Deconstructing the Feminine

Discussion of the nature of Ultimate Reality and the path to Enlightenment.
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Jamesh wrote:The smart genius ones are the bachelors, the ones that have women for ice cream, then find another one, and then never get married, this isn't difficult at all.

nope, they are ego laden males whose ego's are only satisfied by the degree they can dominate others. They are misogynsts to the nth degree. Scum who will use anything given the chance -essentially they are into beastuality/paedophilia -does not such a person think of the opposite sex in comparision to themselves, as mere animals or humans with a childlike mentality.

If you are not a kid, then give up this form of philosophy.
Boy how you don't know me. I'm not an 'ego' laden male. i'm satisfied quite well and I'm still a virgin. I don't waste my time trying to dominate others. Misogynist? Please, I'm merely playing the relationship game, most women see relationship as a game, so I play along, until the 5th act, then we say it's over. Beastiality and paedophilia? What the hell is wrong with you, are you okay? Like I don't know where the hell you got that from, but it certainly isin't me.

You call me a misogynist, but do you see the heartlessness of women's love in their relationships? They're actresses, that's why they're so charming, so I'll make it more charming by their love and hate of womanizers :)
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My comments were directed to the term you used "The smart genius ones", not so much personally at you - but I see by your reaction that this category to yourself, includes yourself. So yep, my comments apply to you.

Sex is more or less instinctual, and sucuumbing to it represents existing in the same animal realm as two dogs fucking. It is not "wrong" for an average individual, but for someone who wishes to apply the term Genius to themselves, then it is wrong, as one cannot reach the higher levels while under the day-to-day spell of women, as occurs in sexual relationships.

Now if one is otherwise philosophically brilliant and uses this brilliance to chat women up, to bed them, then it is not a meeting between equals, but between a superior mind and a shallow one - the women is considered a useable, lesser being akin to a pet or child. In an abstract sense it is beastiality and paedophilia, as the core is the same - an ego wanting to use something weaker.
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Jamesh wrote:My comments were directed to the term you used "The smart genius ones", not so much personally at you - but I see by your reaction that this category to yourself, includes yourself. So yep, my comments apply to you.

Sex is more or less instinctual, and sucuumbing to it represents existing in the same animal realm as two dogs fucking. It is not "wrong" for an average individual, but for someone who wishes to apply the term Genius to themselves, then it is wrong, as one cannot reach the higher levels while under the day-to-day spell of women, as occurs in sexual relationships.

Now if one is otherwise philosophically brilliant and uses this brilliance to chat women up, to bed them, then it is not a meeting between equals, but between a superior mind and a shallow one - the women is considered a useable, lesser being akin to a pet or child. In an abstract sense it is beastiality and paedophilia, as the core is the same - an ego wanting to use something weaker.
Why don't you just chop your dick off then and only use it for pissing? Is there something wrong with being the more intelligent animal? What do you think seperates humans from animals other than consciousness and intelligence? We are part of nature face it, there's nothing bad about it.

I'm not under the day to day spell of women. Again you don't really know me. The 'higher levels' are 90% egotistical 10% truth. The higher levels is simply recognizing the Will to Power of humans and animals. Just because one is a 'genius' doesn't make them forbidden to participate in romantic relationships.

It's actually not beastiality since I'm also an animal. And since when are children considered to be 'used as a lesser being'?
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Just because one is a 'genius' doesn't make them forbidden to participate in romantic relationships.

It all just depends on what you want, on what your desires are in being here on this forum for instance. I've never seen any evidence of a person being truly enlightened and having a sexual partner, but then I don’t even regard the Buddha as enlightened. When I say truly enlightened, I don’t mean someone who has learnt not to suffer, but someone who has taken logic about "what is real", "what is the nature of nature" as far as it can possibly go. I don’t even know if any of the QRS are, there is just no way for me to know - on the forum these days they tend to stick to fairly simplistic responses.

For me personally women and WOMAN, has caused a great deal of suffering (more as a total sum of effect, rather than strong individual experiences). Sages are correct when they say that this is a key factor in preventing one from going as far as they can.

