Extraterestial Intelligence

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I honestly feel there is more intelligence out there than what can be communicated here...what we think we know is limited...there is life "out there" that is
millions or billions of years ahead of us...how can we assume we know all the answers with this limited unevolved brain that we humans posses ?

Why do you think you are a Genius or intelligent when you are millions/billions behind beings that are more advanced than you ?
Isn't it egotistical to think you know the answers ?

Are Enlightened people millions/billions of years ahead of the average genius ?

If you are Enlightened....what does that mean ?
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Kunga wrote:what we think we know is limited...
There is nothing to know.
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Kunga wrote:I honestly feel there is more intelligence out there than what can be communicated here...what we think we know is limited...there is life "out there" that is
millions or billions of years ahead of us...how can we assume we know all the answers with this limited unevolved brain that we humans posses ?

Why do you think you are a Genius or intelligent when you are millions/billions behind beings that are more advanced than you

If these aliens exist, they would be in the same boat as us. They would still have to penetrate the veil of maya and see into the truth of their own non-existence. The basic requirement is the same for all beings, in all times and places.

Isn't it egotistical to think you know the answers ?
Only if you are wrong.

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.

-Kunga-
I honestly feel there is more intelligence out
there than what can be communicated here.

-tomas-
We'll just have to wait and see.


-Kunga-
What we think we know is limited.

-tomas-
All that we know is limitless.


-Kunga-
There is life "out there" that is millions
or billions of years ahead of us.

-tomas-
Yes, light years more to come.


-Kunga-
How can we assume we know all the answers with this
limited unevolved brain that we humans possess?

-tomas-
Ask and you will receive.


-Kunga-
Why do you think you are a Genius or intelligent when you are
millions/billions behind beings that are more advanced than you?

-tomas-
I'll fill you in on the details when we meet them.


-Kunga-
Isn't it egotistical to think you know the answers?

-tomas-
Solve the inherent dilemma within yourself.


-Kunga-
Are Enlightened people millions/billions of years ahead of the average genius?

-tomas-
When two enlightened meet they will know.


-Kunga-
If you are Enlightened....what does that mean?

-tomas-
To climb to the mountaintop, today.

PS - Thanks for the boost the last few feet to the summit.
Don't run to your death
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Kunga wrote:I honestly feel there is more intelligence out there than what can be communicated here...what we think we know is limited...there is life "out there" that is
millions or billions of years ahead of us...how can we assume we know all the answers with this limited unevolved brain that we humans posses ?

Mensa says: Yes, the intelligence out there differs from humanity. They know God, as a matter of fact every living creature with a brain knows God, and I can confidently say this is a fact God planted in my head when I was just a kid. I cannot deny this thought as a non-belief. God has been my Lord and Heavenly Father, my light, my salvation and my way since I was in my mama's womb. The Bible speaks of things we won't understand, until the Coming of Christ. All eyes and ears will see and hear Jesus coming like a cloud, the trumpets will sound, and all will awaken from their graves to witness the arrival of God almighty. That means even Adam and Eve will be awakened.

Why do you think you are a Genius or intelligent when you are millions/billions behind beings that are more advanced than you ?
Isn't it egotistical to think you know the answers ?

Mensa says: I know that I am genius by the level of my consciousness. My consciousness level is God consciousness, my consciousness will not allow me to deny my God consciousness because of what I have seen and experienced.

Mensa says: Humanity is only about 6,000 years old, not millions of years old as people think, otherwise humanity would be far more brain developed than we are. The earth was here but it was void until dinosaurs inhabited it, there were no humans then. When humans came about, they claimed to see visions in the sky, namely space ships. Imagine how primitive these people were in the beginning, their brains were just beginning to develop, so they must have been awestruck when they saw these visions wondering what the visions were.

Mensa says: Remember extraterrestrials are not human, therefore they are alien but not necessarily superior as they are different.

Are Enlightened people millions/billions of years ahead of the average genius ?

Mensa says: God consciousness is before the beginning of humanity. God created humanity from his own God consciousness--he and she, good and evil, death and life. Humanity was born from God consciousness from the beginning of time.

If you are Enlightened....what does that mean ?
Mensa says: That I consciousness comes from God consciousness gifted with ability to reason.
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prince wrote:
There is nothing to know.
How do you know that ?
And what do you mean exactly ?
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David Quinn wrote:If these aliens exist, they would be in the same boat as us. They would still have to penetrate the veil of maya and see into the truth of their own non-existence. The basic requirement is the same for all beings, in all times and places.
Isn't it wrong to call beings from other solar systems "aliens" ? We are all part of this universe or multi-universe....non of us are alien to it...it's their home just as much as ours. I think it would only be logical that there is unimaginable life out there besides us...you got to be an idiot to think otherwise. There zillions of stars, galaxies, solar systems and infinite space....the possibilites are endless.

As they are millions of years ahead of us (and quite possibly our creator/gods )...they probebly put the veil of maya there to prevent us from knowing the truth.
I think what we think is the truth is not the truth....i think we are being manipulated and experimented on by them. This is truely an illusion, what we think of as life....we are like animals in a zoo...and they are the zoo-keepers. Religion & beliefs are to pacify us...or distract us...as is most everything else...to keep us from knowing the truth.
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Tomas wrote:.

