GENIUS FORUMS

AlyOshA wrote:

BO1: I am free from this cycle but still acknowledge that all and everyone is trying to break free - just looking in the wrong place.

ALYOSHA: I will relate a true story for you and I would like to know your ideas/impressions. A close friend of mine used to be a miserable asshole (or in more polite words: someone seriously entangled in the cycle and far from breaking free). His name was Terry. Terry was egomaniacal, rude, single-minded, aggressive, always picking fights, and just an insufferable, bullheaded asshole (far from reaching any sort of enlightenment). One day he picked a fight and some generous soul decided beat the living crap out of him. He got beat up so bad that he would never forget it. From that point forward an incredible change happened in Terry’s presence and character. He became humble, gentle, loving, accepting, open-minded (as opposed to single-minded), and willing to learn and grow both on the spiritual realm and on the physical one. Hence he has become a close friend to me. Terry is now closer than ever to breaking free from the cycle and developing a true, eternal understanding of himself and existence (although he is not yet enlightened). But what was the cause of this lesson, what provided him this release? A simple, rudimentary ass beating. The reason I use this example is to show how everything must be viewed on a specific, case-by-case basis. There are no blanket truths or singular ways that can encompass everything. In this particular (one might say rare) instance, violence was a necessary tool. So I ask you beingof1 what tools are you willing to accept when it comes to helping people break from the cycle and obtain freedom?

This is a good question.

Most have been intimidated in their lives and confuse conviction and strength with a bully or an abuser. In other words; anything that does not blow kisses and hand out smootches is viewed as evil.

The ones that can intimidate use their power to corrupt others and the other person either fights back or submits, either choice results in the same thing, the body snatcher takes over because of the emotion fueled by resentment.

All are aware of this phenomenon but seem to be helpless to do anything about it. It is like the vampire bite in that the corrupter is hated and despised but the very act of despising the one who steals innocence results in just another vampire feeding on life-force.

When one who is void of all agenda and is filled with compassion is heard from, this one speaks with such deep conviction it is viewed as just another abuser because he causes a surfacing of the submerged guilt, envy, and resentment.

When these emotions and scars are made aware of the pain of experiencing these past memories of abuse are associated with the light exposing the pain, and so guilt by association.

The truth becomes the enemy and the lie becomes the truth. The ego grapples with its pain and seeks a release. The convenient target of all past corruption is the lightbearer exposing the insidious 'fallen nature' or addiction to victim/victimizer.

There is an emotional outburst such as "who do you think you are?" or "You are just another scammer" and so on. This is not true of everyone but is true of those wearing a mask to hide and conceal their own suffering.

The biggest blockage to enlightenment is not lack of knowledge - it is the illusion of knowledge, understanding, and freedom.

The self proclaimed ones that allow the suffering to fondle their attachments are so much more popular than the real deal because they never, ever offend anyone. They encourage others to willingly dispel their venom and to fondle their sickening indulgances. They want others to keep the addictions so they can maintain their power over them and use their weakness as a tool of manipulation and control.

I could have sex if I choose, I just know the pricetag. I would care about the woman as a holy and sacred affinity of truth but most all the woman I have met are seeking a man to find fullfilment. I cannot give this to another, I can only show the way. So I keep them all at an arms distance unless I found one that was enlightened herself - this would be like hitting the lottery. I do not play the lottery.

The point is that I just demonstrated what is the key blockage to enlightenment - that was the original question of this thread. I did it in a way that may not have been expected and so; I am the one with the flaw and am just a 'bully'.

Others are simply trying to change my allegiance to God so that we could lower the expetency level and feel better that there is no one out there who is actually free. It feels better to talk and pretend to have experienced wholeness - without ever really having acheived such. And so; the real deals are the bad guys and the fakers are the heroes.

I do not, under any circumstances give in to peer pressure or the pull for external acceptance. I am complete and whole and do not need your or anyones approval as my heart and mind satisfy my every desire.

There is nothing you could do that would cause me to resent you. I have found the infinite tool - forgiveness. This allows me to experience deep compassion and caring for you without holding any responsibilty to you. It is all on me and my ability to forgive will lead me to love/agape that you could not overcome.

