Surfer dude stuns physicists with theory of everything
Surfer dude stuns physicists with theory of everything
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Re: Surfer dude stuns physicists with theory of everything
Way too complex. God is probably more likely than this. Gravity is easy to fit into a model of everything without such a complex mess.
Re: Surfer dude stuns physicists with theory of everything
Yeah, because I don't have the knowledge to understand the science involved above, I create stuff like the following. Was going to post it on some other thread, but here will do. I still think science in continually having to define and prove the existence of "special parts" loses the plot a bit, but i guess thats just what they have to, and want to, do.
The beauty of space is that it is a dimensionless domain of existence.
Just because something is dimensionless, does not mean that it does not exist. In fact only because it is dimensionless, can dimensions be caused to exist in things. That’s what space does.
Space is absence of the boundaries of dimensions, and is thus infinite. In being infinite this means it IS all things.
Any thing is bounded, though only in a fashion, as it remains interconnected and caused, by that which it is not. Things have form of self-boundedness because the pattern of that thing competes with the patterns of other things.
Space does not have this form of boundary. Space is infinitely pliable. It has no internal structure. It has no self-existence, except in terms of the existence caused by it being different in one aspect to that which causes it, to that which causes the effect. Space is simply the necessary outcome of there being two fundamental opposites. Two opposites that cannot be separated from each other as they are dependent on each for their very existence, and at this fundamental level, they don’t exist spatially anyway. So although they are opposite they are also completely converged.
In being both opposite and converged there exists an inbetweenness, where one flows into the other. Most importantly though, a third pure entity is created, or more accurately is always in existence. It could be said that each point in the spectrum of convergence is a pure entity, in that it will be some part more expansionary than contracting and vice versa, but the problem is that there are no such "points" and in what is converging being fundamentally unequal, they are in a continuous state of ratio change. There is however a point where convergence of the two forces results in perfect equalisation of the two forces, where all the power of one is used against the power of the other. It is unavoidable. Essentially at this point, relative to the rest of what is fundamental, then time stands still. The further away from this central point, the more instantaneous time is, right up to the forces in their pure, non-converged and eternal "outside of time" state.
Space is the ever present first effect of time standing still. Note that by first I really mean that if one was to magnify each successive part within a part, one would eventually get to space itself, not that there is a universal beginning or ending. [there would be sub-universe big bangs though - as things cause space to bend, then this causes bubbles, which could be sub universes, bubbles can burst]
The form of a thing, is the manner in which its forces have shaped space, the manner in which the non-perfectly converged forces have changed relative to the central timelessness of space.
Expansion and contraction, as observed through things, is the dualistic representation of the shaping of space over time. The speed in which this occurs is relative to the ratio of the two forces, a higher ratio of expansion always causes faster and bigger, while a low ratio causes slower and smaller. That’s at the lower levels of structural existence at least, the different way in which parts can be relative to each other structurally causes variations in the mass/area of the things we see.
While we cannot observe these forces as themselves, we can observe what they cause. Space is the initial caused thing, and time is the manner in which the same causal action has never not been, nor will never not be, continuously doing what they do - being causal powers of a dualistic expansionary and contracting kind.
These forces being the "by necessity" totality, expand and contract within the totality of their convergence. They cannot expand and contract outside of this totality, as without there existence there is no there.
By necessity, I mean that as one cannot exist without the other in "everything we observe", as in when something expands something(s) else must contract and vice versa. It is a logical necessity, a fundamental necessity of reality, that is something observable about reality.
E-Mc2. Things are made of power. Power is what is inherent in things. Power is what a thing is caused to do. The more something is divided the more expansive it is. It has more surface area, and thus to remain in balance with its surroundings it must "push space out" to a greater degree, than when held together as the previously undivided thing.
The undivided thing has a greater degree of internal boundedness. Internal bonding is twofold, firstly each part of the thing, has a centre of self-gravity, which is the contracting force. Without resistance these centres would collapse together, as occurs with black holes, however they are constrained from doing so, as at the same time the expansionary force that surrounds each particle, is pushing each other centre away.
