Honesty Confused with Meaness

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Honesty Confused with Meaness

Post by Foresta Gump »

I am on vacation staying in a household with several people--it's awkward

Terry is the head honcho of the house, yesterday everyone had a bad day due to some disrespectful and inconsiderate people.

People went to bed while a few remained in the livingroom making noise all night long until 5:00 am when the crowd left.

Terry and I didn't sleep all night long, so at 9:00 am Terry gets up from his bed and goes out to the kitchen pulls out two pots and starts banging them together creating a hell of a noise.

I laughed hysterically, the inconsiderate people who went to bed at 5 am, came rushing out of their rooms wondering what the hell all the noise was. We all got into a heated argument
I called these women inconsiderate and disrespectful bitches amongst other things, in which the next day I appologized. They made no apology what-so-ever.

My honesty was confused with being mean-spirited, I told them not to change the table around and make it look like we were the bad guys.

One of the women accepted my apology while the other woman didn't, this woman who didn't, claims to know the Bible. My next words to her will be if she wants to bring the Bible into this, then Jesus says, "if you can't forgive, then I won't forgive you either"

These inferiors are inferiors for a reason, I can't really expect them to apologize for their behavior. I thought I would set a good example by my apologizing, and since we all have to live under the same roof, then we need to all get along with each other or try at least.

This woman who refuses to accept my apology is just keeping the anger and hostility to herself festering inside her, to bad for her, I couldn't care less if she accepts my apology, it's her conscious being affected.

People are so undeveloped in the brain it's pathetic. They confuse honesty with mean-spiritness. Perhaps, I am mean-spirited in an honest way, however, it's effective!
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Can you explain this a little more clearly? I'm confused as to what you're trying to say here.
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Foresta Gump wrote:People are so undeveloped in the brain it's pathetic. They confuse honesty with mean-spiritness. Perhaps, I am mean-spirited in an honest way, however, it's effective!
Usually, I find, it's the people who think they are being honest who are the ones who confuse their own meanness with honesty. And more likely, they are not confused at all - they just want others to think they are being honest, when in reality it's simply too much trouble for them to behave tolerantly when they don't feel like it. My favorite euphemism is "People don't like it when I am blunt." Here again, they are saying that bluntness is somehow a virtue because it signifies honesty. I say, instead of being blunt, try being sharp once in a while. What goes around does indeed come around, and when it does, there's no ducking it.
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-Frosted Chimp-
Foresta Gump - I am on vacation staying in a household with several people--it's awkward.

-tomas-
Is the rest of the household on vacation, too?




-Frosted Chimp-
Terry is the head honcho of the house,

-tomas-
The one who pays the bills?




-Frosted Chimp continues-
yesterday everyone had a bad day due to some disrespectful and inconsiderate people.

-tomas-
Just whom did "everyone" constitute?




-Frosted Chimp drones on-
People went to bed while a few remained in the livingroom making noise all night long until 5:00 am when the crowd left.

-tomas-
Terry, "the head honcho" wasn't the least bit bothered by the din?




-Frosted Chimp-
Terry and I didn't sleep all night long,

-tomas-
So, what'd you two do for excitement? Or, is that a PG-Adult for, "No comment, Tomas"!




-Frosted Chimp wakes up too-
so at 9:00 am Terry gets up from his bed and goes out to the kitchen pulls out two pots and starts banging them together creating a hell of a noise.

-tomas-
The Lord works in mysterious ways...




-Frosted Chimp-
I laughed hysterically,

-tomas-
Hence, the word "hysterectomy" ..




-Frosted Chimp-
the inconsiderate people who went to bed at 5 am, came rushing out of their rooms wondering what the hell all the noise was.

-tomas-
With a woman laughing "hysterically" and the 'head honcho' being an equally rude dolt-of-a-human. The better thing would have been to make a late breakfast for all the guests, with perhaps, a smile on your faces than outright derisive laughter.




-Frosted Chimp admits-
We all got into a heated argument.

-tomas-
You mean that you didn't handle this at all well...




-Frosted Chimp-
I called these women inconsiderate and disrespectful bitches amongst other things,

-tomas-
So, the 'head honcho' and these "bitches" are his regular lot (harem) that he hangs with when you're not around?