Some are still children in their understanding in most areas and wise and eternal in other gifts of the infinite. When they have attachment and try to pin that on me - I refuse to be button hooked and demonstrate that I am better at the game but use this power to help them overcome their fear by turning away from me and looking deep within their own being.

So what appears to be a grab for power because of past imitators is really a tool to help others overcome their pain. I allow for the venting and wait for it to run its course without any resentment and continue to see and extend compassion.

I encourage this release so they can see for themselves their emotional pain and pray and hope they ask for the solution. I wish there were more who asked questions - it would be so much easier but most choose the path of self inflicted pain and anger. Alas, most assume I am a faker and am stroking my ego because I actually challenge their misguided conjectures (something a person trying to control them would never do).

When the right question is asked - freedom and a hightened experience of harmony and goodwill is released that was buried from the knower.

If I were actually empowering my ego, I would make them feel good as this is sooo easy to do as they are already addicted to the 'feel good'. I would just use a subtle form of hypnosis and allow them to recall a pleasent memory of addiction to attchment and would instantly be associated with the 'trigger' of goody feelings. They would not even know I was doing it and they would not be able to help themselves.

I am choosing the higher path to free as many souls as I can.

Bof1 wrote:

I could have sex if I choose, I just know the pricetag. I would care about the woman as a holy and sacred affinity of truth but most all the woman I have met are seeking a man to find fullfilment. I cannot give this to another, I can only show the way. So I keep them all at an arms distance unless I found one that was enlightened herself - this would be like hitting the lottery. I do not play the lottery.

You are such a sleaze-bag Bof1 – constantly using and abusing women and then bragging about it.

Here is the evidence:

You brag: “I could have sex if I choose”.

You’d care about the woman as “holy and sacred”.

And then fuck one when you “found one that was enlightened herself”.

What a noble man you are - your only interest in a woman becoming enlightened is so that you can fuck her without having to take any responsibility for your actions. That is not wise, just wimpish.

The state of your mind is so black and murky, you fit perfectly Valerie Solanas’ idea of the ‘incomplete woman’:

Being an incomplete female, the male spends his life attempting to complete himself, to become female. He attempts to do this by constantly seeking out, fraternizing with and trying to live through and fuse with the female, and by claiming as his own all female characteristics…

She goes on to say:

Men need to become fully masculine to escape the pain of being an incomplete woman. Only then will men have no sexual/emotional need of women.

Of course, you need not worry about escaping any “pain”, as you’ve made very clear through your posts that your mind is too far gone into the feminine.

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Yes Bof1, you can feel mighty proud of yourself - because of your idiocy, women’s enlightenment has been set back another five thousand years or more.

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Sue

Kelly Jones wrote:A correction: my greatest blockage (maybe the only greatest one?) is love of madness - the excitement of being on the run, wanton, destructive, reckless, not-my-responsibility-I'm-mad. Emotionalism is the ego saying: "I must be, I must be, I am nothing in reality, so I am desperate to keep ahead of the illusion...."

Your greatest blockage Kelly, is not trusting your intuition.

If you experiment with your intuition you will find it is always logical and is keenly aware of truth. You have a very powerful intellect but are excluding most of what is your genius.

It is okay to be will of the wisp, in fact, this could be used as a definition of enlightenment itself. You are trying to put in compartments your thoughts. They are not individual 'things' to file away.

Trust your intuition and you will see flawless logic surfacing.

Being a mad hatter is the same as being this will o' the wisp, try on any hat you like --- or handbag.

Not when you know better, that is playing with the pain and blowing on its seering embers.

What is a hypocrite?

A capable liar.
One who hides their own weakness by exploiting that of others and creating misdirection.

How to stop trying to distract oneself, being a hypocrite, avoiding emptiness is: Not by exploring an opposite to the attachment, but by going straight to the Absolute. It has to be one's whole being, not psychological or an activity (like trying to be calmer and "detached").

It is through surrendering to what is flowing out and through you, from you; instead of trying to manufacture it.

The Abyss

Wisdom is gained through immersion.
Truth is at the bottom of the deepest abyss.
Forget about trying to hold your breath,
You must drown yourself.

