DMT the new spirit?

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prince wrote:It's mainly short-term memory that is effected by drugs.

And evolution didn't create the brain, a designer did. It's an organic machine, like it or lump it.
You get a lot of things wrong eh Prince?
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prince wrote:And evolution didn't create the brain, a designer did. It's an organic machine, like it or lump it.
Right on, Prince.
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The designer can't be too smart then.
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what if the designer created evolution, did it create the brain too?
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Animus wrote:The designer can't be too smart then.
Smarter than you though, obviously.
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Gurrb wrote:what if the designer created evolution, did it create the brain too?
Well that goes without saying. Evolution is an executed program. All the code is there.
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Robert wrote:
prince wrote:And evolution didn't create the brain, a designer did.
An intelligent designer?
Another paradox right? You can't have a designer intelligent enough to create a brain, because they would require a more intelligent brain. It's not a designer, it's a million random monkeys. I'm a random monkey, somehow I am the random monkey that has a good theory of things, I'm a lucky random monkey. I'm sure that a good designer would love to give us eternal life, and no old age body problems. The trouble is that randomly messing around with the human structure has more chance of giving you cancer that doing you any good. I'm sure that there are parts of our bodies that could attempt such a feat, but they are too afraid to risk it. That would probably be our electrons, who are just happy to have got this far. One day they make a random attempt to live longer, and they kill you.
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dejavu wrote:Pincho, your theory about an 'outside' to the universe, a membrane,--- it doesn't work for me! I don't think it would work either for King Monkey, great sage equal of heaven.
Well it works for washing up liquid, and I just take everything from what I see. If I can see it, I can use it. Nature is there to find your answers, and everything is a fractal of nature. saying that you can't believe something that you can see should only go as far as saying that it's possible but unlikely. However, for me it is the basis of a theory of everything, and therefore I have to be pretty sure of it.
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Pincho Paxton wrote:Another paradox right? You can't have a designer intelligent enough to create a brain, because they would require a more intelligent brain.
Doesn't require a brain, just data, formulas, knowledge etc.
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prince wrote:
Pincho Paxton wrote:Another paradox right? You can't have a designer intelligent enough to create a brain, because they would require a more intelligent brain.
Doesn't require a brain, just data, formulas, knowledge etc.
Tiny bits, tiny steps. look at the Earth with all of it's buildings, TV's, Radios, Telephones, cars, trains, aeroplanes. We think we are so clever. But most people couldn't create any of it. Some people wouldn't know how to make bricks, and cement, most people wouldn't know how to build a car, hardly anyone could put a satellite into space to have the mobile phone.

We have done all of this with tiny steps, not a super intelligence. I believe that nature works the same way.
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dejavu wrote:A theory of everything must fall short of everything. It has to, as it is not everything. I am not in any way trying to discourage you. I appreciate what you're doing.

Here's my point:

The only explanation for infinity is infinity. We can picture the motion of the universe to our hearts content, but will still end in asking why.

I am convinced, perhaps foolishly, that the feeling of eternity is the highest thing we can achieve.
I think your post has references to infinity that don't work. I don't actually understand your post. It seem like the word infinity has just been wedged in there as a random word. I can make it work like this....
A theory of everything must fall short of everything. It has to, as it is not everything. I am not in any way trying to discourage you. I appreciate what you're doing.

Here's my point:

The only explanation for life is life. We can picture the motion of the universe to our hearts content, but will still end in asking why.

I am convinced, perhaps foolishly, that the understanding of all knowledge is the highest thing we can achieve.
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the understanding of the truth is the highest thing we can achieve.

did this designer too develop consciousness? the ability to design is a product of the human mind, of consciousness. would this suggest that the designer possessed consciousness, meaning it did not design it?

man created god in such a way that god created man. god essentially representing the designer in this.
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