Things of mass though are where the contracting force is dominant, and is in a continual state of slow overall compression, which in turn causes atomic and sub-atomic structures to decay more rapidly. The heavier the chemical structure a thing consists of, and the more mass a thing has, the greater the strength of the contracting force relative to the expansionary force, and the faster internal structures will collapse together, expelling radiations like light.
In the action of decay, the released expansionary force causes a domino trickle, in that although the action of expansion results in spatial expansion, the effect on the contracting force is the opposite. In a comparative sense, it strengthens the power of the contracting force relative to other structures nearby, it has more available power to draw inwards, as the resistance or interference of the opposing expansionary force has decreased as it expanded.
Why do the two forces exist at all?
One can look at that question another way. That there is some sort of Existence is undeniable. This existence and whatever causes it, and whatever it causes, thus becomes the totality of all there is.
The "existence" of nothingness as an entity of reality, is a different can of worms, it's something I just cannot logically believe is possible. I see no reason to abandon the concept of cause and effect, and using this it is not logically possible for nothingness to be caused. Something that is not caused cannot exist, in any form, finite or infinite.
The totality does not expand into nothingness, nor did it originate from same.
Of course, sticking to causes and effect, then the two forces must exist because they are caused to exist. In their case however, their cause is outside of time, meaning it exists permanently. There must however still be a Why? that underlies this.
It is to do with the nature of time itself. Even the two forces, "to actualise", require time. A cause is something that exists over time. Time then is even more fundamental than the forces. There is a form of nothingness I can imagine could not possibly exist, that would be completely non-causal. If time stood still, there would be nothing. I mean this literally, even as an impossible observer of the effect, without causes there would be no relativity of any kind and without relativity everything is just not there.
The fundamental forces are thus a reflection of what time really is.
Time might just be the pulse between nothingness as an impossibility and existence as a reality. The expansionary force can never expand to be the totality of reality, and the contracting force can never contract to be the impossibility of nothingness. Putting this in the context of time, then time becomes the inbetweenness between the dual impossibilities of nothingness and absolute fullness (of one singular thing). There may be no "static-totality of existence" - which after all as a concept doesn’t make sense in all possible ways - but there may be a fluctuation in between as "reality" rebounds from the non-dualistic absolute states, that can never be caused to exist, these states being total fullness (of one kind) and total nothingness.
The beauty of space is that it is a dimensionless domain of existence.
Just because something is dimensionless, does not mean that it does not exist. In fact only because it is dimensionless, can dimensions be caused to exist in things. That’s what space does.
Space is absence of the boundaries of dimensions, and is thus infinite. In being infinite this means it IS all things.
Any thing is bounded, though only in a fashion, as it remains interconnected and caused, by that which it is not. Things have form of self-boundedness because the pattern of that thing competes with the patterns of other things.
Space does not have this form of boundary. Space is infinitely pliable. It has no internal structure. It has no self-existence, except in terms of the existence caused by it being different in one aspect to that which causes it, to that which causes the effect. Space is simply the necessary outcome of there being two fundamental opposites. Two opposites that cannot be separated from each other as they are dependent on each for their very existence, and at this fundamental level, they don’t exist spatially anyway. So although they are opposite they are also completely converged.
In being both opposite and converged there exists an inbetweenness, where one flows into the other. Most importantly though, a third pure entity is created, or more accurately is always in existence. It could be said that each point in the spectrum of convergence is a pure entity, in that it will be some part more expansionary than contracting and vice versa, but the problem is that there are no such "points" and in what is converging being fundamentally unequal, they are in a continuous state of ratio change. There is however a point where convergence of the two forces results in perfect equalisation of the two forces, where all the power of one is used against the power of the other. It is unavoidable. Essentially at this point, relative to the rest of what is fundamental, then time stands still. The further away from this central point, the more instantaneous time is, right up to the forces in their pure, non-converged and eternal "outside of time" state.
Space is the ever present first effect of time standing still. Note that by first I really mean that if one was to magnify each successive part within a part, one would eventually get to space itself, not that there is a universal beginning or ending. [there would be sub-universe big bangs though - as things cause space to bend, then this causes bubbles, which could be sub universes, bubbles can burst]
The form of a thing, is the manner in which its forces have shaped space, the manner in which the non-perfectly converged forces have changed relative to the central timelessness of space.