Surrender - yes.

sue hindmarsh,

I thought I made it clear I would not accept any advances from you or anyone else.

Why do you want my attention?

Do you view absolute honesty as a flaw?

You must, because you are not telling the truth here at all and we both know it.

Let me think, you are horrified that I might have sex one day?

The chances of this are astronomical and yet you are outraged at what again?

Why don`t you ask questions Sue?

A little song.

Well, I woke up in the morning there's frogs inside my socks
Your mama, she's a-hidin' inside the icebox
Your daddy walks in wearin' a Napoleon Bonaparte mask
Then you ask why I don't live here ---- Honey, do you have to ask?

Well, I go to pet your monkey --- I get a face full of claws
I ask who's in the fireplace and you tell me Santa Claus
The milkman comes in, he's wearing a derby hat
Then you ask why I don't live here ---- Honey, how come you have to ask me that?

Well, I asked for something to eat, I'm hungry as a hog
So I get brown rice, seaweed and a dirty hot dog
I've got a hole where my stomach disappeared
Then you ask why I don't live here --- Honey, I gotta think you're really weird.

Your grandpa's cane --- it turns into a sword
Your grandma prays to pictures that are pasted on a board
Everything inside my pockets, your uncle steals
Then you ask why I don't live here ---- Honey, I can't believe that you're for real.

Well, there's fist fights in the kitchen --- They're enough to make me cry
The mailman comes in, even he's gotta take a side
Even the butler, he's got something to prove
Then you ask why I don't live here ---- Honey, how come you don't move?

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sue hindmarsh wrote:Bof1 wrote:

Men need to become fully masculine to escape the pain of being an incomplete woman. Only then will men have no sexual/emotional need of women.

Of course, you need not worry about escaping any “pain”, as you’ve made very clear through your posts that your mind is too far gone into the feminine.

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Sue

I honestly think he doesn't see how he contradicts himself, he's simply too unconscious to realize it. Or as you put it, "his mind is too fare gone into the feminine".

DavidQuinn000 wrote:Scott wrote:

I only agreed because I thought of it first. It was the first thing that popped in my mind while reading your post to her. "Damn, David seems kind of desperate."

I have no idea what you talking about, of course. I've reread that post and don't see anything in it at all. From my end, it was all lofty indifference from beginning to end.

I didn't see anything I read as out of character on your part either. I think Scott's ignorance causes him to consistently project his characteristics on to others.

DavidQuinn000 wrote:Still, it has made me take note that I have to be more careful when dealing with women on the net in future, particularly young wounded women.

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Indeed, Sky seems extremely susceptible to forming brash conclusions.

Kevin Solway wrote:

Yes, I am sometimes zapped by a stunner. I am not a perfectly enlightened Buddha.

How can you be absolutely certain that a perfectly enlightened Buddha is not zapped by stunners? You have no way of knowing besides reading what others have said.

Solway: Arent you in your forties or fifties by now? And you're still holding on to this feeble hope that someday you maybe free from stunners?

Kevin Solway wrote:

Thoughts associated with sexual pleasure are definitely deluded. When those thoughts are analyzed in the cold light of reason, the conclusion is inevitable - they are deluded.

Yes they are deluded, but they trigger the reproductive mechanism which is necessary if the chromosomes are to be expelled from the body, How else are the sperm to be jettisoned if not by a mechanical chemical induced trigger caused by ‘deluded thought’?

Kevin Solway wrote:

Not often these days. But I'm not happy about it, because I think it is like taking drugs. That is, it is an unessential pleasure and release of stress. It is the taking of a holiday in an "animal realm" (as they say in Buddhism) - a rebirth in an animal realm.

Is the only reason you are unhappy with it because you have the ideal of no sexual desire which is preventing you from actually accepting 'what is' which is ‘sexual desire’ Moreover why are you emotionally involved in something you have no control over?

David Quinn wrote:

but I have no qualms about masturbating if I have to release some pressure.

It’s more than just releasing pressure, The body sends the command to violently expel the genetic information from the sex organs. Have you have studied geology? It is interesting how two tectonic plates will violently collide in a destructive process creating vast beautiful mountain chains. The body is no different than natural processes we observe in nature.

