What do you think of this guy?
What do I think of him personally? I don't trust him. I think he's only gone about this far in his contemplation of things. Which means that there's a lot of unconsciousness which still controls him. This can be seen from the way he acts. It's kind of phoney.
He's come out of his little bit of contemplation with much more than many do, though...some meaning to his life. A reason to wake up each day. I think it's a nice reason...just not really a philosophical one at all.
What do you think about him, E?
He's come out of his little bit of contemplation with much more than many do, though...some meaning to his life. A reason to wake up each day. I think it's a nice reason...just not really a philosophical one at all.
What do you think about him, E?
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Elizabeth Isabelle
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I think he sounds like he's listened to too much Dr. Phil.
I guess there are a few guys who actually do love and value their children. Usually that's a trait that's thought of as being really "feminine" - but there are a lot of people who really regret procreating (both male and female). From what I've heard from people, it seems like that's one thing that you just don't know until it happens. Some people really think they want kids until they have them, and others who didn't want kids but ended up with them love their kids more than anything else in the world - and just can't stand other people's children.
As for finding something that makes it worth while to get out of bed in the morinig, I think that's generally important to the mere survival of people. If a person really doesn't want to live, sometimes they die sooner, and sometimes they just don't ever "live." Whether it's living for wisdom, or living for something shallower, it is important.
I don't think he actually contemplated anything in a philosophical sense. The importance of something to live for is usually only really understood by those who have faced death in at least one of its guises (suicidality, confrontation with individual mortality, or the living death of unconciousness) and taken a step away from that. He was given a step away when he got his kid.
Yeah, he's pretty unconcious - but maybe those are the sorts of people who should procreate. I think the conciousness he got he received as a side-effect of having a child and happening to be one of those who really loves and values his child. He seems happier than the sagely types though.
Although he had the stereotypical masculine slang, and looked like he worked out a lot, he still had a lot of what the QRS refers to as "femininity." The first thing he went on about was his hat. On one of either David or Kevin's pages, there is a quote about how women are more inclined to decorate the outside of their head than the inside - this guy kind of reminded me of that.
I think it's one more example of how for every example of unconciousness that can be illustrated by women, there is an equal example of unconciousness that can be illustrated by men.
I guess there are a few guys who actually do love and value their children. Usually that's a trait that's thought of as being really "feminine" - but there are a lot of people who really regret procreating (both male and female). From what I've heard from people, it seems like that's one thing that you just don't know until it happens. Some people really think they want kids until they have them, and others who didn't want kids but ended up with them love their kids more than anything else in the world - and just can't stand other people's children.
As for finding something that makes it worth while to get out of bed in the morinig, I think that's generally important to the mere survival of people. If a person really doesn't want to live, sometimes they die sooner, and sometimes they just don't ever "live." Whether it's living for wisdom, or living for something shallower, it is important.
I don't think he actually contemplated anything in a philosophical sense. The importance of something to live for is usually only really understood by those who have faced death in at least one of its guises (suicidality, confrontation with individual mortality, or the living death of unconciousness) and taken a step away from that. He was given a step away when he got his kid.
Yeah, he's pretty unconcious - but maybe those are the sorts of people who should procreate. I think the conciousness he got he received as a side-effect of having a child and happening to be one of those who really loves and values his child. He seems happier than the sagely types though.
Although he had the stereotypical masculine slang, and looked like he worked out a lot, he still had a lot of what the QRS refers to as "femininity." The first thing he went on about was his hat. On one of either David or Kevin's pages, there is a quote about how women are more inclined to decorate the outside of their head than the inside - this guy kind of reminded me of that.
I think it's one more example of how for every example of unconciousness that can be illustrated by women, there is an equal example of unconciousness that can be illustrated by men.
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Elizabeth Isabelle
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I'm not stuck in the box, prince, and before I came to this site I was not sensitized to the masculinity/femininity:conciousness/unconciousness routine. In fact, 3 months ago, the thought never would have occurred to me that this guy's hat obsession would have any indication of femininity.
Yes, throughout my life I have been exposed to a great deal of gender-biased thinking and gender-biased people, but the conclusion I'd reached was that the gender-biased were very shallow people. It is only because the guys here do speak with intelligence about a good variety of matters that I did not totally dismiss them as idiots, and eventually tried to see what they actually meant when they were talking like backward gender-biased hicks.
I just happened across this video - which would have meant nothing to me 3 months ago, and today I see that it has a relevance to what I've encountered on this board - so I brought it here for opinions.
What do you think of this guy prince?
Yes, throughout my life I have been exposed to a great deal of gender-biased thinking and gender-biased people, but the conclusion I'd reached was that the gender-biased were very shallow people. It is only because the guys here do speak with intelligence about a good variety of matters that I did not totally dismiss them as idiots, and eventually tried to see what they actually meant when they were talking like backward gender-biased hicks.
I just happened across this video - which would have meant nothing to me 3 months ago, and today I see that it has a relevance to what I've encountered on this board - so I brought it here for opinions.
What do you think of this guy prince?
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Elizabeth Isabelle wrote: Rory & Dan,
Can either of you give me a definition of the term "generally" as it applies in the above sentiment?
Relax. It's a joke :)
Anyway, the guy in the above was pretty clearly feminine, but not necessarily for the reasons you mention. The hat thing, yes. But not necessarily his feelings for his child, I think. And what about the fact that he feels the need to turn on a camera and just babble?
But using typically male expressions isn't exactly what QRS means by masculine. A lot of the posturing and stuff that you list as possible exceptions to his femininity is actually the opposite. Attempts to maniuplate people, to show off, to gain attention to his ultimately mostly-meaningless words...
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I know - I was using "masculine" in the colliquial sense of the word in that instance. That's something else about calling it "masculine/feminine" as opposed to just "conciousness/unconciousness" or what I'd prefer "awareness/unawareness" is all the multi-meanings get confusing.Rory wrote:But using typically male expressions isn't exactly what QRS means by masculine. A lot of the posturing and stuff that you list as possible exceptions to his femininity is actually the opposite.