-Kunga-
I honestly feel there is more intelligence out
there than what can be communicated here.

-tomas-
We'll just have to wait and see.
We have waited long enough.
-Kunga-
What we think we know is limited.

-tomas-
All that we know is limitless.

Yes....

-Kunga-
There is life "out there" that is millions
or billions of years ahead of us.

-tomas-
Yes, light years more to come.
:)

-Kunga-
How can we assume we know all the answers with this
limited unevolved brain that we humans possess?

-tomas-
Ask and you will receive.

Ask WHO ?


-Kunga-
Why do you think you are a Genius or intelligent when you are
millions/billions behind beings that are more advanced than you?

-tomas-
I'll fill you in on the details when we meet them.

:)


-Kunga-
Isn't it egotistical to think you know the answers?

-tomas-
Solve the inherent dilemma within yourself.

True


-Kunga-
Are Enlightened people millions/billions of years ahead of the average genius?

-tomas-
When two enlightened meet they will know.


i can't answer this one


-Kunga-
If you are Enlightened....what does that mean?

-tomas-
To climb to the mountaintop, today.
Too vague
PS - Thanks for the boost the last few feet to the summit.
Your welcome ?


Are these honest answers from you Tomas ?
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mensa-maniac wrote:Mensa says: That I consciousness comes from God consciousness gifted with ability to reason.
Isn't there only ONE CONCIOUSNESS ?
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Just out of curiosity, Kunga, how old is the Universe? It's an important question in the context of what is your [non] point.
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Dan Rowden wrote:Just out of curiosity, Kunga, how old is the Universe? It's an important question in the context of what is your [non] point.

A logical scientific explaination is just a theory .
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Ok, so let's assume - for the sake of your [non] point, that the Universe is trillions - what the hell, let's say gazillions (whatever that is) of years old. So, let's look at the situation for your hypothetical extraterrestrials:

You said:
As they are millions of years ahead of us (and quite possibly our creator/gods )...they probebly put the veil of maya there to prevent us from knowing the truth. I think what we think is the truth is not the truth....i think we are being manipulated and experimented on by them. This is truely an illusion, what we think of as life....we are like animals in a zoo...and they are the zoo-keepers. Religion & beliefs are to pacify us...or distract us...as is most everything else...to keep us from knowing the truth.
The exact same thing could be said for them! For them, there may also be others billions of years more advanced then they are to whom all of this is applicable. So, why should these advanced extraterrestrials have a remotely different attitude to the one you are espousing for us? Merely because of technology? Technology is meaningless in this sense. The Buddha would have found our technology pretty magical, but did he possess less philosophical/spiritual awareness? Of course not.

[edit: missing "he"]
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Kunga wrote:
Dan Rowden wrote:Just out of curiosity, Kunga, how old is the Universe? It's an important question in the context of what is your [non] point.
A logical scientific explaination is just a theory .
Oh, and by the way - that statement is actually wrong in itself, or at least a poor use of language.
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Buddha would not be impressed with our technology. Buddha has been all over the Universe teaching other beings....He could just think of where he wanted to go and he would be there instantly. Yes he is far more advanced spiritually....and other life forms that are advanced technologically, are not advanced spiritually (as I'm sure there are higher evolved extraterrestrials without spiritual advancements). I see your point...good one. Thanks. :)

So then to conclude...being spiritually evolved is truly an indication of intelligence. I agree.
It always bothered me why those Greys, etc. have no compassion. Some highly intelligent beings are pure evil.
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Why do I feel like a facepalm is an appropriate response to that? :)
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Dan Rowden wrote:Why do I feel like a facepalm is an appropriate response to that? :)
ALL that ? Or just ....that ?

To be continued...............(goodnight)
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Kunga wrote:
Dan Rowden wrote:Just out of curiosity, Kunga, how old is the Universe? It's an important question in the context of what is your [non] point.

A logical scientific explaination is just a theory .
Mensa says: A logical scientific explanation proves itself, therefore, the logical theory becomes a truth.
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Kunga wrote:
prince wrote:
There is nothing to know.
How do you know that ?
And what do you mean exactly ?
Because the axiom of truth about reality pivots directly, pointedly and focused on the correct understanding of A=A.

Even if you scoured the entire universe or multi-whatever have you to imagine, the 'aliens' you found, would be mostly deluded, with a few wise ones who had concluded and reasoned to a=a.
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Kunga wrote:
David Quinn wrote:If these aliens exist, they would be in the same boat as us. They would still have to penetrate the veil of maya and see into the truth of their own non-existence. The basic requirement is the same for all beings, in all times and places.
Isn't it wrong to call beings from other solar systems "aliens"? We are all part of this universe or multi-universe....non of us are alien to it...it's their home just as much as ours.
They are our brothers and sisters!

I think it would only be logical that there is unimaginable life out there besides us...you got to be an idiot to think otherwise. There zillions of stars, galaxies, solar systems and infinite space....the possibilites are endless.