I agree that sex is violence, but is a necessary pain.

The organism is a highly intelligent machine that is programmed to reproduce, sexuality is necessary in this world.

David Quinn wrote:

But again, with the way technology is currently developing, it won't be long before sex, as a procreation tool, becomes redundant.

I think this is wishful thinking on your part, it is you trying to fulfill your ideals which are not yet a reality, do you believe that woman will allow her babies to be born in a laboratory? What are the ethical implications of using a Laboratory over the human body? Isn’t a machine a pale comparison to what nature has created? I know what can go wrong in my car or computer, now how about using a machine to keep an infant alive for nine months, how reliable is that?

David Quinn wrote:

Firstly, Nature doesn't care about wise people at all. She couldn't care less whether Buddhas survive or not. If it turns out that wise people are unable, for whatever reason, to produce children and continue the species, it will be no skin off God's nose.

Why have you separated yourself from nature and label nature as a female? And isnt the survival of the species as a whole all nature cares about? And why have you separated yourself from god? This sounds illogical to me.

David Quinn wrote:

I think he probably could get an erection with the help of excessive physical stimulation

If the Buddha or Jesus were standing next to a beautiful woman, there definitely would be feelings of attraction, it is programmed into the very cells themselves to expel the haploid chromosomes. You have been reading too many idealistic scriptures of the overman. Lay off the Zarathustra, Actually use that book as a cum rag the next time you masturbate to 'relieve pressure' as you say.

David wrote:

Still, it has made me take note that I have to be more careful when dealing with women on the net in future, particularly young wounded women.

Pfft. No you don't, they're unconscious. What difference would it make ?

Frankly, I am staggered by the accusations that you were on some level attracted to/aroused by her. For it to be implied that you are being dishonest over a blue font with no more clothes on than punctuation and form???

What a joke!

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cosmic_prostitute wrote:
David Quinn wrote:

Firstly, Nature doesn't care about wise people at all. She couldn't care less whether Buddhas survive or not. If it turns out that wise people are unable, for whatever reason, to produce children and continue the species, it will be no skin off God's nose.

Why have you separated yourself from nature and label nature as a female? And isnt the survival of the species as a whole all nature cares about? And why have you separated yourself from god? This sounds illogical to me.

He's not seperating himself from nature in the manner you are thinking. He's explaining how nature has no cares either way. Whatever happens, happens, nature simply is. The reason for the refering to nature as a female is because they are both unconscious entities. Also, how did you come to the conclusion that nature cares to begin with?

David wrote:

Still, it has made me take note that I have to be more careful when dealing with women on the net in future, particularly young wounded women.

Leyla wrote:

Pfft. No you don't, they're unconscious. What difference would it make ?

Frankly, I am staggered by the accusations that you were on some level attracted to/aroused by her. For it to be implied that you are being dishonest over a blue font with no more clothes on than punctuation and form???

What a joke!

Wow, I actually agree with Leyla for once.

I agree, Sky doesn’t deserve special treatment at all, she’s playing a clever game that one, it’s almost as if she has substituted the positive sexual attention from men for the negative attention of being 'the victim', it seems as though she playing the sympathy card to me, but this cat has two jokers up his sleeve so sorry dear, go fish…

Nick wrote:

He's not separating himself from nature in the manner you are thinking. He's explaining how nature has no cares either way.

No but Quinn cares either way because he would like to see technology develop the fetus over women because he has the ideal that humans will someday be free from sexual desire. I am simply pointing out that he cares as do I, I think it is more intelligent for the fetus to be raised within the human body.

Nick wrote:

Whatever happens, happens, nature simply is. The reason for the referring to nature as a female is because they are both unconscious entities.

I suppose it depends on what you define Nature as.

I’m suggesting that nature isn’t an unconscious entity. For instance: we have gone from single celled bacteria to multicelluar organisms to fish to reptiles to mammals to human beings. So we see higher jumps in complexity, this doesn’t seem like an unconscious process, it seems like a highly intelligent process.

Nick wrote:

Also, how did you come to the conclusion that nature cares to begin with?

