mob thinking in stupid, the new rules of this form of communication will create a situation where mass intelligence brings intelligence into phase
and into harmony, thus creating a group IQ which is dozens of times smarter than any one single participant.
11. This will be the smartest and most powerful think tank ever created; A neurological net combined with the internet to create a new virtual organism;
A collective mind of WE THE PEOPLE.
12. The way to do this rests in the fundamentals of formal conversational logic itself. The rules by which such a group mind must operate are inconvenient
to control freaks, propaganda artists, and so forth, but they are simple rules which formal conversational logic has in fact understood now for centuries.
The Criteria for a Functional Group SuperIntelligence are these;
1. Dynamic and sufficient organization. Threaded conversations, multiple forums, a virtual filing cabinet formed to house any considerable problem solving process.
2. Genuine open democracy and true transparency even in self governance.
3. Conversational Logic is used to determine neutrality and truth value as well as relevance
4. Collaborative and Cooperative mood and atmosphere
5. Open and free space seperated from problem solving process for minority dissent; Internal hosting of splinter or counter movements.
6. Meritocratic Intellectualism
7. Non Violent communication and organization for use as primary tools of "moderation."
8. Participant agreement that all past paradigms are to be mined for their good and shredded for their bad.
This includes republicanism, democratism, socialism, Corporatism, And all other political isms.
9. Participants understand that they are mutually creating new paradigms, but that even a new paradigm is potentially just the next larger mental box;
inoculation against groupthink via familiarization with epistomology, epistomological problems, and symbology psychology.
10. Each participant is tasked to research, compile, read, report, self educate, work a group thought experiment, rinse, repeat.
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“The opposite of bravery is not cowardice but conformity.”
"Out beyond ideas of right-doing and wrong-doing there is a field. I’ll meet you there. "
-Rumi-
“The best way to escape from your problem is to solve it.”
Open Source Think Tanks
- Ryan Rudolph
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Re: Open Source Think Tanks
Not a bad idea, but you would need to fund such an idea as well, and how do you propose to pay for meet ups, research, and so on? An internet forum is just one step of many.
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prometheuspan
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Re: Open Source Think Tanks
at this point, i think the more important truth is that you don't really need funding to achieve proof of concept.
ie; an online board such as mine;
http://mytalktoday.com/forum/forum.php
http://mytalktoday.com/forum/index.php
or, such as this board could be if it added about 50 new forums,
(HINT)
could operate as a think tank and solve real world problems without any money really at all, esp to start.
Once proof of concept is generated and problems start getting solved, then increased funding is just one of those
problems, and likely to be solved by selling solutions to real world problems.
ie; an online board such as mine;
http://mytalktoday.com/forum/forum.php
http://mytalktoday.com/forum/index.php
or, such as this board could be if it added about 50 new forums,
(HINT)
could operate as a think tank and solve real world problems without any money really at all, esp to start.
Once proof of concept is generated and problems start getting solved, then increased funding is just one of those
problems, and likely to be solved by selling solutions to real world problems.
- Ryan Rudolph
- Posts: 2490
- Joined: Sun Jan 29, 2006 10:32 am
- Location: British Columbia, Canada
Re: Open Source Think Tanks
but my point is that you can talk and brainstorm problems on internet forums, but if you're thoughts are restricted to the online world, then the activity will consistent of mostly discussion, and not a lot of pragmatic action.
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prometheuspan
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Re: Open Source Think Tanks
i very much agree. however, i would point out that the other side of that is what happens if such a site goes viral. Then
those in position to use the ideas will be able to do so, and people will know where to look.
On the other side beyond that, i feel my time is worth about 1000 dollars per hour. And i'd like to get it.
To arrive there obviously requires steps in pragmatic right action beyond merely running a BBS and a Wiki.
However, to make the idea work, requires working in baby steps.
If you really want to know the truth, my long term goal is to colonize the solar system, and be the first human to set
foot on pluto.
Back to reality, further stages beyond the most immediate ones are mostly irrelevant, unless as a means to motivate
others by sharing vision and thus "dreams".
those in position to use the ideas will be able to do so, and people will know where to look.
On the other side beyond that, i feel my time is worth about 1000 dollars per hour. And i'd like to get it.
To arrive there obviously requires steps in pragmatic right action beyond merely running a BBS and a Wiki.
However, to make the idea work, requires working in baby steps.
If you really want to know the truth, my long term goal is to colonize the solar system, and be the first human to set
foot on pluto.
Back to reality, further stages beyond the most immediate ones are mostly irrelevant, unless as a means to motivate
others by sharing vision and thus "dreams".
Re: Open Source Think Tanks
I guess the question becomes how would your think tank be any different from other think tanks out there?
Think tanks, interest groups, friends of the court, they are already assimilated into the system.
Think tanks, interest groups, friends of the court, they are already assimilated into the system.