It is tantalizing to think so, but at the moment we simply don't know. There could be nothing out there.

As they are millions of years ahead of us (and quite possibly our creator/gods )...they probebly put the veil of maya there to prevent us from knowing the truth.
I think what we think is the truth is not the truth....i think we are being manipulated and experimented on by them. This is truely an illusion, what we think of as life....we are like animals in a zoo...and they are the zoo-keepers. Religion & beliefs are to pacify us...or distract us...as is most everything else...to keep us from knowing the truth.
That's a good point, actually. Our understanding and wisdom needs to be so faultless and world-transcending that not even the possibility of our minds constantly being fooled by aliens or demons or whatever can possibly shake it.

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David Quinn wrote:
Kunga wrote:I honestly feel there is more intelligence out there than what can be communicated here...what we think we know is limited...there is life "out there" that is
millions or billions of years ahead of us...how can we assume we know all the answers with this limited unevolved brain that we humans posses ?

Why do you think you are a Genius or intelligent when you are millions/billions behind beings that are more advanced than you

If these aliens exist, they would be in the same boat as us. They would still have to penetrate the veil of maya and see into the truth of their own non-existence. The basic requirement is the same for all beings, in all times and places.

Isn't it egotistical to think you know the answers ?

Only if you are wrong.

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Mensa says: Perfect answer, however, how can any belief be proven wrong?
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David Quinn wrote:
Kunga wrote:
David Quinn wrote:If these aliens exist, they would be in the same boat as us. They would still have to penetrate the veil of maya and see into the truth of their own non-existence. The basic requirement is the same for all beings, in all times and places.
Isn't it wrong to call beings from other solar systems "aliens"? We are all part of this universe or multi-universe....non of us are alien to it...it's their home just as much as ours.
They are our brothers and sisters!

Mensa says: Aliens do not live on earth, earth belongs to humanity not aliens. They are not our brothers and sisters, this is not their home, they live in outer space. Earth is only one area of massive endless space that occupies other living creatures living in the now in their own space.

Mensa says: Aliens couldn't live on earth, everything would be alien to them, it would be culture shock to them, they are not human, they have their own way of life, they would likely die in captivity.

Mensa says: You only need to look at everything on earth to know that animals, fowl, insects, ants, spiders, noseums, etc. do live on earth, yet they live completely different lives, they are not humanity but exist with humanity, aliens don't live among humanity, therefore they are alien to us. And only those of us who've actually witnessed these creatures know they exist. And you will know too in the Coming of Christ.

I think it would only be logical that there is unimaginable life out there besides us...you got to be an idiot to think otherwise. There zillions of stars, galaxies, solar systems and infinite space....the possibilites are endless.

It is tantalizing to think so, but at the moment we simply don't know. There could be nothing out there.

Mensa says: "There could be nothing out there" Not true, there is something out there! "I think it would be logical that there is unimaginable life out there besides us...you got to be an idiot to think otherwise"
As they are millions of years ahead of us (and quite possibly our creator/gods )...they probebly put the veil of maya there to prevent us from knowing the truth.
I think what we think is the truth is not the truth....i think we are being manipulated and experimented on by them. This is truely an illusion, what we think of as life....we are like animals in a zoo...and they are the zoo-keepers. Religion & beliefs are to pacify us...or distract us...as is most everything else...to keep us from knowing the truth.
That's a good point, actually. Our understanding and wisdom needs to be so faultless and world-transcending that not even the possibility of our minds constantly being fooled by aliens or demons or whatever can possibly shake it.

Mensa says: "Religion & beliefs are to pacify us...or distract us...as is most everything else...to keep us from knowing the truth"

Mensa says: You hit the nail right on the head, the truth is being kept from us until the coming of Christ.
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prince wrote:
Kunga wrote:what we think we know is limited...
There is nothing to know.
Mensa says: "There is nothing to know"
This statement implies that everything is known.
Evolution or creation is not proven therefore, humanities existence is not known, unless, the Bible speaks truth, then, humanities existence is known, but why are we here is the big question!
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prince wrote:Because the axiom of truth about reality pivots directly, pointedly and focused on the correct understanding of A=A.
Does this Law of Identity apply when all Laws of the Universe are not known ? In other words...we conclude our logical explanations based on what is known...what about all that is UN-known ? Isn't there more Unknown than there is known of the Universe ? A=A is based on human understanding...which in my estimate is incomplete and primitive. Would A=A apply to another dimension of reality ? Example : GOD=GOD : We don't even know what GOD is, so how can we deduct that GOD=GOD ? GOD could be a deluded being, not omnipotent or omnipresent. Would it be correct to say GOD=GOD if GOD was a deluded being and not a GOD at all ?

Perhaps it would be more correct to say :

GOD=GODS
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David Quinn wrote: It is tantalizing to think so, but at the moment we simply don't know. There could be nothing out there.
Many simply DO know :

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/exopo ... cs_ZZH.htm

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/exopo ... cs_ZZC.htm

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_ ... aces01.htm


This one is my favorite :

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_ ... ces01a.htm
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I may have to close this thread to avoid giving myself a concussion.
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