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Elizabeth wrote:

Aaron,

It seems that you usually respond to everyone, but I have not yet seen your response to Nick.

Well, if you're lucky you might see it one day in the near future.

Stay tuned.

Aaron big shot big mouth is so quiet. Where the fuggedaboudit is the 145-lb pipsqueak weakling missing link?

Whoops, I just shoved myself down with Trevor.

I wonder if he got arrested for something.... Maybe some 4 letter thing starting with an "r"?

Elizabeth Isabelle wrote:I wonder if he got arrested for something.... Maybe some 4 letter thing starting with an "r"?

That was probably uncalled for. Being willing to use someone and being willing to rape them are quite different beasts.

But Aaron wasn't given to saying exactly what he meant, was he?

Elizabeth Isabelle wrote:But Aaron wasn't given to saying exactly what he meant, was he?

Well, you're accusing someone of a major crime with basically no evidence other than he said he was going to show a 300lb girl what love is about.

And the way his metaphors were working was the opposite way... there probably is no literal girl at all.

There is a difference between accusing and wondering - and [sarcasm] I guess you've never heard of the term "date rape" [/sarcasm]

Now I'm not saying Aaron did anything, and I am not talking about Aaron for the rest of this post - but just as a philosophical topic since it came up, try on a different shoe for a moment.

Rapists are people too. They are not actual monsters, they are human beings who have their own ideas about what is right or wrong, and like most people, think of themselves as essentially good people. In their own way, they believe they are doing the right thing. Just for a moment Katy, really understand how someone could rape someone else - and there is not just one reason.

People do ugly things. Part of full understanding is understanding what is going on in the minds of people who do everything that people do - because those are real people doing them - not just fictional characters or monsters - people.

Elizabeth Isabelle wrote:There is a difference between accusing and wondering - and [sarcasm] I guess you've never heard of the term "date rape" [/sarcasm]

You're still taking this way too far. There is nothing to indicate date rape either. Anyway, I don't think there even is a 300lb girl. I think it's a metaphor for a major problem or stumbling block. Aaron is yet to actually say anything remotely resembling the actual situation. It would be odd for him to do so now.

Now I'm not saying Aaron did anything, and I am not talking about Aaron for the rest of this post - but just as a philosophical topic since it came up, try on a different shoe for a moment.

Well I'd hardly say the subject just "came up" I suspect that you unconsciously manipulated it in this direction because you're threatened by Aaron's first post still. Nonetheless...

Rapists are people too. They are not actual monsters, they are human beings who have their own ideas about what is right or wrong, and like most people, think of themselves as essentially good people. In their own way, they believe they are doing the right thing. Just for a moment Katy, really understand how someone could rape someone else - and there is not just one reason.

Trust me, I've done enough research on the topic to understand all the reasons given and all the explanations and all the excuses. And yes, I Understand some of them. I Understand how people can do terrible things and still think of themselves as good people.

People do ugly things. Part of full understanding is understanding what is going on in the minds of people who do everything that people do - because those are real people doing them - not just fictional characters or monsters - people.

Very true.
I wonder why you have posted this. Really it has nothing at all to do with the topic at hand, nor anything that got brought up except by you in what can only be described as a fairly paranoid post.

I wonder why you have posted this. Really it has nothing at all to do with the topic at hand, nor anything that got brought up except by you in what can only be described as a fairly paranoid post.

I suppose it could be the PTSD acting up again.

Okay, I think we have established that the ugly 300 lb girl who raped him was fictitous, and that Aaron is a virgin with a mighty fertile imagination.

Good luck in the future, Aaron, and again, welcome to the board!

Hello again everyone.

Aaron Mathis here.

This is a reply to Nick’s last post.

Aaron: I think that one is doing a great service for mankind, in particulary, by having sex with fat women in their early twenties or late teens. It's heroic to have sex with the fat women. I've had my share. These women need to get over themselves. Unglamorous and unromantic sex combined with truthful/ruthless words spoke gently, helps women get past the silly notions they have about her self and the world.


Nick: Interesting method to say the least, but I'm very speculative of its effectiveness.

When you say speculative, I think you mean in a skeptical, doubtful sense. And you would be right for harboring such a spirit. To tell you the truth, as seemingly heroic and self sacrificing as sex with fat girls is, I actually don’t recommend it to anyone other than those who have found themselves in a very similar position as the one I found myself in.

Nick: Any good results so far?

Well, there was really only one instance where I had sex with a fat girl. It wasn’t too long ago. She was in her early twenties.

