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Interesting response to people supposedly living in a state of fear. "I hate people who are scared of something!"
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Dan Rowden wrote:Interesting response to people supposedly living in a state of fear. "I hate people who are scared of something!"
What's the difference between that, and misogynists that loathe women because they think of them as weak or spineless ?
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One difference would be that the statements of such types don't find themselves in a thread of "wise quotes".
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Dan Rowden wrote:One difference would be that the statements of such types don't find themselves in a thread of "wise quotes".
hahaha...it just makes you uncomfortable.....like when I'm uncomfortable when men bash women for their femininity.....
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"We hate women who are afraid of men's strength." - QRS
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Well, yes, any kind of actual "bashing" (including unambiguous hate speech) ought to make us uncomfortable. I am no fan of actual misogynists - or misandrists.
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Kunga wrote:"We hate women who are afraid of men's strength." - QRS
That is profoundly stupid, even for you, Kunga. Oh, and just to add: I don't find men to be strong in any sense that matters; they are in fact mostly pissweak as all get out.
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You will be judged as you have judged, that is true, but when awakened you will no longer judge as you have been judged.
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Dan Rowden wrote:
Kunga wrote:"We hate women who are afraid of men's strength." - QRS
That is profoundly stupid, even for you, Kunga.

yes, i thought it sounded stupid too....but do you see the point I'm trying to make ?

I'm trying to turn the tables, so you see what it feels like to be ridiculed (for your gender or whatever).

It is rediculous and immature to use femininity/woman as a derrogatory .

It dosn't matter about what sex you are. It shouldn't even be an issue. It's all about the individual reguardless of it's gender or what sex it's brain comes from.

Men can be feminine and woman can be masculine .
Neither is better than the other.
They are equally wonderful.
They are equally horrible.
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Dan Rowden wrote:
Kunga wrote:"We hate women who are afraid of men's strength." - QRS
That is profoundly stupid, even for you, Kunga. Oh, and just to add: I don't find men to be strong in any sense that matters; they are in fact mostly pissweak as all get out.

yeah (pissweak). And you blame THAT on women making them that way !!!!!!
Then you get all pissed when women pull the "men made us that way", line.
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Sex is not the answer.
Sex is the question.
Yes is the answer.
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No is my answer.
Sex is for the birds and the bees.
And the flowers and the trees.

Humans can go fruit themselves.
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Ah, kumquats.
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Kunga wrote:
Dan Rowden wrote:
Kunga wrote:"We hate women who are afraid of men's strength." - QRS
That is profoundly stupid, even for you, Kunga. Oh, and just to add: I don't find men to be strong in any sense that matters; they are in fact mostly pissweak as all get out.

yeah (pissweak). And you blame THAT on women making them that way !!!!!!
Then you get all pissed when women pull the "men made us that way", line.
Other than in the sense of mothers having influence over a child's psychological development, please show me where any of us have ever said women make us pissweak. Men are made pissweak mostly through their own false ideations. I have made this point countless times.
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Cahoot wrote:You will be judged as you have judged, that is true,

Wanted to talk about the idea of karma and how our feelings/thoughts about what has happened relate to our future experiences. How do you think it exists, if at all?
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SeekerOfWisdom wrote:
Cahoot wrote:You will be judged as you have judged, that is true,

Wanted to talk about the idea of karma and how our feelings/thoughts about what has happened relate to our future experiences. How do you think it exists, if at all?
Yes karma exists until it does not exist. In other words, our present existence is produced by past karma, and our present existence determines future existence. Thus your potentiality of humanness manifests according to causes that are affected by situations. Cultivating particular situations leads to causes that determine the manifestation of your humanness. However, under examination we discover that the constituent elements that comprise our present existence are empty of inherent self nature, thus the nature of karma itself is that it is empty of inherent self existence. In other words, within the relative condition in which we all must live karma applies, yet the nature of that relative condition is voidness.

By the way, I'm trying out a new voice recognition software called Dragon 12, and it is fantastic. To sit back and see words go directly from voice to computer screen is something that every communicator should experience.
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Cool stuff, I've tried one before on a phone.


I understand that, but I'm talking experience-based, practically. What leads where, is it dependent on thoughts/feelings/actions, etc, a number of things that can be observed and tuned out.