-Frosted Chimp-
in which the next day I apologized.

-tomas-
Oh, right, better late than never.




-Frosted Chimp-
They made no apology what-so-ever.

-tomas-
Why should they? They are the 'head honchos' posse (amusement) when you are not there.




-Frosted Chimp-
My honesty was confused with being mean-spirited, I told them not to change the table around and make it look like we were the bad guys.

-tomas-
Sounds like the whole crew is a bunch of losers, including the head honcho.

Doesn't any one of you have a life, or at the very least, work for a living?

Or, is this just another flophouse setting..?




-Frosted Chimp-
One of the women accepted my apology while the other woman didn't, this woman who didn't, claims to know the Bible.

-tomas-
King James, the Roman Catholic, er, what version you referring to? There's over 600 translations by the "holy men of god" out there circulating amongst the sheeple.




-Frosted Chimp-
My next words to her will be if she wants to bring the Bible into this, then Jesus says, "if you can't forgive, then I won't forgive you either"

-tomas-
Please give me chapter, verse, and book where that is written and what version you are quoting...




-Frosted Chimp-
These inferiors are inferiors for a reason, I can't really expect them to apologize for their behavior.

-tomas-
Why should you, when someone gives a party and the wine (spirit of joy) is flowing freely - who wants to be waken up with noise 'stead of the smell of steak and eggs sizzling in the fry pan?




-Frosted Chimp-
I thought I would set a good example by my apologizing, and since we all have to live under the same roof, then we need to all get along with each other or try at least.

-tomas-
You utterly failed all the Good Samaritan tests.




-Frosted Chimp-
This woman who refuses to accept my apology is just keeping the anger and hostility to herself festering inside her,

-tomas-
Actually, the reverse is true.




-Frosted Chimp-
too bad for her, I couldn't care less if she accepts my apology, it's her conscious being affected.

-tomas-
If only you had served them breakfast in bed...

But no, you had to play the bitch at your base level.




-Frosted Chimp-
People are so undeveloped in the brain it's pathetic. They confuse honesty with mean-spiritness. Perhaps, I am mean-spirited in an honest way, however, it's effective!

-tomas-
Sure. Two workers in the field. One worker gets carried away with the cares of this world. The other, keeps working for Enlightenment.

Donna, keep beating on those pots and pans - the awl was placed in your ear years ago :-(




PS - I'll have those eggs easy over, please.
The steak, medium well.
Hold the orange juice.
Coffee with no sugar, but cream please.


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Edited for two misspellings and an unnecessary comma.


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Post by Foresta Gump »

804, what part are you confused with?

Inconsiderate disrespectful people being extremely noisy all night long!

I called them inconsiderate disrespectful bitches.

I guess this says I'm disrespectful too, as I've lowered myself to their level by name calling, so my goodness is tainted too!

I was deprived of my sleep all night, I reacted from this state of being. Am I responsible for my outburst, considering sleep deprivation? Was I justified in name calling, or should I have been tolerant, alloting them to a repeat performance?

Perhaps a meeting around the kitchen table should have ensued, rather than the name calling.

I appologized to both of these women for the name calling reminding them that's all I'm apologizing for, that they were being disrespectful and inconsiderate, I basically apologized for calling them bitches, the disrespect and inconsideration on their part was truth.

I do not consider myself mean-spirited, but others might because of their confusing truth with mean-spiritness.
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Tomas leads me to believe that you don't have a good track record here in Dodge, but I like to give people benefit of the doubt. With that said, I still don't find what you posted about an egregious enough offense to come to us about.

Here is how I interpreted your post: You're on vacation with a group of friends or acquaintances, and the majority of your group decided to stay up all night and party. You and the head of the household, who I'm assuming is the owner of the home(?) decide to stay to yourselves for whatever reason.

What I don't understand though, is your need to be so childish afterward. It just doesn't seem like a big deal to me, especially to be so upset as to not only call names, but to make a big flounce about it on the Internets as well. It's just creating drama and the whole thing seems very high school.
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Post by Foresta Gump »

Tomas, you've got it all figured out reasonably I admit. I was in the wrong, however they were too! They were being inconsiderate, and disrespectful, but we both could have handled it better. These people could have went to the basement and partied if they'd had the brains to think with.

