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How do you neutralize the specific inherited belief pattern, or MEME of, Working for a living?

infinitethoughts wrote:How do you neutralize the specific inherited belief pattern, or MEME of, Working for a living?

Get arrested for first-degree murder.

Ok, one way.
Another?

No other ideas from other members ?

For Christ's sake! Give them some time! These aren't IM's you know!!!

brokenhead wrote:For Christ's sake! Give them some time! These aren't IM's you know!!!

Looking at the views, I see 12 views.....
I'm asking these 12.

But if they don't wanna input, that's cool.

Or should I say less then 12, cause of you and I viewing.

Working for a living is not merely a meme, it is the way the world is.

maestro wrote: it is the way the world is.

Thats just another MEME or inherited belief pattern.

Well all ideas are memes, nobody denies that. But it is not a false meme like God heaven hell etc. The point is that there is really no choice, you can live without working on welfare, but only in rich countries.

maestro wrote:The point is that there is really no choice

Thats another MEME, or inherited belief pattern. The reason I say this, there are instances of people that do initiate another choice.

Of course you can inherit wealth or win the lottery. Do you have any other suggestions.

infinitethoughts wrote:How do you neutralize the specific inherited belief pattern, or MEME of, Working for a living?

Define in detail - Working for a living.


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Infinite,

I suppose you mean working for the man.

Well, basically, we all used to be tribal, and hunter-gatherers. They don't work that hard, they all pull together, there isn't a boss, no one fails alone so there's much more security, and they don't work for the man.

So you could join a tribe. One lifestyle that is essentially tribal in nature is the circus.

You could create a tribe.

Some people who feel the way you do go back to the land, after working and saving money. But that generally involves a fair amount of work, gardening, raising animals, hunting, and perhaps having something to sell.

Or maybe you could marry a nurse and be a househusband. I've noticed a strong tendency with nurses for them to marry beneath themselves, financially speaking.

Frankly, I'd give up suffrage if I could stay home. I think it was a rotten trade.

infinitethoughts wrote:How do you neutralize the specific inherited belief pattern, or MEME of, Working for a living?

By neutralizing the belief in [your] poverty?

I think what infinitethoughts is asking is how do other people do it? I believe he thinks he has seen or heard of other people who appear unchained somehow. A research scientist that keeps getting big grants to pursue what interests him. I want to be like that guy. A woman who gets to go on archeological digs. I want to be like her. Infinitethoughts, working for a living is not something you can neutralize. Doing what interest you and making a living at it is not a meme, whatever that idiotic term is supposed to convey. There's nothing wrong with ambition. Following your ambition makes you what you are. The way you follow it makes you who you are.

Tomas wrote:

infinitethoughts wrote:How do you neutralize the specific inherited belief pattern, or MEME of, Working for a living?

Define in detail - Working for a living..

Good one.

-By not having tons of money, one has to go out and work for it.

Diebert van Rhijn wrote:

infinitethoughts wrote:How do you neutralize the specific inherited belief pattern, or MEME of, Working for a living?

By neutralizing the belief in [your] poverty?

Interesting view....

brokenhead wrote:I think what infinitethoughts is asking is how do other people do it? I believe he thinks he has seen or heard of other people who appear unchained somehow. A research scientist that keeps getting big grants to pursue what interests him. I want to be like that guy. A woman who gets to go on archeological digs. I want to be like her. Infinitethoughts, working for a living is not something you can neutralize. Doing what interest you and making a living at it is not a meme, whatever that idiotic term is supposed to convey. There's nothing wrong with ambition. Following your ambition makes you what you are. The way you follow it makes you who you are.

Right. I hear what you're saying.

What if you have no ambition?

Diebert van Rhijn wrote:

infinitethoughts wrote:How do you neutralize the specific inherited belief pattern, or MEME of, Working for a living?

By neutralizing the belief in [your] poverty?

So then how do you neutralize the belief in poverty?

Brokenhead wrote:Doing what interest you and making a living at it is not a meme, whatever that idiotic term is supposed to convey. There's nothing wrong with ambition. Following your ambition makes you what you are. The way you follow it makes you who you are.

Brokenhead, do you think everybody is able to have ambition, I mean one strong enough to get out of the chair and feasible enough to actually chase after without falling of the edge of the world? Can one grow ambition or is one born with it, grows into it somehow? What would be the decisive factor? And what about the fine lines between ambitions, compulsions and obsessions? Is there a certain temperament involved too? Or an ability to get totally into something?

infinitethoughts wrote:

Diebert van Rhijn wrote:

infinitethoughts wrote:How do you neutralize the specific inherited belief pattern, or MEME of, Working for a living?

By neutralizing the belief in [your] poverty?

So then how do you neutralize the belief in poverty?

By knowing what's the real worth as opposed to all the more speculative values?

How to do that?

Well, that's the topic of this message board, sharing insights into this rather involving process. It normally starts by re-evaluation of all present values.

Infinitethoughts,

Thats just another MEME or inherited belief pattern.

It is a present reality though. If a belief reflects the way things are then it is true. The fact is that to be given labour and services requires that you give labor and services in return unless you are some sort of parasite, or if you are born wealthy.

So you basically have three choices as far as survival is concerned:

1. you either serve humanity through labor as a means to be served back through labor.
2. or you become a parasite in some way, IE: welfare, other forms of criminal behavior.
3. Or you were lucky, and born wealthy.

What if you have no ambition?

Well, options (1) and (3) are probably not viable then?

Brokenhead,

I think what infinitethoughts is asking is how do other people do it? I believe he thinks he has seen or heard of other people who appear unchained somehow. A research scientist that keeps getting big grants to pursue what interests him. I want to be like that guy. A woman who gets to go on archeological digs. I want to be like her. Infinitethoughts, working for a living is not something you can neutralize. Doing what interest you and making a living at it is not a meme, whatever that idiotic term is supposed to convey. There's nothing wrong with ambition. Following your ambition makes you what you are. The way you follow it makes you who you are.

And many humans invested time in working a job that they weren’t all that interested in as a means to eventually be in a more desirable position.

One day I was on my job site and was approached by a group of 7-9 young males all late teens to early 20's and was asked : "So this is your job huh?"

The striking thing about that moment was that they were all extremely well dressed and immaculately groomed.


I at first had some idea they were in the area for personal pleasure based on the appearance of the situation and thought nothing of saying yes it is.

At that moment their was a distinct tone of amusement for all those boys that I was standing there in a "uniform" doing what I got paid to do.

I happened to have a piece of literature bulging out of one of my pockets and one of the guys asked "Is that what you do in your spare time?" with a bit of a grin.


All I could do in return upon recognizing the situation my "job" had put me in was to acknowledge that yes I do that often in my line of work.

That seemed to satisfy their passing curiosity and I walked away obviously aware that I had just been probed by individuals who quite frankly have rarely worked a commoners job in their lives.


The feelings I bothered to note after the encounter were those of ever so slight disbelief but then again I know full well that their are those in certain countries who flat out do not engage in employment the way your average person would.


No pofound lesson was learned other than those who are associated with money making ventures including their offspring may have an outlook on life that while not extreme in difference can cause small disconnects in what it takes for the average person to get by in life.

You may want to start by reading this book:
How to Kill the Job Culture Before it Kills You: Living a Life of Autonomy in a Wage-Slave Society by Claire Wolfe.