At that time in my life my interpretation of the spiritual life was too shallow I guess……because my idea of ending the ego involved becoming a spirit of tremendous sympathy and caring toward the weak. Not that I think that a spiritual person should be devoid of sympathy - - but I no longer am as one-dimensional in my thinking as I was. Sympathy no longer is the master.

My old way of thinking would lead me into situations where I found myself nodding sympathetically and offering spiritual advice to the lonely confessions of different sorts of people (my advice would usually involve; better diet, exercise, higher quality reading), and for the first time in my life I found myself on the receiving end of confessions from this particularly overweight young woman. She was excessively lonely and, well……here’s the catch: excessively sexual.

Her manner in speaking to me during phone conversations would, at a certain point become very sexual in nature --- meaning her voice would become very sultry, she would sort of moan sexually, and when I would reprimand her, she would laugh and ask “am I a naughty girl?”

I found my self getting some serious hard-on’s listening to her on the phone!

Carl, I wouldn’t be surprised if you, upon reading this, are tempted to go into the bathroom to masturbate yourself. Don’t feel bad, I just did.

But the thing is, shortly after this little sexual escapade, she would begin crying about how ugly she is and how nobody wants her. She would cry about how unfair life is, about how everyone gets to have sex but her.

She was making me feel guilty! She wasn’t trying to, but I was guilty. Why?

Because in my personal sexual history, I had limited the sex act only to stereotypically attractive girls, I was guilty because I was perfectly capable of having sex with this overweight girl, and she was more than capable of getting me rock hard. So what was stopping me from having sex with her?

I realized that my biggest fear was that my old (very attractive) x-girlfriends would find out and think I was a loser.

I was afraid that my reputation would become tarnished if people found out.

Why did I care about my reputation?

Because I wanted to be in a powerful and noble position in society, and I feared that my actions would come back to haunt me, tarnishing my public image as a great man.

How egotistical was my desire to not have sex with her!

At the time, I couldn’t see any worthy reason within me at all for not wanting to have sex with her.

And what good reasons did I have for allowing sex with her to happen?

Well for starters – it would be a direct attack to my ego.

Second it would allow me to come closer to the reality of taoism - - eliminating the difference between like and dislike, abiding in the lowest of places, going where most men dont go, etc.

Third, it would give her an experience of sex that was dignified, that was normal, and thus the experience might help her overcome her tendency to start talking dirty to any old guy who pays attention to her. And thus perhaps she might become someone who doesnt put so much importance on sex.

That was the theory.


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Ok, so we’ll take a little break here. If any of you have any questions or comments go ahead.

The story will continue again in another day or two.

PS: I'm really reluctant to post results, because its really hard to say what the results were. After giving the most honest description of my experience that I possibly can - I will let you people speculate what the results were.

Hi Aaron,

Perhaps you would like to read the experiences of Cory Duchesne, as he posted here on this forum. It's a bit similar and you could talk with him about it.

From statistical perceptive the following statement might be flawed but one could argue that similar minds with similar interests attract similar experiences?

Aaron,

Your above description is significantly different from your previous indications -

Aaron Mathis wrote:But for now, I am needed elsewhere in rather heroic sort of sense. Seriously.

A 300 pound girl down the street wants to know what love is......

And I am one of the few who has the balls to show her.

(keep in mind, I'm only 145 pounds)

and

It's heroic to have sex with the fat women. I've had my share.

These women need to get over themselves.

Unglamorous and unromantic sex combined with truthful/ruthless words spoke gently, helps women get past the silly notions they have about her self and the world.

There is quite a difference between recognizing the shallowness of only wanting to have sex with females that others would find attractive and dismissing those that turn you on but would not pass the standards of the herd, and having unromantic sex while ruthlessly (but spoken gently) words about how she is fat and needs to get over herself.

Recognizing the difference between what is important (thoughts) and what is not as important (weight - as that is only a reflection of the thoughts themselves) and responding to what is important is noble. Having sex with her because you wanted to and she wanted you too would be fine, but having sex with her just to more fully get your point across that she is fat and needs to get overherself is just wrong.

At this point, I imagine you see the difference. I don't know if you came on here stating it that way because you were trying to look tough, but phrasing it the way you did left you looking like a sociopath. The best way to be understood is to be honest.

It's true that I found myself in a very similar situation. But I don't think its really that rare of a situation.

There are some big girls who are pretty eager to get some action and will do just about anything to get it. And its true that its not too difficult to feel a bit of guilt and sympathy in response to these cases.


Likewise, some personality types are eager to get attention, and will say or do (or post) just about anything to get the attention.