And Terry is no loser, he makes $120.000 a year, and I'm no loser either, we just could have handled it better, and we don't have that kind of excitement you mention.

And yes, it's in the Bible, I believe in the King James version, I will find it for you and let you know. It's not exactly the words I used, but it means the same thing.

These inconsiderate people took advantage of us good samaritans, they are partiers, we are not!

The two women had several people over, they both pay rent here, so they are entitled to party, however, they could have kept the noise level down or taken their party downstairs!

The booze is to blame.

Everything is fine now, both women have accepted my apology, but shouldn't they have apologized to us too?
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804, my past track record is just that, so leave it there, in the past! This is now, why should I be constantly reminded of my past person? This is not fair for any intelligent person to do.
This is not fair period, it's like saying that a person never changes. And the persons who constantly remind a person of their past feels inadequate about themselves.

I have grown from my past!

And yes, I believe I was childish and could have handled this situation better, however, I was calm cool and collected when I called these women bitches, there was no animosity or anger on my part, at least I didn't sound angry when I said these words to them. Not that that makes any difference. They may have been shocked that I handled it without getting angry.

And it was quite humorous the way Terry handled it with banging the pots together, they got a little taste of sleep deprivation too!

Oh, and incidently Terry has an extremely high I.Q believe it!
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These inconsiderate people took advantage of us good samaritans, they are partiers, we are not!

The two women had several people over, they both pay rent here, so they are entitled to party, however, they could have kept the noise level down or taken their party downstairs!
Did either you or Terry ask these pithy bitches to tone it down, or to take it elsewhere? Seeing as though you're on vacation and they're paying part of the rent, I would put you in the wrong before I would them.
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Foresta Gump wrote:Terry is no loser, he makes $120,000 a year
If he keeps the company of a person who thinks that making a lot of money means you're not a loser, then he's a loser.
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-Frosty-
Foresta Gump - Tomas, you've got it all figured out reasonably I admit.

-tomas-
If I'd grown up anywhere but Dakota Territory, all bets would be off. No riff-raff hang here in the winters 'cept the fools who enlist in the Air Force and are stationed at some of the remote bases in the tri-state area.




-Frosty-
I was in the wrong, however they were too!

-tomas-
They threw the party, you were simply a guest of another and I'd just gone with the flow and rested up the next morning with a cat-nap. There's always another day to pitch a tent in the backyard with Terry and whomever else cares to join round the campfire roasting chestnuts and marshmallows watching the Perseids meteor showers...



-Frosty-
They were being inconsiderate, and disrespectful, but we both could have handled it better.

-toas-
Get over it already.




-Frosty-
These people could have went to the basement and partied if they'd had the brains to think with.

-tomas-
Oh? Now a basement enters the picture. Dang, this plot thickens once again. Does this mansion have a penthouse you aren't telling us about?




-Frosty-
And Terry is no loser, he makes $120.000 a year,

-tomas-
Say, could he spare Ryan $5.55 a day for like 10 years? He'll promise to stay in your basement (and/or) your backyard for days at a time. He'll shower under the rain gutters when it rains.




-Frosty-
and I'm no loser either,

-tomas-
Get off your high-horse, Donna. We all are!




-Frosty-
we just could have handled it better,

-tomas-
We..? Terry had every right to do what he did. What with $120K a year, why, he'd have gone to the nearest Hilton hotel and spent the night (what time is checkout, 11am)?




-Frosty-
and we don't have that kind of excitement you mention.

-tomas-
Hey! Wasn't Terry the chap that had seen the alien?




-Frosty-
And yes, it's in the Bible, I believe in the King James version,

-tomas-
King James also burned women witches at the stake, molested, then raped their daughters and stole the land from under their burning bodies. But, oh-yeah, he appointed "holy men of god" to oversee the rewriting of British-Israelite Masonic teaching from the Eqyptian Mysteries. Thanks, Shakespeare er, Sir Francis Bacon.




-Frosty-
I will find it for you and let you know.