Expansion and contraction, as observed through things, is the dualistic representation of the shaping of space over time. The speed in which this occurs is relative to the ratio of the two forces, a higher ratio of expansion always causes faster and bigger, while a low ratio causes slower and smaller. That’s at the lower levels of structural existence at least, the different way in which parts can be relative to each other structurally causes variations in the mass/area of the things we see.
While we cannot observe these forces as themselves, we can observe what they cause. Space is the initial caused thing, and time is the manner in which the same causal action has never not been, nor will never not be, continuously doing what they do - being causal powers of a dualistic expansionary and contracting kind.
These forces being the "by necessity" totality, expand and contract within the totality of their convergence. They cannot expand and contract outside of this totality, as without there existence there is no there.
By necessity, I mean that as one cannot exist without the other in "everything we observe", as in when something expands something(s) else must contract and vice versa. It is a logical necessity, a fundamental necessity of reality, that is something observable about reality.
E-Mc2. Things are made of power. Power is what is inherent in things. Power is what a thing is caused to do. The more something is divided the more expansive it is. It has more surface area, and thus to remain in balance with its surroundings it must "push space out" to a greater degree, than when held together as the previously undivided thing.
The undivided thing has a greater degree of internal boundedness. Internal bonding is twofold, firstly each part of the thing, has a centre of self-gravity, which is the contracting force. Without resistance these centres would collapse together, as occurs with black holes, however they are constrained from doing so, as at the same time the expansionary force that surrounds each particle, is pushing each other centre away.
Things of mass though are where the contracting force is dominant, and is in a continual state of slow overall compression, which in turn causes atomic and sub-atomic structures to decay more rapidly. The heavier the chemical structure a thing consists of, and the more mass a thing has, the greater the strength of the contracting force relative to the expansionary force, and the faster internal structures will collapse together, expelling radiations like light.
In the action of decay, the released expansionary force causes a domino trickle, in that although the action of expansion results in spatial expansion, the effect on the contracting force is the opposite. In a comparative sense, it strengthens the power of the contracting force relative to other structures nearby, it has more available power to draw inwards, as the resistance or interference of the opposing expansionary force has decreased as it expanded.
Why do the two forces exist at all?
One can look at that question another way. That there is some sort of Existence is undeniable. This existence and whatever causes it, and whatever it causes, thus becomes the totality of all there is.
The "existence" of nothingness as an entity of reality, is a different can of worms, it's something I just cannot logically believe is possible. I see no reason to abandon the concept of cause and effect, and using this it is not logically possible for nothingness to be caused. Something that is not caused cannot exist, in any form, finite or infinite.
The totality does not expand into nothingness, nor did it originate from same.
Of course, sticking to causes and effect, then the two forces must exist because they are caused to exist. In their case however, their cause is outside of time, meaning it exists permanently. There must however still be a Why? that underlies this.
It is to do with the nature of time itself. Even the two forces, "to actualise", require time. A cause is something that exists over time. Time then is even more fundamental than the forces. There is a form of nothingness I can imagine could not possibly exist, that would be completely non-causal. If time stood still, there would be nothing. I mean this literally, even as an impossible observer of the effect, without causes there would be no relativity of any kind and without relativity everything is just not there.
The fundamental forces are thus a reflection of what time really is.
Time might just be the pulse between nothingness as an impossibility and existence as a reality. The expansionary force can never expand to be the totality of reality, and the contracting force can never contract to be the impossibility of nothingness. Putting this in the context of time, then time becomes the inbetweenness between the dual impossibilities of nothingness and absolute fullness (of one singular thing). There may be no "static-totality of existence" - which after all as a concept doesn’t make sense in all possible ways - but there may be a fluctuation in between as "reality" rebounds from the non-dualistic absolute states, that can never be caused to exist, these states being total fullness (of one kind) and total nothingness.
Re: Surfer dude stuns physicists with theory of everything
I want to see him explain, how he came up with that one... to FDA... O_o lol
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Re: Surfer dude stuns physicists with theory of everything
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Exceptionally_Simple_Theory_of_EverythingPincho Paxton wrote:Way too complex. God is probably more likely than this. Gravity is easy to fit into a model of everything without such a complex mess.
Here is my simple take on this.