It does seem that nature/universe is striving for greater order, perfection and harmony.

And there is no nature separate from god and there is no god separate from entities cooperating with each other.

cosmic_prostitute wrote:How can you be absolutely certain that a perfectly enlightened Buddha is not zapped by stunners? You have no way of knowing besides reading what others have said.

It's extrapolation from what I do know.

Sexual excitement requires some kind of emotional/delusional input. Without that input, the excitement doesn't have any fuel, and so never gets started. Everything else required might be present - the attractive girl, etc - but without particular emotions and delusions, nothing happens.

Yes they are deluded, but they trigger the reproductive mechanism which is necessary if the chromosomes are to be expelled from the body

This can be done with technology. The delusions are no longer necessary.

How else are the sperm to be jettisoned if not by a mechanical chemical induced trigger caused by ‘deluded thought’?

Technology can navigate these hurdles without much trouble.

Is the only reason you are unhappy with it because you have the ideal of no sexual desire which is preventing you from actually accepting 'what is' which is ‘sexual desire’

No, I have the ideal of being without deluded thoughts, and I know it is realistic ideal to strive for.

Deluded thoughts in myself trigger deluded thoughts in others. I don't want to live in a world full of lies. I don't regard a life of lies as a real life.

Moreover why are you emotionally involved in something you have no control over?

I'm not sure what you mean. When I say "I'm not happy about it" I only mean that I would prefer it didn't happen. I don't get hung-up or guilty about it, since that would be multiplying the delusions even further.

The organism is a highly intelligent machine that is programmed to reproduce, sexuality is necessary in this world.

The body is just like any other machine, unless all the conditions fall into place the end result is not forthcoming. Without a key a car will not run. Delusions are the key to sexual excitement.

I know what can go wrong in my car or computer, now how about using a machine to keep an infant alive for nine months, how reliable is that?

It will probably be at least thousands of years before we have a high pecentage of Buddha's in the population. By that time we will have the appropriate reliable technology.

If the Buddha or Jesus were standing next to a beautiful woman, there definitely would be feelings of attraction, it is programmed into the very cells themselves to expel the haploid chromosomes.

There would be hormones traveling from the woman to the man and triggering chemical reactions in his body, etc. But without the delusions in this brain there are not the required ingredients for it to go any further. The engine is there, but not the key.

Solway. What exactly is the delusion about sexual reproduction?

What is the advantage of reproduction in a lab versus the old fashioned way? Centralized control by the self proclaimed elite? Or something else?

Check out this relevant and brilliant thread of mine, if you dare.

Genetic Engineering = Woman Hate

millipodium wrote:Solway. What exactly is the delusion about sexual reproduction?

I presume you mean delusions associated with sexual act. You can work these out for yourself, but they centre around dominance and submission, need for approval, power, perhaps even love.

What is the advantage of reproduction in a lab versus the old fashioned way?

The possibility of less delusion, and more control.

Also, it gives intelligent people a chance of passing their genes on to the next generation.

ksolway wrote:

millipodium wrote:Solway. What exactly is the delusion about sexual reproduction?

I presume you mean delusions associated with sexual act. You can work these out for yourself, but they centre around dominance and submission, need for approval, power, perhaps even love.

What is the advantage of reproduction in a lab versus the old fashioned way?

The possibility of less delusion, and more control.

Also, it gives intelligent people a chance of passing their genes on to the next generation.

Actually I think the fact of needing a woman to reproduce, guarantees only materially responsible men mate. A woman's judgement keeps us from overrunning our resources, naturally. It's a good design. You're just bitter.

Kevin Solway wrote:

Deluded thoughts in myself trigger deluded thoughts in others. I don't want to live in a world full of lies. I don't regard a life of lies as a real life.

Are you taking this a little too far? We’re talking about the odd sexual experience to keep the species going. If you are aware that it is a lie is it still a lie? The occasional exciting disturbance is harmless, You’re basically taking one for the team to keep the species going.

Kevin Solway wrote:

Sexual excitement requires some kind of emotional/delusional input. Without that input, the excitement doesn't have any fuel, and so never gets started. Everything else required might be present - the attractive girl, etc - but without particular emotions and delusions, nothing happens.

