GENIUS FORUMS

It is my understanding that the experience of awakened being entails being at-one with All. From this at-one-ment, one is whole/balanced within, having integrated logical, emotional and intuitive intelligences into wholebrained functioning. From this awakened template--from this state of buddhahood, or Christ consciousness, if you will, one harmoniously exists amidst all opposites, dynamically in balance in the interplay of all. One balances subjective/objective, masculine/feminine, light/dark, etc.

The basis of any interaction within gross and subtle physical realms is relationship. In this place of oneness with all, in time, it hinges on seamless relationship and unity, as this seamless relationship and unity reflects the All or the Infinite. One experiences this seamless oneness as peace, or harmony, and as Love, resonating with our natural state. And one recognizes felt-conflict, tension, struggle, etc. as having left the state of this awakened consciousness.

This is not to say that one does not experience conflict, but that one recognizes that through felt-conflict, tension, etc. one has become at odds with what is--with reality. One recognizes their ego has taken over, and one adjusts back to one's Christ consciousness. Also, from this position of right-relationship to all, one readily challenges fallacy, embraced by the authority of Truth/One/All, etc., beyond ego, maintaining perfect balance, and right relationship. This is not to be confused with challenging fallacy from the level of engaging the fallacious collective consciousness/unconsciousness of the tribal mindset in either/or ego thinking and defense.

Any thoughts?
Anyone relate to this?

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What you describe is ONE of the ways in which the ego (“I”) likes to wishfully fulfill ones own need of self-centered-value-satisfaction, for that is the necessary ingredient that basically drives consciousness - self-centeredness. Like ‘altruism’ is actually a contradicting term, for any and all “sacrifices” satisfy the values of an individual before one slits ones throat for any perceived unselfish cause, similarly, being at-one with all actually doesn’t mean much, except an emotional feeling towards all else that however remains that which is not it, otherwise one cannot have a ‘feeling’ of being at-one, or in balance, with any thing else to begin with, or maintain such a feeling or understanding for that matter.

Sapius wrote:.
What you describe is ONE of the ways in which the ego (“I”) likes to wishfully fulfill ones own need of self-centered-value-satisfaction, for that is the necessary ingredient that basically drives consciousness - self-centeredness. Like ‘altruism’ is actually a contradicting term, for any and all “sacrifices” satisfy the values of an individual before one slits ones throat for any perceived unselfish cause, similarly, being at-one with all actually doesn’t mean much, except an emotional feeling towards all else that however remains that which is not it, otherwise one cannot have a ‘feeling’ of being at-one, or in balance, with any thing else to begin with, or maintain such a feeling or understanding for that matter.

it seems to me that you are looking at the map I provided, pointing to the territory, and are responding to what you see in the map, rather than the experience I point to. I suppose that is fair enough given the limited parameters of communication, and this format.

Sapius wrote:.
What you describe is ONE of the ways in which the ego (“I”) likes to wishfully fulfill ones own need of self-centered-value-satisfaction, for that is the necessary ingredient that basically drives consciousness - self-centeredness. Like ‘altruism’ is actually a contradicting term, for any and all “sacrifices” satisfy the values of an individual before one slits ones throat for any perceived unselfish cause, similarly, being at-one with all actually doesn’t mean much, except an emotional feeling towards all else that however remains that which is not it, otherwise one cannot have a ‘feeling’ of being at-one, or in balance, with any thing else to begin with, or maintain such a feeling or understanding for that matter.

for the sake of clarity, part of this experience of Oneness I point to includes releasing "emotional feeling", which is a human constructed barrier to the truth, and which is based on conditioning.

syzygy wrote:it seems to me that you are looking at the map I provided, pointing to the territory, and are responding to what you see in the map, rather than the experience I point to. I suppose that is fair enough given the limited parameters of communication, and this format.

I do understand that if I've never tasted a banana myself, it is impossible for you to explain the taste, or that I feel the taste through your words; not unless I ate one myself would I know. And further more, even if I did agree to such a feeling or experience of 'at-one with', I could always be lying or deluded, so that is no proof either, really. Such at thing could be absolutely personal, requiring no confirmation from another, in my opinion.

for the sake of clarity, part of this experience of Oneness I point includes releasing "emotional feeling", which is a human constructed barrier to the truth, and which is based on conditioning.

You mean relinquishing rather than releasing I think; is that correct?

I agree that one can re-condition (but ‘conditioning’ always remains) ones self through updated experiences, information and thought processes, and lessen “emotional feelings” in certain areas or towards certain caused conditions, but the passion (emotional strength as in strong convictions) needed to over come what one thinks as illogical and hence inappropriate emotional investments, is necessary, irrelevant of one thinking that no emotions are involved in logical pursuits. IMO, a strong will is all about having emotional strength, irrelevant of what one pursues.

Sapius wrote:

syzygy wrote:it seems to me that you are looking at the map I provided, pointing to the territory, and are responding to what you see in the map, rather than the experience I point to. I suppose that is fair enough given the limited parameters of communication, and this format.

I do understand that if I've never tasted a banana myself, it is impossible for you to explain the taste, or that I feel the taste through your words; not unless I ate one myself would I know. And further more, even if I did agree to such a feeling or experience of 'at-one with', I could always be lying or deluded, so that is no proof either, really. Such at thing could be absolutely personal, requiring no confirmation from another, in my opinion.

for the sake of clarity, part of this experience of Oneness I point includes releasing "emotional feeling", which is a human constructed barrier to the truth, and which is based on conditioning.

You mean relinquishing rather than releasing I think; is that correct?

I agree that one can re-condition (but ‘conditioning’ always remains) ones self through updated experiences, information and thought processes, and lessen “emotional feelings” in certain areas or towards certain caused conditions, but the passion (emotional strength as in strong convictions) needed to over come what one thinks as illogical and hence inappropriate emotional investments, is necessary, irrelevant of one thinking that no emotions are involved in logical pursuits. IMO, a strong will is all about having emotional strength, irrelevant of what one pursues.

As I said, this awakened template lies in standing amidst All. All conditioning, emotion, thought. One can do this just as one can look at the blue sky beyond the clouds. Likewise, one may identify with the ego, which is the tip of the ice-berg of the "Self", or one can relate to one's fundamental state. Or varying states in between. When one stands amidst All, One is all of these things. One experiences relationship with All..by relating to All. In stunning and myriad ways.

When one is attuned at a level of Oneness, one need not overcome anything. One is rather in harmony with everything. And therefore one is in touch with what is: reality.

From such a state, one is attuned to the ongoing moment of creation. Brilliant creation is the natural result.

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Well, good for you. I'm glad you enjoy your experiences, syzygy :)
I'm no stranger to such feelings, but yet they remain simply a changed perspective, that's all.

Sapius wrote:.
Well, good for you. I'm glad you enjoy your experiences, syzygy :)
I'm no stranger to such feelings, but yet they remain simply a changed perspective, that's all.

thanks. :)

yes, it's certainly perspective, and as with all perspectives changes from moment to moment given the context.

Syzygy

I see you have astute understanding of awakened individuals. Your words, "having integrated logical, emotional and intuitive intelligences into wholebrained functioning is as such.

Being one with all is an understanding of everyone, like everyone is in one. This is ultimate truth.

Being one with understanding is gifted with insight into the minds of humanity.

Being one with everyone is first understanding one's self. "Know thyself" To know thyself is to know others.

One who knows nothing other than intuitive thought is one with the Lord, myself!