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Pincho Paxton wrote:I was analysing the date to get the day of the week, my program was for the Lottery, and had to only display Wednesday, and Saturday, and skip all the other days of the week. and I wasn't stripping it. It is common to use the abbreviated 00, in fact it was the default.

DateFormat dateFormat = new SimpleDateFormat("yyyy/MM/dd HH:mm:ss");
java.util.Date date = new java.util.Date();
String datetime = dateFormat.format(date);
datetime.split( "/", 0);

Ryan Rudolph wrote:Animus,

I have a question for you: it is a compute related question. I have wondered for some time how transistors actually do the work of software. You seem to have very detailed technical knowledge, which I'm not all that interested in.

I'm more interested in a larger wider theory that sums up how it works. For instance: I know there are billions of transistors within a processor, and the transistors somehow take the requests from software. However, I cannot imagine how a physical structure that carries electrical current down logical pathways is able to perform complex software driven tasks. I cannot imagine how the electrical activity at the physical hardware level translates into the OS doing something at the software level. Any clarification on this issue would be great, if you can provide any. Thanks.

Animus wrote:The image on the screen of course is just photons fired from a cathode ray tube, or electrical currents surging through a layer of liquid crystal, or some other configuration. Its the human mind that recognizes the patterns as they appear on the screen. In this sense, the software isn't anything but a logic designed to interface with the CPUs logic. There is only the illusion that the image on the screen, the software, is something tangible in itself, but its not, its just what the logic fires out on the screen. It is our brains logic which interprets the images into a machine language it understands.

bruhaha2 wrote:
Just a fun fact to reinforce your point- The jumbo sized screen we see at sports stadiums and on the sides of buildings do not have pixels like on a TV screen you have at home. Well, they do, in a way- each pixel is instead a grouping of LED lights (red, blue, yellow) put closely together, so when used to form the jumbo screen, each pixel (or set of LED lights) displays a certain shade to make up the bigger picture.

Animus wrote:

Pincho Paxton wrote:I was analysing the date to get the day of the week, my program was for the Lottery, and had to only display Wednesday, and Saturday, and skip all the other days of the week. and I wasn't stripping it. It is common to use the abbreviated 00, in fact it was the default.

So you would do something like this:

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DateFormat dateFormat = new SimpleDateFormat("yyyy/MM/dd HH:mm:ss");
java.util.Date date = new java.util.Date();
String datetime = dateFormat.format(date);
datetime.split( "/", 0);

Now you should have a string array of the Java class Date which stores the full date split into different elements. I may be off a bit here as it's been a while for me using Java to do anything. But the point is that the full date, full 4 digit year is stored in the Java class java.util.Date

Animus wrote:

Ryan Rudolph wrote:Animus,

I have a question for you: it is a compute related question. I have wondered for some time how transistors actually do the work of software. You seem to have very detailed technical knowledge, which I'm not all that interested in.

I'm more interested in a larger wider theory that sums up how it works. For instance: I know there are billions of transistors within a processor, and the transistors somehow take the requests from software. However, I cannot imagine how a physical structure that carries electrical current down logical pathways is able to perform complex software driven tasks. I cannot imagine how the electrical activity at the physical hardware level translates into the OS doing something at the software level. Any clarification on this issue would be great, if you can provide any. Thanks.

There is a progression. Originally it was all machine code which is the binary logic of the CPU. This was given instructions by punch cards. The addition of assembly language makes developing in ASCII characters possible. So you now have three layers, the machine layer which is where all the magic happens with transistors and you have an interpreter that lies between the programmer's language like Java and the machine binary code, this middle layer is the assembly language.

At the machine layer the CPU is designed using a logic which will later be built-on with the assembly language (specific to the machine layer). The logic is something which I'm not that familiar with, but from what I've seen resembles the logic of neural networks in some part.

Check out this source: http://www.pctechguide.com/21Architectu ... ciples.htm

The image on the screen of course is just photons fired from a cathode ray tube, or electrical currents surging through a layer of liquid crystal, or some other configuration. Its the human mind that recognizes the patterns as they appear on the screen. In this sense, the software isn't anything but a logic designed to interface with the CPUs logic. There is only the illusion that the image on the screen, the software, is something tangible in itself, but its not, its just what the logic fires out on the screen. It is our brains logic which interprets the images into a machine language it understands.

Pincho Paxton wrote:

Animus wrote:

Pincho Paxton wrote:I was analysing the date to get the day of the week, my program was for the Lottery, and had to only display Wednesday, and Saturday, and skip all the other days of the week. and I wasn't stripping it. It is common to use the abbreviated 00, in fact it was the default.

So you would do something like this:

Code: Select all

DateFormat dateFormat = new SimpleDateFormat("yyyy/MM/dd HH:mm:ss");
java.util.Date date = new java.util.Date();
String datetime = dateFormat.format(date);
datetime.split( "/", 0);

Now you should have a string array of the Java class Date which stores the full date split into different elements. I may be off a bit here as it's been a while for me using Java to do anything. But the point is that the full date, full 4 digit year is stored in the Java class java.util.Date

I was using visual Basics, but also you have now reformatted the default Java setting, so it isn't exactly correct for something like the average millennium default setting.

Pincho Paxton wrote:

Animus wrote:

Ryan Rudolph wrote:Animus,

I have a question for you: it is a compute related question. I have wondered for some time how transistors actually do the work of software. You seem to have very detailed technical knowledge, which I'm not all that interested in.

I'm more interested in a larger wider theory that sums up how it works. For instance: I know there are billions of transistors within a processor, and the transistors somehow take the requests from software. However, I cannot imagine how a physical structure that carries electrical current down logical pathways is able to perform complex software driven tasks. I cannot imagine how the electrical activity at the physical hardware level translates into the OS doing something at the software level. Any clarification on this issue would be great, if you can provide any. Thanks.

There is a progression. Originally it was all machine code which is the binary logic of the CPU. This was given instructions by punch cards. The addition of assembly language makes developing in ASCII characters possible. So you now have three layers, the machine layer which is where all the magic happens with transistors and you have an interpreter that lies between the programmer's language like Java and the machine binary code, this middle layer is the assembly language.

At the machine layer the CPU is designed using a logic which will later be built-on with the assembly language (specific to the machine layer). The logic is something which I'm not that familiar with, but from what I've seen resembles the logic of neural networks in some part.

Check out this source: http://www.pctechguide.com/21Architectu ... ciples.htm

The image on the screen of course is just photons fired from a cathode ray tube, or electrical currents surging through a layer of liquid crystal, or some other configuration. Its the human mind that recognizes the patterns as they appear on the screen. In this sense, the software isn't anything but a logic designed to interface with the CPUs logic. There is only the illusion that the image on the screen, the software, is something tangible in itself, but its not, its just what the logic fires out on the screen. It is our brains logic which interprets the images into a machine language it understands.

Assembly Language isn't like a Neural Network, all it does is change binary into hex, and then adds a few simple terms that create addresses, and loops.

prince wrote:

bruhaha2 wrote:
Just a fun fact to reinforce your point- The jumbo sized screen we see at sports stadiums and on the sides of buildings do not have pixels like on a TV screen you have at home. Well, they do, in a way- each pixel is instead a grouping of LED lights (red, blue, yellow) put closely together, so when used to form the jumbo screen, each pixel (or set of LED lights) displays a certain shade to make up the bigger picture.

Right... and this disproves God, how?