Since God is everything, therefore everything is God. God is not any special, particular thing, but every particular thing must in and of itself be God, i.e, must be God in its very nature itself. This doesn't mean that we can't choose between two things, or destroy things, because whatever we destroy will be replaced by another thing which is also God in and of itself. Therefore the fact that I exist, means that God exists.
God is also not a whole comprised of parts, because a whole must be a particular thing itself, which is precisely why it can be said to have parts. Moreover, the logic of everything being part of God is inherently flawed, because that would mean that a thing is wholly God, but God is not wholly that thing.
Absolute logical proof of God's existence:
Absolute logical proof of God's existence:
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Re: Absolute logical proof of God's existence:
All here is spoken intellectually and it is a place the intellect must go to for indepth understanding, as In jupiviv who brought the above to our awareness. From where I stand the intellect in speaking above has not considered anything other than the intellect, and is attempting to prove the logic of the intellectual. This is no different than mind battling mind. To end the war of mind with mind one must defeat the interpreted logic which the mind project. This cannot be done when the path which the intellect offer is the path which only leads one around the circle or zero, or reciprocity because the intellect cannot go where it has not envisioned, or comprehend what it is not aware. The intellect mind of logic and reasoning has no way of opening the door which leads one above and beyond the mind because it does not realize the Key beyond the zero is the thinker which thinks through the mind. The thinker is misuderstood to be the Son of Man. The true thinker is the Son of the Metaphor living through the Son of Man.jupiviv wrote:Since God is everything, therefore everything is God. God is not any special, particular thing, but every particular thing must in and of itself be God, i.e, must be God in its very nature itself. This doesn't mean that we can't choose between two things, or destroy things, because whatever we destroy will be replaced by another thing which is also God in and of itself.
God is also not a whole comprised of parts, because a whole must be a particular thing itself, which is precisely why it can be said to have parts. Moreover, the logic of everything being part of God is inherently flawed, because that would mean that a thing is wholly God, but God is not wholly that thing.
What do you mean jufa? The mind has failed to acknowledge the life and atmosphere it is gifted to exist within is the life of the Principle and Substance of Life Itself. The reality of Life for man, of man, in man, and through man is a myth objectified in a metaphor which is an idea of interpretation. The metaphor existed, however, before the myth which means the myth, in order to be Pure, must acknowledge and live the life of the extension of the metaphor which then can be comprehended as the Source of every "particular thing,"
The metaphor is whole, perfect, complete, and pure. The myth is also whole, perfect, complete. Pure because the myth cannot exist without the total life of the Metaphor, which is "God in Christ reconciling the world unto himself." That which is not of the Metaphor does not exist, this is why the Metaphor cannot be objectified nor subjectified. and that which man objectifies and hold subject to objectification, cannot be gathered back unto the Metaphor because it does not exist as the living myth which expresses the Myth [Son] existence because "I and my Father are one." This is why there is no parts to the Metaphor, and no separtion of the Myth from the Metaphor.
In another thread, movingalways succintly laid the path of the Metaphor [Father] Myth [Son] that binds that which is of the unconditioned Mind within the Father, and the obedience of the Son to the Principled Substance and Patterned Essence "the law of the Spirit of life" which underlines and structure all forms of thought as the Oracle of Righteousness regardless of the thoughts which appear to be of contrast.
Never give power to anything a person believes is their source of strength - jufa
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Re: Absolute logical proof of God's existence:
All we can be sure of is that god is an infinite number of finite brains, surrounded by environment. To suggest otherwise is a stretch and heading into the realm of dualism and delusion.
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How about just sticking to a dictionary definition?
Religion is stupid. Stop messing with the language. :-/God: a male deity, contrasts with female deities, or "goddesses". While the term 'goddess' specifically refers to a female deity, the plural 'gods' can be applied to all gods collectively, regardless of gender.
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Re: Absolute logical proof of God's existence:
You suggest that the addition of finite integers can sum infinity? I reckon that notion is erroneous.Ryan Rudolph wrote:All we can be sure of is that god is an infinite number of finite brains, surrounded by environment. To suggest otherwise is a stretch and heading into the realm of dualism and delusion.
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Being God cannot be defined in terms of actuality, therefore cannot be the sum of individual truth, descriptive words of God can be defined as Consciousness, and as individual consciousness.
It is the same with the word Life, or Spirit, or Awareness because neither conjure up a picture from man's mind and imagination, and thus, cannot produce any graven image of that which has no image to define.
Never give power to anything a person believes is their source of strength - jufa
It is the same with the word Life, or Spirit, or Awareness because neither conjure up a picture from man's mind and imagination, and thus, cannot produce any graven image of that which has no image to define.
Never give power to anything a person believes is their source of strength - jufa
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Everything is "spacetime". A thing is something that has a different depth of spacetime relative to that which surrounds it.