Universe is geometric. All atoms are expanding (growing)at universal atomic expansion rate from within. (Like your bubbles)
As they expand they follow the fractal pattern. 1 --> 1+1 = 2 --> 1+2 = 3 --> 2 + 3 = 5
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:E8_graph.svg
Since everything is relative, we can not observe/judge the speed of this growth directly, as two planes going at the same speed, can not judge each others speed,(Similar to how you can not mesure size of something that is growing with the same speed as the ruller you are mesuring it against) but we can judge it in relation to shift of gravity direction if those two planes made 90 degree turn.
Same deal with the gravity. Imagine two balls/balloons, hanging near each other. One huge one and other one small one.
Both are expanding at same rate... from point of view of the baloons they are staying the same size, yet the distance between them is getting smaller = i.e. it's like some magical (force) is making them to atract each other. The bigger the baloon the faster it is taking up the space = stronger observable effect on the 3d space. (or i.e. stronger the effect of magical force called gravity)
Hence magical (from point of view of Newton and Einstein etc.) force of gravity, that does not obey laws of physics that E=mc2. = i.e. Nothing can move faster than light... how can this be true for gravity, if gravity is this "magical" force that influences things quicker than light can travel?
Example: If the Sun suddently dissapiered from the sky, you would only know about it after 8seconds, as light takes 8 seconds to travel to Earth from Sun, yet do you think it would take 8 seconds for us to feel gravitational shift in our planets orbit also?
Here is interesting youtube link. Grand Unified Field Theory: Nassim Haramein Pt.1
Cubert: Hello.
Universal Translator: Bonjour!
Farnsworth: Crazy gibberish!
Cubert: Don't you have any worthwhile inventions?
Farnsworth: Why, certainly. Step over here.
[Scene: Outside Ship. The ship flies away from Earth. Cubert and Farnsworth stand on the hull near the engines.]
Farnsworth: These are the dark matter engines I invented. They allow my starship to travel between galaxies in mere hours.
Cubert: That's impossible. You can't go faster than the speed of light.
Farnsworth: Of course not. That's why scientists increased the speed of light in 2208.
Cubert: Also impossible.
[Scene: Ships Engine Room. Farnsworth admires the dark matter engines.]
Farnsworth: And what makes my engines truly remarkable is the afterburner which delivers 200% fuel efficiency.
Cubert: That's especially impossible.
Farnsworth: Not at all. It's very simple.
Cubert: Then explain it.
Farnsworth: Now that's impossible. It came to me in a dream and I forgot it in another dream.
Cubert: Your explanations are pure weapons-grade bolog-nium. It's all impossible.
Farnsworth: Nothing is impossible. Not if you can imagine it. That's what being is a scientist is all about.
Cubert: No, that's what being a magical elf is all about.
[Cut to: Ships Cockpit. An alarm beeps and a red light flashes.]
Leela: They've blown out one of our engines!
Fry: (fast) Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it! Fix it!
Leela: Only the Professor knows how to fix it. We have to wake him up.
[She grabs Farnsworth's night shirt and shakes him around. Fry blasts him with an airhorn and Bender empties a chest cabinet full of water over him.]
Fry: Try shocking him.
Bender: (shouting) Your social security cheque is late! Stuff costs more than it used to! Young people use curse words!
Fry: Damnit, we'll have to fix the engine ourself.
Leela: We can't, you bastard! No one knows how it works. It's impossible!
[Cubert comes around and puts his hand in the air.]
Cubert: Nothing is impossible. I understand how the engines work now. It came to me in a dream. [He lifts an access hatch and starts fiddling with some wires under the floor.] The engines don't move the ship at all. The ship stays where it is and the engines move the universe around it.
Bender: That's a complete load.
Cubert: Nothing's a complete load. Not if you can imagine it. That's what being a scientist is all about. Right, Professor? [Farnsworth mumbles. Cubert closes the access panel.] Let's ride!
[Cut to: Near-Death Star Landing Pad. The ships engines power up and they begin to move the universe in a flow-mo sequence lifted from The Matrix. The ship flies away, blasting the guardbots away. Near-Death Star defences fire on the ship and repeatedly miss as they makes their getaway.]
It's just a ride.