GENIUS FORUMS

THE HIGH:

The highs from N,N-DMT and 5-MeO-DMT are similar yet have some distinct differences. The typical DMT tryp is an order of magmtude more potent than a trip on the traditional psychedelics (LSD, psilocybin or mescaline). When smoking DMT the high comes on within about 30 seconds. Within the next 30 seconds I am propelled to a high as intense as the peak of a 1000+ mcg. acid trip. Generally by this point I will be completely out of my body and unaware of my physical surroundings. This intense part of the experience, although seeming timeless while I'm in it, lasts only 2 to 5 minutes. I then drift back quickly to regular consciousness. On 5-MeO I am back within 20 minutes, with N.N.I am back in 30 minutes. In the Sixties DMT was called "The businessman's lunch trip."

What one will experience on DMT is impossible to predict. It can range from heaven to hell, cyberspace to jeweled palaces, fear or personified evil, visions of jungle animals, contacts with extraterrestrials, links with ancient spirits, or adventures with fairies and elves. The DMT user should be prepared for anything. On a full dose of DMT (or Ketamine) one can not guide the tryp with the mind or thoughts the way an LSD trip can be guided. One can, however direct the tryp by what I will call the "intent of the soul" or will.

Many users, including myself, have felt possessed by various spirits while on DMT, as if becoming a medium and channeling alien thoughts. This can be quite heavy. It has been generally positive for myself and the people I've smoked DMT with, but I've heard stories from others who have expenenced the opposite extreme.

On DMT the perception of time slows to nearly a complete stop. During this stage one may feel that they are not breathing, or that their heart has stopped. However, this is due to one's state of perception. Many users report being aware of millions of vibrations and sounds going through the universe and their bodies, the body often bursting with energies they never knew existed. One can let these feelings flow through them, or if appropriate, direct the movements to some type of dance, yogic exercise, or drumming. These "physically manifesting" energies are gentler on N,N-DMT than on 5-MeO-DMT.

DMT frequently produces changes in the facial expression of the user, which can appear quite bizarre to an onlooker. It would seem as though the human face has the potential for a far greater number of expressions than we normally use, possibly even the ability to carry on sophisticated communication through facial expression. DMT acts as a catalyst to awaken this realm of movement by exercising the muscles involved and realigning the underlying energies. It's also possible for this realignment of energies to take place in other areas of the body, occasionally instigating a shamanic dance.

In recent years DMT has become quite notorious in the psychedelic underground, primarily through the writings of Terence McKenna. And despite the fact that it is rare and highly sought after, once it becomes available to those who are seeking it, very few people use it frequently after a short period of initial use. I've assumed that many people have joy rides for their first several trips, then have an experience which is extremely frightening or intense, leaving them intimidated about continuing DMT use. However, I like a friend's recent explanation for this observation better: "DMT gets progressively 'weirder' as you keep smoking it."

What I've described about DMT so far can be applied to both varieties. However, some characteristics of the two are quite different. I had been using 5-MeO-DMT for a few years before obtaining any N,N-DMT. After I first tried N,N-DMT I concluded that 5-MeO-DMT feels like sheer force, whereas N,N-DMT feels like sheer perfection.

5-MeO-DMT is the more potent of the two in terms of: the size of the dose required, how quickly it comes on and how forcefully it blows apart my universe. On 5-MeO I can literally feel my mind exploding and expanding outward to encompass first the area near me, then the planet, and eventually the cosmos. This takes place over a span of 15 seconds or so.

5-MeO does not produce as spectacular visuals as N,N-DMT. Most frequently for me the 5-MeO visuals are intensely complex, multidimensional, and quickly-moving geometric designs. These, however, are primarily in black and white, checkerboard style. At times there is some color, and on occasion the visuals are abundantly colorful, especially with large doses. I've found taking a hit of 5-MeO just before having an orgasm to be most enjoyable, and this often makes the visuals abundantly colorful. However, getting the timing right on this can take some practice.

5-MeO increases pulse rate and blood pressure, more so than N,N-DMT, but not to the extent as a whiff of amyl nitrite. 5-MeO can also produce breathing irregularities which may take some getting used to. If one does not get a good dose of 5-MeO all they will feel are some bodily symptoms, and a slight alteration of consciousness especially in the visual field. A small dose of N,N-DMT will stili produce a psychedelic trip, but without the intensity and depth of a full-dose experience.

N,N-DMT comes on a bit slower, less forcefully, enchanting the smoker with its magical nature. I've often found myself transported to a fairy tale world where little gnomes pop out of nowhere, laugh, and smile at me. On N,N-DMT I've never had to worry that the universe is too small to contain me and that I might crash into its boundaries when my mind has expanded all the way. Where 5-MeO-DMT can awe or frighten with its incredible power N,N-DMT tends to delight with its brilliant, magical, and hypnotic nature. This is not to say that N,N-DMT experiences can not be frightening. In a way they can be the most frightening of all psychedelic experiences, since they leave a portion of the ego intact while allowing access to realms of discarnate entities and awesomely powerful psychic energies. Almost everyone I've known who has used N,N-DMT repeatedly, eventually encounters deeper fear than they've ever felt before.

The visuals produced by N,N-DMT are spectacular. I see more swirling, kaleidoscopic universes per square millimeter of visual space than on anything else. The detail and intricacy of the patterns and the brilliance of the colors is also unsurpassable. The visuals are usually a mixture of kaleidoscopic-geometric forms, archetypal symbols, and outlandish and unimaginable images of people, places and things. The images also "move" and are arranged in a manner which is different than the traditional psychedelics and in keeping with N,N-DMT's enchanting nature.

If one smokes a smaller amount of N,N-DMT, say around 20 mg., they will tend to experience only the visual aspect of the high, without getting in touch with gnomes and discarnate entities. Following is a friend's description of DMT visuals produced by smoking 20 mg. doses every 20 to 30 minutes. "The vibration is still very strong at this level and objects in the room become cartoonish and jeweled with rotating 'pools' of interlocked spiraling gems on wall surfaces and ceiling. At the peak of the 20 mg. tokes, brilliantly changing latticework becomes apparent within. A gooey liquid of phosphorescent brilliance knits itself into neon lattices of emerald green and iridescent blue against a molten gold background. Always changing, always new, always novel, these geometric storms of shape and color never cease to amaze me with their beauty and intricacy; something one can FEEL as well as see. Clouds of molten gold liquid, boiling, seethe into arabesques and chainwork networks. Each node of each net and lattice form a jeweled point of incredible pure color, all rotating and pulsating through the eyes, brain, and stomach, as one becomes a transparent electric ghost deciphering mysto-glyphs for eternity! "

This next experience comes from a friend who smoked a full-strength dose. "The stuff hit me instantaneously. MILLIONS of brilliantly colored little 'skull clowns' swarmed me in a most visionary way while emitting crickling, tinging sounds which looked like violet sparks coming out of their mouths. These tiny skull clowns were laughing most musically as I died in the light. Melt down - feels like drowning and being electrocuted at the same time. Some fear is good though, and pretty soon the skull clown swarm had laughed me through death to a place of jeweled coiling roots and capillaries, swaying endlessly in a gem lit sea... The glowing, ember-like afterimage instantly swirls and shatters into blue and red sizzling domes that pinwheel ecstatically into a Creative, God-Thing with a trillion jeweled eyes that dissolves into an atomic ocean. This is the multi-eyed God that is my Creator, Master, Destroyer. I am nothing compared to this Thing which has no ego boundaries whatsoever and can turn into anything it damn well wishes, even death itself if it wants to!"