Things come about due to an observers ability to classify infinity as finiteness. They observe differing "depths" of spacetime. What form each thing takes is relative to the particular observer's dynamic event horizon. It is this event horizon that produces this illusion of finiteness -but what is being observed is still infinite, in that "it is the result of all the spacetime that has ever been and is without beginning", making it possible to infinitely delve into (or move away from) any chosen section of spacetime.
Depth of spacetime comes about because "it is what is" - both space and time, so over time (which it already possesses) it must self-produce more of itself. Spacetime has its own event horizon - as it can only grow upon itself this sets boundaries (max speed of light, max size of atoms etc) that in turn provides the circumstances that will produce subdivisions of spacetime, which in turn provides the universe with a quantum nature. With a quantum nature particularisation ensues (over time) and finally we get a plethora of differing appearances for our senses.
The space part of "spacetime" can really be dropped, as it is just the same as any other thing created by the accumulation of time. Its an effect. Time itself is the only reality, the fundamental "event" underlying everything - thus it is the only thing that could be called God.
Good old Father Time! The universe works by Daddy Time (the cocky expansionary action of Time) fucking Mummy Time (spacetime, the empty vagina that daddy time spurts time fertiliser into which merges with the past to create new things).
Things come about due to an observers ability to classify infinity as finiteness. They observe differing "depths" of spacetime. What form each thing takes is relative to the particular observer's dynamic event horizon. It is this event horizon that produces this illusion of finiteness -but what is being observed is still infinite, in that "it is the result of all the spacetime that has ever been and is without beginning", making it possible to infinitely delve into (or move away from) any chosen section of spacetime.
Depth of spacetime comes about because "it is what is" - both space and time, so over time (which it already possesses) it must self-produce more of itself. Spacetime has its own event horizon - as it can only grow upon itself this sets boundaries (max speed of light, max size of atoms etc) that in turn provides the circumstances that will produce subdivisions of spacetime, which in turn provides the universe with a quantum nature. With a quantum nature particularisation ensues (over time) and finally we get a plethora of differing appearances for our senses.
The space part of "spacetime" can really be dropped, as it is just the same as any other thing created by the accumulation of time. Its an effect. Time itself is the only reality, the fundamental "event" underlying everything - thus it is the only thing that could be called God.
Good old Father Time! The universe works by Daddy Time (the cocky expansionary action of Time) fucking Mummy Time (spacetime, the empty vagina that daddy time spurts time fertiliser into which merges with the past to create new things).
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Jamesh wrote:Everything is "spacetime". If everything is spacetime, is not spacetime inclusive in Everything? If this is true, then it is not spacetime that is the reality, but Everything. So you are not talking about, not describing reality, only a fragment of Everything. Your next statement bears witness to this.A thing which is a fragment you describe without definition. Listen as you describe the fragement is something that has a different depth of spacetime relative to that which surrounds it. Is not that which surrounds it the Everything?
Things come about due to an observers ability to classify infinity as finiteness. This is discovery of that which already exist They observe differing "depths" of spacetime. What form each thing takes is relative to the particular observer's dynamic event horizon. In order for the horizon to find definition, there must be a vertical position of awareness as well as a surrounding position. Leaving out any of these three diminsion takes away the whole, perfect, complete, and pure reality of the Everything It is this event horizon that produces this illusion of finiteness -but what is being observed is still infinite, in that "it is the result of all the spacetime that has ever been and is without beginning", making it possible to infinitely delve into (or move away from) any chosen section of spacetime. What you have just derscribed is the flatness of the intellect because the intellect does not comprehend the beginning is the end height, depth, and length of the arch of omniety.
Depth of spacetime comes about because "it is what is" - both space and time, so over time (which it already possesses) it must self-produce more of itself. What then can it produce of itself that is not already "what is", being creation is already whole, perfect, complete, and pure? Spacetime has its own event horizon - as it can only grow upon itself this sets boundaries (max speed of light, max size of atoms etc) that in turn provides the circumstances that will produce subdivisions of spacetime, which in turn provides the universe with a quantum nature. With a quantum nature particularisation ensues (over time) and finally we get a plethora of differing appearances for our senses. Quantum nature is the offset of Nature Itself, so what makes this quantum nature particularized?
The space part of "spacetime" can really be dropped, as it is just the same as any other thing created by the accumulation of time. Its an effect. Time itself is the only reality, the fundamental "event" underlying everything - thus it is the only thing that could be called God. Time must have a before, now, and after moment. But there are no moment in the continuum of you which house a before, now, and after moment, not even in memory, for your aliveness not is the life of all moments in the continuum of your eternality.
Good old Father Time! The universe works by Daddy Time (the cocky expansionary action of Time) fucking Mummy Time (spacetime, the empty vagina that daddy time spurts time fertiliser into which merges with the past to create new things).
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