Rewrite of Rene Descartes

Discussion of the nature of Ultimate Reality and the path to Enlightenment.
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Rewrite of Rene Descartes

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From the Masculine and Feminine Psychology thread

Kevin wrote:
No. Ultimately all we have to deal with are thoughts.
Cory wrote:
How is sensation/feeling anymore imagined then our thoughts?
Many years ago when I first learned to meditate I decided to rewrite the second chapter of Rene Descartes “Meditation on First Philosophy”. If you have not read this chapter then what I am about to post will not make much sense. But I think it is an interesting time capsule of the path that led me to my current state. I also think it pertains to the discourse in the Masculine and Feminine Psychology thread.
Meditation Two: Concerning the Nature of the Human Mind: That It Is Lesser Known.

“Yesterdays meditation has thrown me into such doubts that I can no longer ignore them, yet I fail to see how they are to be resolved… I will accomplish this by putting aside everything that admits of the least doubt, as if I had discovered it to be completely false. I will stay on this course until I know something certain, or, if nothing else, until I at least know for certain that nothing is certain.”
As I stated in my last meditation, “it is a mark of prudence never to place our complete trust in those who have deceived us even once.” So, if I can’t trust the existence of my senses or my body, than what can I trust for certain? Before I embarked on these meditations the thought of a body with senses was eminent. So, am I the author of this thought, or is it being manipulated by some evil genius?
I will now shut my eyes, close up my ears, and meditate on my thoughts. As I meditate I realize that there are several different thoughts of contradicting personalities. I had already posited that I am not like the insane, whose brains are impaired by such an unrelenting vapor of black bile that they steadfastly insist that they have multiple personalities and are in fact, more than one person. So why do I have so many conflicting thoughts? I realize that one thought wants to act on impulse, when another thought analyzes that impulse, and yet another thought acts as a conscience to deface that impulse. I realize that these thoughts are constantly contradicting each other and arguing over every perception and action. So which one of these thoughts is in fact mine? Do I have control over these thoughts?
Upon further meditation I realize that sometimes when I pray, uncontrollable thoughts of various acts of sinning jump into my head and therefore into my prayer. When I pray to a holy god, I expect my thoughts to be pure; but in a mocking fashion thoughts of sex and violence plunge into my consciousness, against my own will. In fact, as I am writing this very sentence, there are other thoughts in my head willing me to write other things. Therefore, I conclude that I cannot control these thoughts. Since these thoughts are of contradicting nature, I cannot claim to be their sole author.
If my thoughts are playing tricks on me, how do I know that they are not tricking me into thinking that I exist, and therefore tricking me into thinking that I think? Maybe some other being of evil genius is controlling my thoughts, to make me think that I exist, when in fact I do not exist. Maybe this “thing” also makes me think that I am thinking, when in fact they are thinking for me. So I cannot deduce that “I exist”, I can only deduce that “something” exists. Neither can I deduce what that something is, because judging what you don’t understand subjects you to error. So from now on when I use the term “I”, I will keep in mind that I might not exist, but that “something” exists.
I know that my creativity comes when I am not thinking; but when I am in a “zone” of unconscious creative production. As a cinematographer, I have discovered that my best work is done not when I over-analyze and explore thoughts, but when I shut down my mind and let my creative unconscious take over. So where is this creativity coming from, if it is not coming from my thoughts? I could posit into the “collective unconscious” theory of Carl Jung, but I do not know if “I” exist, so how can I speculate that Carl Jung exists.
My brain is like a hamster wheel that constantly churns out conflicting thoughts and analyses. It is rare that I am ever not thinking, and I sometimes feel trapped inside my own uncontrollable thoughts (If these thoughts are even mine). I even find it difficult to sleep some nights, because this hamster wheel won’t allow me enough peace to fall asleep. What would happen if I shut off this hamster wheel? If I stopped thinking would “I” or that “something” cease to exist? If so than what would exist?
So, “I will now shut my eyes, stop up my ears, and withdraw all my senses.” I will blot out all of my thoughts, leaving nothing but my breath. Upon doing this I find that it is extremely difficult to quiet all of my thoughts; and when I successfully do so, seconds seem like hours. When I return to my thinking consciousness, I feel more relaxed and at peace than I did before. My thoughts seem more under my control, and less aimlessly churning. Upon analyzing the sensation of non-thinking, I come to speculate that I did not cease to exist, because the sensation of existence was still prevalent. My existence felt like it was of a completely different energy plane, than that of my thinking consciousness. I was able to experience this energy, because I prevented my thoughts from deceiving me.
I do not understand this energy, and therefore cannot make a judgment as to what it is. I cannot be certain: that I am the owner of this energy, or that it is the property of someone else, or that it belongs to a unified collective. I can only speculate that it does in fact exist. I can also speculate that the more I engage in this form of meditation, the more likely that I will understand this “other” energy. If nothing else, this form of meditation will help me to better control and organize my thinking consciousness (if in fact it is mine).
*** All quotations are from Rene Descartes “Meditations on First Philosophy”
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Noooooo waaaaaaay....Descartes was not a cinematographer!
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he was dude! I swear.
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I had to preserve the integrity of the original. Notice the grammatical use of “than” as opposed to “then”.
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AlyOshA wrote:I had to preserve the integrity of the original. Notice the grammatical use of “than” as opposed to “then”.
The line between rational and irrational thought is drawn based on personal integrity. The labeling of creative and non-creative thought is a matter of function. The preservation of continuity (logic) is what determines and accelerates the creative process. By manipulating a theoretical "than" to a theoretical "then," you potentially create a new context for creative manipulation. It seems that what we find integral ("integral morality"), is what we determine to create, or propagate into existence.