Rationally I should have abandoned the "allure" long ago, but I have not done so. For instance, while I won’t seek a relationship, the option of going to a prostitute is something that I wish to keep open - and that is an insane desire, even though I've only had a prostitute 3 times in my life, they have been pretty unsatisfying experiences. It's occasional femininity that I desire, the intimacy - I have emotional memories in my brain about how good this felt - and you just don’t get that with prostitutes.

I don’t seek a relationship because I don't have or do the things that would attract the type of women I could lust over, a feminine one, and I haven't meet any of those I could respect enough to convince me to compromise to their herdiness. Masculine minded women don't tend to turn me on, I like them as a curiosity, and sometimes I like what they say, but with their masculinity comes volatility - they can be somewhat flighty :)

So even though I hardly bother with actioning either, there is still the underlying desire, and I perve a lot :). I desire for another person to make me feel good. I still want my emotions stimulated, and I'm afraid that does not lead one to reach a state where they could rationally think of themselves as enlightened. You just don’t put your heart into it.

Anyway all that crap was just to show you how difficult it can be to just float through the sea of Women without compromising a search for truth.

I'm not under the day to day spell of women.

You might just well be and not realise it. Have your read David's WOMAN essay on his site.

Again you don't really know me.

Sure don’t. No need to assume what I say is an attack on you. I'm just stating things how I see them, which may include digs.

It's actually not beastiality since I'm also an animal

True enough - but then what causes you to call yourself a Genius. I can feel the great positiveness you have for this word. Why? At the very least you are stating a innate superiority for yourself over others. Why is this so different from animal to human, all things are matter of degree, chimps for example have some intelligence.

And since when are children considered to be 'used as a lesser being'?

You're not responding to this in the context intended. Nonetheless, children are nearly always treated, in the moment, as lesser human beings because they are. They have not formed the cognitive mindset to be treated as adults, as equal to one's own adult self. All the same, most individuals and all wealthy societies value children higher than adults, they value their potential and what they get from them, the rewards of parental love - which is why kids for the most part, get the family and government protection and support they need to develop into normal adults. Governments are just a communal form of parenthood.

The 'higher levels' are 90% egotistical 10% truth.

What you are reading as egotistical may be just individuality of belief, but still I have the same problem, there is a direct relationship between individuality and ego. That’s the other big hurdle of enlightenment, to get over even one's individuality, without being delusional.

The higher levels is simply recognizing the Will to Power of humans and animals.

Sure, the Will to Power is the general cause one seeks anything, and recognising this is important, but that is a concept at a fundamental level. Gaining the higher levels still requires such will to be put into action rationally, recognised or not. I read in your words that you haven't reached the higher levels, and I'm not enlightened. I just don't sense that you readily see the interconnectedness of reality well enough.
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Jamesh, you're saying alot of bosh that really doesn't exist. What is the nature of nature? That we're animals that have evolved superegos to benefit and care and encourage others we see around us, atleast I do. The fact is that I've discovered reality as much as it will go, if I've missed anything please tell me.

You're suffering from women because you're attached to them, relationships are just a game, an aesthetic, where both people are actors in a tragedy or comedy, reflecting the way life is, but you don't have to suffer because of it.

i've never heard of a masculine woman being 'flighty' that sounds more feminine to me.

David's essay is good, but reading it over and over again won't help you, it just wastes your energy and makes you pay even more attention to them!

I'm enlightened and I can tell you the rational human animal is the most successful enlightenment there is. The genius is the man who's recognized his animal side, his instinctive will to power, his major lack of freewill, his self-delusional ego, and his level of consciousness and spatial thinking to that of women, there is your genius, there is the Superman in a nutshell. After that? There is the 'infinite.' What's the infinite? Infinite ego, infinite self-empathy, infinite aggression, infinite drive to accomplish somethings, and for some people to make others recognize this infinite.

And you think genius is not putting oneself superior over others?

Individuality isin't delusional, individuality is breaking away with crowd psychology, with breaking away from following the herd as much as you can and whereever you can, with breaking away from the collective unconscious and retaining your consciousness, this is righteous egotism, and it's not that delusional. I know when I was close to being herded, therefore I fight it, and I succeed, this is righteous egotism.

Sure women are herd animals, but that's why I like to seduce when they're alone :)
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