GENIUS FORUMS

Look into the issue of Greek metis and Homeric honor ... and answer your own question. Or you might focus just on Odysseus to gain a sense of what the Greeks meant. I am attempting to speak about real and practical facts about this life, as it really is, and so these ideas are relevant. And certainly in the situation in the original post.

Reading comments, you have really doomed yourself Alex, you think your smart, you think you have a lot of knowledge or know what your talking about, it is a sad thing to see, it is the worst possible thing that could happen to a person, I can't even describe how badly your mind is fucked, it's in the same position as almost every other mind, your under the impression your opinions have permanence or relate to what is real in any way.

You have absolutely no clue how ignorant you are, if you did, your reply would be, "Your right, I am totally and completely ignorant".

What you spout has no relation to what is real, your opinions don't even have a relation to what you really think, when you wake up and realize you have no self-nature, and thus no real opinions, you will see your writings are only reactions and your knowledge is a pretense.

Have any of you recognized that all of your knowledge is made up of illusory fleeting sensations, and that these illusions are based only on the specific manifestations of sensation(other illusions) and bare no relation to what is real? It's not some of your knowledge Alex, not just a bit.

That part of you that makes you think you know a lot, that's your ego, it's going to eat you up till you realize it is all a pretense, one of the few things you know deep down, if you stop lying, is that your lying to yourself about knowing.

This is for all of you!

If you have knowledge based on a specific manifestation, a particular experience, or a group of particular experiences, the knowledge is already wrong, it is impermanent and contains only a limited perspective because it is based on particular experiences(Like trying to understand the whole message having seen 1% of it) and because the knowledge itself is made up of illusory thoughts. You believe your thoughts to be accurate because they are your own and there is bias, realize you don't have control of thoughts and that they are nothing but imaginations of your mind, so why would you believe imaginations? Why would you think they bare relation to what is real.

I could never explain this to you properly, but alex, till you realize how ignorant it is to have trust in the findings of other people as if they are truths, when you have done zero experimentation or research of your own, you will always be basing what you know on false knowledge.

For example, just taking a common one, you probably talk about evolution like fact, who here has done a single piece of research or experimentation of their own on the subject? I'll answer, not one person.

The world is an illusion like a dream, you have never come close to understanding what enlightenment is about, seriously, why are you on the forum, do you understand the path to enlightenment is non-attachment and non-desire? Everything you say is the writing of an average lustful, caught in manifestation, full of desire, thinks he knows noob, that has not yet awoken, shouldn't you come back when you have?

I'm aware this only gets opposing responses from all you, but to me it seems none of you will agree to this.. but unless you all agree that all knowledge written about specific subjects is 100% false and includes nothing but illusory imaginations, none of you are enlightened, you have not yet understood your own ignorance, you think you are smart, smart people somehow over complicate zero knowledge.

You are the furthest person I've ever read from understanding that you don't have any knowledge, which is the first fundamental step for enlightenment (What the forum is about)

Your ego must be burning, lying to itself so much trying to figure out how to respond without agreeing you are completely ignorant (something you know but will hide, again)

Master. Thank you for not giving up on me and possibly us. You are the Perfect Embodied Nineteen Year-Old Swami and these Truths, offered so freely, are having an effect on us all. More especially on all the others here who, truth be told, really and truly need some help. Where will your World Mission take you? Is there a platform on a New Age 'evangelical' TV program? With satellite reach? Let me know how I can help!

PS: The red type is especially effective. Those parts are being seared into my consciousness like a branding iron! And it hurts so good!

You can't help, not with that university degree, years of your life and a plaque to prove how much you don't know what it means not to know.

If, in your eyes, what I'm saying is some low level shit you've already heard, then you haven't yet reached the most low level understanding, you prove it constantly.

And people wonder why I'm always repeating this lol, as if the knowledge of knowledge being a delusion has changed or something since it was discovered thousands of years ago by ancient masters. You think you've gotten smarter? That means you've gotten further away from the truth, how can you not know this? Forum for enlightenment

Master, no! You've busted me with your 717 posts of incisive, illusion-shredding wisdom. You've nailed me. Us! The world! But your work is not done! For the rest of us here it will require 1428 posts ... and perhaps 2856!

Got to start typing differently, I knew this so long ago and got trapped into talking too straight forward to the asleep, to much defense to accept anything.

When you name and label things Alex, you are separating and dividing particular manifestations of what exists as nothing but illusory sensations, this leads to knowledge. (That's a bad thing)

And I will continue to repeat it over and over to people asleep with desire (you)

I can only thank my lucky stars for that!

Also, why wouldn't I repeat it when all these posts are wrongly based on false knowledge? How could I not tell you while it is still occurring?