-tomas-
Let's not and say you already have.




-Frosty-
It's not exactly the words I used, but it means the same thing.

-tomas-
The names were changed to protect the innocent.




-Frosty-
These inconsiderate people took advantage of us good samaritans, they are partiers, we are not!

-tomas-
He who is without sin .. cast the first stone.




-Frosty-
The two women had several people over, they both pay rent here, so they are entitled to party,

-tomas-
Gee, you musta had a sheltered upbringing...




-Frost-
however, they could have kept the noise level down or taken their party downstairs!

-tomas-
What you got in Edmonton, one week of spring, ten weeks of summer, one week of fall, and nine months of winter?




-Frosty-
The booze is to blame.

-tomas-
God made grass, man made booze, who do you trust?




-Frosty-
Everything is fine now,

-tomas-
All is fair in love and war.




-Frosty-
both women have accepted my apology,

-tomas-
Because they can't wait for you to leave!




-Frosty-
but shouldn't they have apologized to us too?

-tomas-
You still aren't getting it. Perhaps, just perhaps, they approached Terry - when you weren't hovering around - and talked about it from their (the renters) point of view.

Just let it go.





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Aliens?

Please tell me you mean the kind that sells fruit on the side of the highway and cleans hotel rooms.
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This is of course why they INVENTED 12-guage pump-action shotguns. You're an American, Foresta, why didn't you solve this American style?!?
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He's no loser Kevin, because he chose me as a friend, he's a better person for knowing me.

He's no loser period! He gets what he wants from life and nothing or anyone can stop him!

It's not his money worth that attracts me to him, and it's not his inability to express himself, but it's because he is extremely resourceful and knows how to get from life what he wants.

I'm his leading lady friend, the queen of all the bitches and they all know it!

I believe it was me who instigated the whole senario, he just reacted from my stating they were inconsiderate disrespectful bitches.
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-Deaf & Dumb writes-
Alex Jacob wrote:This is of course why they INVENTED 12-guage pump-action shotguns. You're an American, Foresta, why didn't you solve this American style?!?

She's Canadian.


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804 wrote:Aliens?

Please tell me you mean the kind that sells fruit on the side of the highway and cleans hotel rooms.
I can't recall if she was going by Donna Thompson, or some other alias-manifestation.

She claims that during some sort of electrical storm, her and a boy-friend/ex-husband whatever had an "alien" enter the bedroom they were "residing" in. She describes the alien's long, bony fingers in some detail. Whether they were airlifted to some spaceship I can't recall..

Whether it's true or not isn't for me to say. It's her consciousness and I'm not about to rain on her parade...



Edited for one misspelling :-|

"describes"
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Oh dear God, no.

You're one of those women who slap 'Queen Princess Bitchpants' or 'Give me the coffee and nobody dies' bumper stickers on your car, aren't you?
She claims that during some sort of electrical storm, her and a boy-friend/ex-husband whatever had an "alien" enter the bedroom they were "residing" in.
If you heard a faint crack just now, it was me slamming my head against the desk in an emotional slurry of frustration and disbelief. No worries.
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804 wrote:Oh dear God, no.

You're one of those women who slap 'Queen Princess Bitchpants' or 'Give me the coffee and nobody dies' bumper stickers on your car, aren't you?
She claims that during some sort of electrical storm, her and a boy-friend/ex-husband whatever had an "alien" enter the bedroom they were "residing" in.
If you heard a faint crack just now, it was me slamming my head against the desk in an emotional slurry of frustration and disbelief. No worries.

Found it.

It's thread name is "Pi" authored by sevens.

Top of page 2.

She goes by creativegal in that thread.

NOTE: she had edited it.


On Genius Forum, the lord works in mysterious ways...

(or were the bony fingers of the alien guiding me?)




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Hello everyone in concern

I just wrote the best letters twice today and lost both of them. I realize how I lost them, time expired, I should have logged out first, then logged in. Now I know!

I spoke of my two alien visits. Same story, because the truth never changes only the words do!

I'm disappointed, because I wrote my hearts content in both letters revealing much.