Otherwise we would be brushing off every topic as not existing inherently, not naming names, even though in truth these things do exist and we can be aware of how they play out.
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Dan Rowden wrote:
Kunga wrote:
Dan Rowden wrote:
Kunga wrote:"We hate women who are afraid of men's strength." - QRS
That is profoundly stupid, even for you, Kunga. Oh, and just to add: I don't find men to be strong in any sense that matters; they are in fact mostly pissweak as all get out.

yeah (pissweak). And you blame THAT on women making them that way !!!!!!
Then you get all pissed when women pull the "men made us that way", line.
Other than in the sense of mothers having influence over a child's psychological development, please show me where any of us have ever said women make us pissweak. Men are made pissweak mostly through their own false ideations. I have made this point countless times.

Oh, i don't have time now to dig up anything on quoting anyone on anything....and fathers have just as much influence as women in child-development. Men and women of all cultures have false and true ideals of each other. The weakness is when we disrespect each other and work against each other, instead of being cooperative and harmonious.
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SeekerOfWisdom wrote:Cool stuff, I've tried one before on a phone.


I understand that, but I'm talking experience-based, practically. What leads where, is it dependent on thoughts/feelings/actions, etc, a number of things that can be observed and tuned out.

Otherwise we would be brushing off every topic as not existing inherently, not naming names, even though in truth these things do exist and we can be aware of how they play out.
You speak of nothing less than each man's search for meaning, though that meaning itself is inherently empty it must be found by each man (human), and any meaning that a man finds himself has invariably been found by other men. William Blake said that all paths lead to paradise, and when you consider that, even the path through fear and hell leads to paradise, though that's a path followed only if one must.
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Not for meaning, just attuned understanding. Already found paradise, now I am just considering how our actions/thoughts affect our future experiences, it is a perk available only to those aware of their own consciousness and the nature of things. Don't you think it would be useful to be able to speak to people plainly and accurately?

Instead of, 'don't do bad or you'll get thrown into hell'.

It could be "thinking this will cause this, hurting that will cause this, being afraid will cause this, being positive will cause that".

It really can be as simple as that, being aware, I'm just not sure exactly of how it works, is it our actions or our thoughts, our feelings or our expectations? I'm not sure how, but I know these things are laying down the general path for future experiences in consciousness and can be figured out.
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SeekerOfWisdom wrote:Not for meaning, just attuned understanding. Already found paradise, now I am just considering how our actions/thoughts affect our future experiences, it is a perk available only to those aware of their own consciousness and the nature of things. Don't you think it would be useful to be able to speak to people plainly and accurately?

Instead of, 'don't do bad or you'll get thrown into hell'.

It could be "thinking this will cause this, hurting that will cause this, being afraid will cause this, being positive will cause that".

It really can be as simple as that, being aware, I'm just not sure exactly of how it works, is it our actions or our thoughts, our feelings or our expectations? I'm not sure how, but I know these things are laying down the general path for future experiences in consciousness and can be figured out.
Ah, you're seeking rules of life.

Well,
- be sure to piss downwind.
- toss out the last of the soda in the liter bottle. It's invariably backwash.
- avoid women with crooked lipstick, they're invariably crazy.
- crazy women are invariably the most seductive.
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seeker,
Not for meaning, just attuned understanding. Already found paradise, now I am just considering how our actions/thoughts affect our future experiences, it is a perk available only to those aware of their own consciousness and the nature of things. Don't you think it would be useful to be able to speak to people plainly and accurately?

Instead of, 'don't do bad or you'll get thrown into hell'.

It could be "thinking this will cause this, hurting that will cause this, being afraid will cause this, being positive will cause that".

It really can be as simple as that, being aware, I'm just not sure exactly of how it works, is it our actions or our thoughts, our feelings or our expectations? I'm not sure how, but I know these things are laying down the general path for future experiences in consciousness and can be figured out.
when the thought sphere ceases that which requires designating ceases.

take the advanced course one day lad.
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Yet we are still typing, designating, and doing things.

And what could you mean by advanced course?
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Yet we are still typing, designating, and doing things.
so, the thought sphere persists for the time being.
consciousness is empty.
empty is empty.
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Thought and actions persist always, for everyone, every once in a while you have to elaborate on what you are saying, is it that you don't think?
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