which are you?

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which are you?

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from glancing around I keep thinking the same thing... there are two types of people here; seekers or illuminators. where are the people that are both?
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You wouldn't want seekers to be acting like the illuminators would you? That would be a case of the blind leading the blind.

Even for those who know the highest truth, there is still much work to do — not so much in the area of seeking, but in the area of purifying and perfecting.
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from glancing around I keep thinking the same thing... there are two types of people here; seekers or illuminators. where are the people that are both?
You think you are both. You are seeking others who are similarly egotistical and deluded.
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Kevin Solway wrote:You wouldn't want seekers to be acting like the illuminators would you?
That would be the anti-Socrates, wouldn't it?
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egotistical and deluded is something I have not been called yet.....I'll take a guess you are a seeker as you didn't illuminate much. if things are not multilayered I get skeptical to unbelief. Goethe was both a seeker and illuminator when you look at his work.
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gtroy wrote:egotistical and deluded is something I have not been called yet.....I'll take a guess you are a seeker as you didn't illuminate much. if things are not multilayered I get skeptical to unbelief.
Could you wrap the above in a few more layers? I'm getting skeptical.
Goethe was both a seeker and illuminator when you look at his work.
Why does that make you appreciate him more, and not less? Sounds mighty egotistical of him to lead people to where he is when he's lost.
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A good illuminator is still a seeker - heard of theory...?
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I don't take writing advice from someone who can't write, or ask for directions from a man lost in a desert, or learn how to solve a math problem from someone who's still seeking the answer. Theorists have a method. If I call a lost man a seeker, I would have to use an entirely different definition of "seeker" to call a methodical thinker a seeker. It is the difference between a man in a raft, drifting with the ocean currents to any sort of land, and a man navigating by stars or compass with clear destination in mind.

Language is ambiguous enough to allow that both be called seekers, but by different definitions. So, if that's the case, I would take a case up with the choice of these two categories. The categories are so broad as to say nothing whatsoever about someone.
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I seek to illuminate.

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from glancing around I keep thinking the same thing... there are two types of people here; seekers or illuminators. where are the people that are both?
Well, I definitely think I am both, although there's a tiny possibility some here might disagree.

Pay no attention to Prince, he's our resident demonic imp, some kind of forum mascot. I can't tell if he's real or artifact. I think he might be an artificial intelligence program someone is working on.
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Iolaus wrote:Pay no attention to Prince, he's our resident demonic imp, some kind of forum mascot. I can't tell if he's real or artifact. I think he might be an artificial intelligence program someone is working on.
You think?! that's irony

That's the whole point, you don't think.

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I have never felt less offended!
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Yes, Anna, "Prince" is a lightweight.
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retracted.

Dicks.
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