I'll put it in a clear cut way, that will get as much opposition and defense as possible from your ego's, here it is:

Fact:
Unless you recognize that you don't have a brain, and can think without one, you are not enlightened. (As you don't have the basic understandings one would find upon the clearing of delusion)

Seriously, that's a fact, having people that don't know what enlightenment is on an enlightenment forum is what's unproductive, not me.

This is the most purposefully contradictory fact I could say to show you how wrong you are about everything you think you know.

Thank you, and I'm going to add that line to the bottom of every post to fuck with people's ego's and false knowledge.

Unless you recognize that you don't have a brain, and can think without one, you are not enlightened.

Having people that don't know what enlightenment is on an enlightenment forum is what's unproductive.

I find I am forced to accept what you say as true. I have no counter-argument.

John,
What's the point in telling a fool he's a fool.
How could a fool 'get' foolness.

To 'get' foolness he wouldn't be a fool and wouldn't have to be told.

The logic doesn't stack up mate.

Therefore John is a fool.

What does that makes you?

To be honest Dennis, I don't think I'm doing this to try and get him to realize he's a fool, or anyone for that matter, If I were, I wouldn't be making my self look like such an idiot and creating opposition by being so straight forward and saying the apparently very stupid things like that your thinking without a brain.

I guess really all I'm doing is idiotically taking my frustration out on Alex, sorry Alex, (Frustration born of the fact that 999,999 people out of a million think they know)

I was a fool a year ago, I was doing Physics at sydney uni, I thought I had knowledge, I even thought I knew what I was talking about when conversing about evolution and other scientific theory. Then I realized that when I think of a word or a concept, like water or a tree growing, all I am experiencing is a shallow mental formation, a fleeting image of water or a tree, nothing more, an illusory concept.

It was only after I noticed this and what it meant in relation to "not-knowing", that I discovered I was like-dreaming. (I put the like- because I know people don't agree with the use of the word on it's own)

When did you discover? What did you do at first?

Mirrors still mind fuck me.

Is it just ever-so-slightly, politely, possible that you would take this over to another thread, John, or start a thread on 'thinking without a brain' or whatever?

Alex T. Jacob wrote:Master, no! You've busted me with your 717 posts of incisive, illusion-shredding wisdom. You've nailed me. Us! The world! But your work is not done! For the rest of us here it will require 1428 posts ... and perhaps 2856!

Very good, Alex. You win a cookie

But Alex, how can I? My red writing was searing into your consciousness, you were just beginning to learn a well known fact, that all that is known is mysterious imaginative sensual experiences and mental formations, you were just about to learn that your brain and body are only more of these imaginative experiences, you were just about to become eternal and a true apprentice of the way, how can I abandon such potential? Plus it's GF, when was a topic ever kept

How about this, does your body in a dream have a brain? Does it have organs? Nope, nope

There is an ancient quote, from a very wise man, at first, to stupid people, it is seemingly pretty stupid, such a person might even say: "Lol of course he is not a butterfly dreaming he is a man!", and would be correct in doing so, but there is more than meets the eye.

"Once upon a time, I, Chuang Chou, dreamt I was a butterfly, fluttering hither and thither, to all intents and purposes a butterfly. I was conscious only of my happiness as a butterfly, unaware that I was Chou. Soon I awaked, and there I was, veritably myself again. Now I do not know whether I was then a man dreaming I was a butterfly, or whether I am now a butterfly, dreaming I am a man"
-Zhuangzi

Now, whoever can first figure out what the hidden meaning in this quote is, I will give you two cookies. I bet it is Dennis.

WOMAN, is the hidden meaning of mans' FREEDOM.
Don't be ENTRAPED in dreams.
There is a STRATEGY/TRAGEDY to it .

To be honest Dennis, I don't think I'm doing this to try and get him to realize he's a fool, or anyone for that matter, If I were, I wouldn't be making my self look like such an idiot and creating opposition by being so straight forward and saying the apparently very stupid things like that your thinking without a brain.

I guess really all I'm doing is idiotically taking my frustration out on Alex, sorry Alex, (Frustration born of the fact that 999,999 people out of a million think they know)

I was a fool a year ago, I was doing Physics at sydney uni, I thought I had knowledge, I even thought I knew what I was talking about when conversing about evolution and other scientific theory. Then I realized that when I think of a word or a concept, like water or a tree growing, all I am experiencing is a shallow mental formation, a fleeting image of water or a tree, nothing more, an illusory concept.

It was only after I noticed this and what it meant in relation to "not-knowing", that I discovered I was like-dreaming. (I put the like- because I know people don't agree with the use of the word on it's own)

When did you discover? What did you do at first?

Mirrors still mind fuck me.

That's good,
an honest response.
That was what I was looking for.

Therefore John is a fool.

What does that makes you?

the guy who reads your typo.

lol, see, this is why I need to change over to Tao-like or short Dennis style writing, otherwise we just get caught in the same trap, was almost happening to you when you were writing more in response to their criticism, don't forget to forget, and answer the Zhuangzi riddle for them.