You are not taking into account what role the genes play in all this. The genes are powerful, they control a large amount of human behavior. The genes force the brain to indulge in ‘deluded thoughts’ and therefore force the sperm from the body.

And also some individuals are much more sexual than others and genetics is a considerable factor to consider.

What is the relationship between DNA instruction, Neurological pathways/patterns, ‘exciting mechanistic thought patterns’, and orgasms? Is there a logical link between all four?

Kevin Solway wrote:

This can be done with technology. The delusions are no longer necessary.

Do you see what you are saying? You are saying sometime in the future when we have technology sexual thoughts will no longer be necessary, but in the meantime you and everyone else you know are not free from sexual thoughts, you are merely speculating at this point and I don’t see any solid evidence that we are evolving towards being asexuals although I have considered it.

I suppose it could be a reality, but it also could also just be the wishful thinking of man.

Kevin Solway wrote:

but not the key.

If the key is controlled by the DNA then how is the DNA going to change?

DavidQuinn000 wrote:Still, it has made me take note that I have to be more careful when dealing with women on the net in future, particularly young wounded women.

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It sounds like you'd like to prove to every woman on the net that you're not out to get in her pants, but talk about lost causes!

cosmic_prostitute wrote:

Deluded thoughts in myself trigger deluded thoughts in others. I don't want to live in a world full of lies. I don't regard a life of lies as a real life.

Are you taking this a little too far? We’re talking about the odd sexual experience to keep the species going. If you are aware that it is a lie is it still a lie?

You're only aware of the lies upon reflection. But there's not normally a lot of reflection going on during the sexual act. The conscious mind is put out of gear. Reflection on such matters during sex would put a real dampener on it.

If one is aware of the lies after the sexual interlude, then that is a good thing, but those few delusions will continue to have an effect for long after, through the workings of cause and effect. They are like a small seed that can spring up and grown into something much more, perhaps in another person.

The occasional exciting disturbance is harmless.

Such a life is less harmful than the ordinary life, provided one is strongly conscious inbetween times. But I strive for perfection.

Sexual excitement requires some kind of emotional/delusional input. Without that input, the excitement doesn't have any fuel, and so never gets started. Everything else required might be present - the attractive girl, etc - but without particular emotions and delusions, nothing happens.

You are not taking into account what role the genes play in all this. The genes are powerful, they control a large amount of human behavior.

Yes, they're very powerful.

The genes force the brain to indulge in ‘deluded thoughts’ and therefore force the sperm from the body.

But they're not that powerful. My genes can't force my brain to indulge in deluded thoughts if my habitual deluded brain pathways have all dried up through dis-use.

The genes can do their best to make those thoughts happen, but there will be a missing ingredient.

I don’t see any solid evidence that we are evolving towards being asexuals although I have considered it.

Judging by the content of the Internet, and television, we aren't currently evolving towards being asexual.

If the key is controlled by the DNA then how is the DNA going to change?

I'm not sure what you are asking. Do you mean that delusion is important for creating genetic diversity?

Beingof1 wrote:sue hindmarsh,

I thought I made it clear I would not accept any advances from you or anyone else.

Why do you want my attention?

Do you view absolute honesty as a flaw?

You must, because you are not telling the truth here at all and we both know it.

Let me think, you are horrified that I might have sex one day?

The chances of this are astronomical and yet you are outraged at what again?

Why don`t you ask questions Sue?

No, Sue is definitely in the right on this one. Your true colors are really coming out, BeingOf1. Why don't you bang that 24 year old hottie that's after you? It doesn't get any better than that...she would probably do all the work.

I can't imagine fucking an enlightened being of any kind. That's the ultimate in gross.

Kevin Solway wrote:

Such a life is less harmful than the ordinary life, provided one is strongly conscious inbetween times. But I strive for perfection.

But with this "conscious I” that is striving for perfection, are there limitations on the body itself in terms of what the "conscious I” has the power to override?

Kevin Solway wrote:

If one is aware of the lies after the sexual interlude, then that is a good thing, but those few delusions will continue to have an effect for long after, through the workings of cause and effect. They are like a small seed that can spring up and grown into something much more, perhaps in another person.