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Let me clarify, using “than” was not an intentional/conscious grammatical misuse. It was a grammatical error that I commonly made 10 years ago. Now that I have honed my grammatical skills I can see those details more clearly, but in order to preserve the “time capsule” in its original state, I left them in. Am I misunderstanding you or do you think I somehow intentionally meant to say “than” instead of “then”? If so that would be some very strange abstract/poetical kind reasoning, one that I can’t fathom how to justify.
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AlyOshA wrote:Am I misunderstanding you or do you think I somehow intentionally meant to say “than” instead of “then”? If so that would be some very strange abstract/poetical kind reasoning, one that I can’t fathom how to justify.
I meant to imply that "a than" to "a then" is the act of creativity itself - transforming one creative impulse into another.

Wasn't very creative, or clear.

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When you enter these meditative states, how are they similar to your creative process?

I just reworked my previous post. Hopefully it's a little clearer.
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No I think you were clear. It was not an elementary observation and therefore required more concentration and pondering on my end.

Changing “than” to “then” is a creative decision, but it is a different type of creative process. Grammar is a set of rules that we have invented for the English language. They are set in stone and more function as a rigid framework for communication. I generally try to consciously follow these rules unless I decide to consciously break them for a motivated/justifiable rationale. But in the creative process you must first shut off that part of your brain that tries censor/label and follow rigid rules and frameworks. So when you write creatively you enter a zone of uncensored, un-rational, unadulterated creative emergence where ideas flow freely from that creative unconscious. After they have flowed freely you then use your rational censor to cut out, label, edit, and polish your work to its desired usability. They are different mental functions and therefore different types of creative processes.

The meditative states and the creative process are different in what they explore. The creative process is a physically active/productive process that explores human expression and universal connectedness. In meditative states you cultivate stillness and explore: either the nature of your mind/consciousness, the workings of your life force/chi/soul, or the nature of the eternal/void. But similarly to the creative process you need to return to the average cognitive functioning of your rational mind in order to analyze, label, edit, distinguish these states and observations. They work hand in hand (both being equally necessary).
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