In one letter I spoke of when I win BIG MONEY and I will, I would like to visit Australia. I would love to meet all of these people with expenses all paid.

David Quinn
Kevin Solway
Dan Rowden
Kelly Jones
Zarathustra
Dave Toast
Van Die Bert, did I get your name correct, I have a feeling I'm wrong.
Ryan Rudolph
and Tomas

The others I don't know.

This is my dream, dreams do come true with persistence of thought, it's like you 'will' the dream to come true, it's truth!

It would be my greatest pleasure to have the opportunity to meet with all of you I mentioned, for you all are gifted with great developed minds.

Some of you at higher levels than others, but highly gifted just the same.

I will make another attempt to relay my two alien experiences once again tomorrow. I've lost all three attempts, including my attempt to relay this truth to the Canadian Federation of Poets. I also tried to relay my experience on Canada's Governor General's site Michaelle Jean where I write quite frequently, and they publish my work to the net and in the Capital of Canada which is Ottawa Quebec, a french city.

The truth never changes, only the words do!
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Tomas wrote:.



-Deaf & Dumb writes-
Alex Jacob wrote:This is of course why they INVENTED 12-guage pump-action shotguns. You're an American, Foresta, why didn't you solve this American style?!?

She's Canadian.


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Tomas - Canadians are Americans...
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Can someone open a window? It smells a little schizophrenic in here.

Remember: Schizophrenia is when the voices come from the outside, and Dissociative Personality Disorder is when they're from inside.
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brokenhead wrote:
Tomas wrote:.



-Deaf & Dumb writes-
Alex Jacob wrote:This is of course why they INVENTED 12-guage pump-action shotguns. You're an American, Foresta, why didn't you solve this American style?!?

She's Canadian.


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Tomas - Canadians are Americans...

You dumb nut :-)

Tell that to the French-Canadians (North Americans).

"american" is a French word "La-Merican"


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Who ya talking about 804?

I was told by my Doctor that I don't have schitzophrenia, besides psychiatrists are bullshit artists. Above all, I know more than they do if I have schitzophrenia or not.

I don't hear or see things, but I do have an over imagination and am very dramatic. Essentially, I'm taking a drug for schitzo affective disorder, which they say is a mood disorder.

Bull shit to the psychiatry field, these idiots have addicted me to their so-called drugs, now I have to continue this drug for a lifetime because of addiction.

And I'm not handicapped in any way either!

These idiots confused high intelligence for their made-up psychiatric illnesses which is pure bullshit!

I realize I'm a guinea pig for the medical field, and so is everyone else!
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Foresta Gump wrote:I was told by my Doctor that I don't have schitzophrenia, besides psychiatrists are bullshit artists. Above all, I know more than they do if I have schitzophrenia or not.
"Schizo-affective schizophrenics exhibit the behavioral excesses of both schizophrenia and affective disorder. The patient may be profoundly depressed, or else manic and grandiose. He expresses delusional ideas or other behaviors which clearly reflect thought disorders." [Harris]
I don't hear or see things, but I do have an over imagination and am very dramatic.
I've rarely heard of schizophrenia (or similar brain disorders) not being accompanied by Borderline Personality Disorder.
Essentially, I'm taking a drug for schitzo affective disorder, which they say is a mood disorder. Bull shit to the psychiatry field, these idiots have addicted me to their so-called drugs, now I have to continue this drug for a lifetime because of addiction.

"The delusions of the schizophrenic occupy much of his time and energy. He must focus his efforts upon proving their truth and upon protecting himself from the fantasied consequences of these mis-beliefs."
[Harris]
These idiots confused high intelligence for their made-up psychiatric illnesses which is pure bullshit!

I realize I'm a guinea pig for the medical field, and so is everyone else!
"He must focus his efforts upon proving their truth and upon protecting himself from the fantasied consequences of these mis-beliefs." [Harris]

I mean, it's not like you're arguing yourself to someone dedicating their life to psychiatry or anything. Don't worry yourself over the fact that you're basically providing me with line after line of sweet, sweet delusional babble to amuse me with. It's not like I'm analyzing you or anything.

...But if I was, you'd make a killer thesis.
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No kidding, you think it would make a killer thesis, why?
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