GENIUS FORUMS

Let me know when you're ready to actually answer the question.

A sufferer does not exist. Such a one is nothing but a futile attempt to conceive many separate essences.

We're talking about consciousness. Did you have something to add?

Leyla Shen wrote:We're talking about consciousness. Did you have something to add?

Yes.

Consciousness talkin about consciousness.
very funny.
who am I.

Form

TheImmanent wrote:

Leyla Shen wrote:We're talking about consciousness. Did you have something to add?

Yes.

Not unless consciousness takes the time for your benefit to discern from those cliched dogmas a meaningful aphorism or two.

Dennis Mahar wrote:Consciousness talkin about consciousness.
very funny.
who am I.

Form

Yes, your narrative is full of exactly this idiocy!

That's the reason I asked you the last question, you know...

Leyla Shen wrote:

TheImmanent wrote:

Leyla Shen wrote:We're talking about consciousness. Did you have something to add?

Yes.

Not unless consciousness takes the time for your benefit to discern from those cliched dogmas a meaningful aphorism or two.

Arrogance is suffering.

Not at all. Ignorance is.

Leyla Shen wrote:Not at all. Ignorance is.

Arrogance is ignorance. A convoluted idea of reality is its whole premise. The idea of a separate essence in opposition to other essences. Clinging to form. Totem worship.

"Arrogance" is ignorance offended. An ascetic, withdrawn into a world of "no-self" has nothing to teach the living man. But nature, of course, abhors a vacuum and fills ignorance with a sense of righteousness and bliss nonetheless.

Leyla Shen wrote:"Arrogance" is ignorance offended. An ascetic, withdrawn into a world of "no-self" has nothing to teach the living man. But nature, of course, abhors a vacuum and fills ignorance with a sense of righteousness and bliss nonetheless.

Then stop feeling offended by an incorrect notion.

What makes you think I'm offended?

Well,
You are looking for a formula.

What makes you think I'm looking for a formula?

I don't suppose either of you have noticed that even though you don't believe in your own existence, you're both somehow utterly convinced that everyone else not only exists, but believes they exist inherently. How do you know this?

You just said 'form'.

No, Dennis. You did.

What you said constitutes form.
form exists
it is empty

What I said constitutes consciousness.

All that you say constitutes form without consciousness.

The argument that consciousness exists absolutely, independent of world
, where they depend on each other is conjecture.
they are not separated so

they are dependent arising.

The argument that consciousness exists absolutely, independent of world
, where they depend on each other is conjecture.

The only place such an argument exists is in your phenomenalist miscomprehension.

Consciousness is of an object.
not separated.
object is empty as is consciousness.
phenomena.

dependent origination.

Yes Dennis, even the phenomenalist is "dependently originated".