What is the path to the end of suffering?

Discussion of the nature of Ultimate Reality and the path to Enlightenment.
Dennis Mahar
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Re: What is the path to the end of suffering?

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The question that begs to be answered is the reason why.

God has 1 trick.
don't be hard on her.
how else could she get a Man.
Pam Seeback
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That made me smile, sts.
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yeah it's warm and funny, thanks.

on the topic of the 'belief in inherent existence'.

ordinary/everyday thinking goes like this:
there are petrol cars and electric cars,
the basis of division is cars.
there's high chairs, wooden chairs, plastic chairs, steel chairs,
the basis of division is chairs.
a subject and predicates are formed.
and that seems to be enough to get by in the world.
somehow these things are cognised as existing from their own side and that's that.
that's how far the investigation appears to go.

Truth means:
that which exists the way it appears or,
that which is an accord between how it appears and how it exists, or
that of which the mode of appearing and the mode of being are in agreement.

this table here, by me, appears to exist from its own side or taken for granted that it does because of a familiarity.
that way of appearing is not how the table exists therefore is a lie or a concealment of the truth.

the table clearly exists due to an array of causes, coming together, as wide as the universe.

the normal way of operating is a failure to see the entire array of causes, as wide as the universe, in the appearance.
our consciousness perceives 'wrongly' or deceptively.
there's a discrepancy between the appearance and its mode of being.

the truth is:
all appearances are empty (causes/conditions).

thru' this reasoning the way the table exists is in accordance with the way the table appears.
existence and appearance are in agreement.
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existence and appearance are in agreement.
I am That I am.
Dennis Mahar
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Re: What is the path to the end of suffering?

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I was down the hospital the other day, I got there early for visiting hours and sat in the foyer to wait.
A couple carrying a new born came out of a lift and were regaled heartily by well wishers who complimented them on their achievement.
(:
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Re: What is the path to the end of suffering?

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Lol.

Crazy couple. Best to keep away from delusional people such as those.
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It isn't crazy.
It just is.
causal.
the experience of self-agency.
it's not a problem, it's a great innovation.
the problem shows up if it is believed to be Truth.

Psychology and psychiatry constitute ego as a noun.
Like Pye noticed, it's a verb.
egoing,

Heidegger's take on it is that its design is to Guard Spirit and there's a design flaw in that it can arise as the Dominus or despot.
To be Spiritual is to dethrone the Tyrant.
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Re: What is the path to the end of suffering?

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Going on a mass murder is causal too, but the person who wants to do it is still crazy.

Anyone who wants to have a child is a nutcase and is deeply embedded in delusion and attachment, no clue.
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Re: What is the path to the end of suffering?

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If it's causal,
who's responsible.

I'll see you over in the complaints department.
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Re: What is the path to the end of suffering?

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Did I say blame or responsibility could be given? No choices, and no complaints.

I happen to remember you naming people lunatics even tho it's causal, you know this doesn't differ so you can quit it.
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I like the complaints department.
I get to feel superior.
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Re: What is the path to the end of suffering?

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That's good for you... :)
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