Can you give an example of this?

Are you referring to the series of ‘thoughts’ that surface in the mind after the sexual act itself?

Kevin Solway wrote:

My genes can't force my brain to indulge in deluded thoughts if my habitual deluded brain pathways have all dried up through dis-use.

But what role has the genes played in the initial formation of these habitual deluded brain pathways? The problem is that once a pathway has been established and the body is rewarded chemically from the release then it is very difficult to break because the very genes that started the process and working hard to guarantee it continues.

The body is just a large factory and the foreman (double helix DNA) has great power over how that system is run.

But what affect does a conscious rational mind have on the DNA itself? Can the presence of the conscious mind within the body actually cause macro evolutionary changes to the behavior of the DNA molecules themselves?

In the beginning of ones search, It appears that memes of other thinkers alter the brain structure in a way that opens the individual up to rationality, but once rationality is running through the brain then does this presence of rationality tweak and make changes to the actual organism?

Kevin Solway wrote:

I'm not sure what you are asking. Do you mean that delusion is important for creating genetic diversity?

I’m suggesting that sexual desires/delusions are controlled by hormonal activity. The hormones are manufactured by the DNA and sent as a surge to the brain, when this happens one is completely helpless, it is like trying to stop a freight train.

Some individuals have more active genes than others in relationship to hormone production. The individuals that have the most active genes will the ones who are the lewdest.

You will notice that after one eats, sometimes the biological urge is intense, this is because the excess energy from the food is used by the DNA for hormone production, and the DNA sends the hormones to the brain resulting in the strong biological urge.

This makes perfect evolutionary sense because it requires a lot of energy to have sex and after the homo sapiens finished a meal it would be the perfect time for sex because there is an adequate amount of energy for hormone production and sexual intercourse.

We think our dating traditions are more civilized than primitives because we take a girl out to dinner, a movie and then hope for sex at the end of the night, but in actuality things haven’t changed much in 500 000 years.

One can feel the of hormones being delivered to the brain as a surge. Hormones are also released from the skin making the body smell different to the female. There is a series of hormonal reactions that all occur together.

One can become sensitive to that entire movement and thus realizing that nothing can be done to stop it.

All I can say about me thinking David was on some level attracted to sky, is that sometimes it helps to read between the lines. Go with your gut instinct.

My gut instinct told me that underneath what David was saying, was a desperation for female attention. Nothing he wrote told me this...it was just a feeling. A hunch.

Is what Nick suggested of me correct, that I'm projecting my characteristics onto others? I don't think so. Other people who don't like me might think so, but I'd say that's just them projecting their hatred mixed with their ignorance onto an ass-umption about who I am.

It may be true...but so may David's underlying desperation.

And on that note: is it possible for a man to never feel lust for a woman? Even if he's enlightened, he can't deny his biology. Men are attracted to women and women to men, once all the bullshit is out of the way.

When I was a young kid, I saw a naked woman and got an erection. There was nothing delusional about it...it was physiological. Like how some food tastes good and some doesn't. My sexual tastes were geared towards women, and it had nothing to do with how ignorant I was of the truth. The fact that "wise people" don't get erections when looking at beautiful women only shows that there's a lot of stuff in the way of their physical attraction to them. Psychological disorder.

Saying that an enlightened person would need Viagara is kind of funny. Men with very little of their active principle (masculinity) left need Viagara...unless of course they have an actual medical condition that prevents erections.

But that's just on a physical level. On the mental level, is it ever truly possible to overcome Woman? I don't know...I doubt it, in all honesty. I doubt that anyone here is completely over her. Sure, a person may become wiser and see a woman for what she is, but I don't think that will make the person feel less attraction to her. It hasn't been the case, in my case.

Once again, honesty plays an important role. How open are you to what you actually are? Not what you want to be. This takes a love of truth far beyond the reaches of most people.

Most of these geniuses are not into being honest about the world, they are upset it doesn't worship them, and are bent on bending reality to suit their massive egos. Hence, the beatification of genetic engineering.

Aren't we all that way?