Draft Two of Something

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Draft Two of Something

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The "Women talk more than men thread" lead me down a train of thought that ended with me fleshing out the semi-coherent thoughts I had a year and a half ago, during my prodrome, before ending up in a psyche ward. When I pieced the idea together, I was surprised that it remains as convincing (for me, at least) as it did all that time ago; the difference is now I have the tools to express it meaningfully. I'm going to paste my second draft here in a chunk, since it's not so excessively long that it needs me to blog it somewhere.

Sorry for the verbosity. I haven't pared down the useless words yet.
While pondering the implications of differences between male and female psychology, I was reminded of the motions of certain organs within the body, and how they maintain health throughout the organism by constantly working in two opposing wise: first, by acting in a wholly positive manner; and second, by acting in a wholly negative fashion. When either positive or negative is in excess, the opposing function speeds up, and balances out the entire system. This entire process leads to a state known as dynamic equilibrium, whereby the system is either too positive and working negatively, or two negative, and working positively, but the system averages out to perfect health.

I was reminded of this process, but I realized that male and female psychology is outward-facing, and functions so as to create a state of dynamic disequilibrium with the environment. It is like two builders, with one always building horizontally, and the other always building vertically. In such a fashion, both always build outward, and so long as some semblance of balance is maintained, there will be constant growth in all directions. However, in dynamic disequilibrium, it is important that no equilibrium is ever reached, or else the process grinds to a halt and one half begins to work in a viral frenzy. Dynamic disequilibrium, while being conducive to the constant unconscious growth of civilization, requires perpetual inequality.

This state of affairs, in particular the difference in psychology, implies total psychological differentiation: by total, I mean both completely pervasive in all aspects of the psyche, and practically invisible to the psyche (or else consciousness would immediately, and hastily, destroy the very process that lead to its creation). This means that, among other things, there are major concepts that are interpreted in radically different ways by the sexes in such a fashion that this difference will be denied -- if not remain unseen. I suggest for candicacy as a major conceptual disparity the concept of the Infinite, that very concept that leads many men to philosophy and science, and whose improper appreciation makes the entire apparatus of science seem superfluous and on equal ground to arts and religion (for the concept of infinite scientific discovery would be meaningless, in much the same way that infinite artistic or religious discovery is absurd).

If my assumptions to this point have been true, and this candidate is an accurate one, this would mean that roughly half the species has the capacity to understand the Infinite, whereas the other half barely has the potential at all.

Ethically, one may say that women should start thinking like men, since an understanding of the Infinite profoundly assists the individual. However, this position fails to consider the social implications: our species has become this powerful precisely because such an inequality exists. Women, therefore, are destined for an inferior understanding of reality.

But another position is tenable: social growth is near-viral and perpetually unequal. Dynamic disequilibrium is wholly unconscious, and although of great assistance to dominance over a planet, dangerous if perpetuated forever. It may be the best mindless Nature can do, but humanity can do better. Conscious restraint, assisted by intelligent planning, is superior in many respects. A third metaphor will be useful here, to explain what sort of restraint may be necessary:

A patient enters a doctor's office, complaining that one eye is much stronger than the other. What is his treatment? Why, the doctor covers the stronger eye, so that the weaker eye may strengthen in the meantime. Similarly, humankind must restrain any superiority that men have over women, until women have become as strong-minded as men.
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Well, if "understanding the infinite" pertains to awakening, then it is for everyone and has nothing to do with thought, except that the understanding or insight happens in the interstitial void.
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Re: Draft Two of Something

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Trevor,

How much sleep have you been getting lately? It might be time to track an accurate log of about what time you actually fall asleep, what time you wake up, and the intervals that you are awake between the time you go to bed and the time you get up (just to check and make sure you're doing okay).
Trevor Salyzyn wrote:Similarly, humankind must restrain any superiority that men have over women, until women have become as strong-minded as men.
It is not a good idea to try to dumb down any group of people. If strong minded people want to make a difference, they should dedicate some time and effort to training the weaker minded. Leavinf the weak-minded to their own devices results in Lord of the Flies situations.

Secondly (and yes I know that this board speaks in generalizations, but for purposes of countering the subconcious effects as well as explaining to new readers, I will continue to mention the exceptions ad infinitum), I know that you are aware that all men are not smarter than all women. I personally am not convinced that men are smarter than women in general.

I do know that men have been enough in control of the world outside the home long enough that it can be difficult for a female to get a fair break. I wonder if some of the perception that some people have that men are smarter than women is if really smart women figure it just isn't worth it to battle for a fair break. It would be easier to just snag a successful man and point out the benefits of having her at home to raise the kids and make life more comfortable for him. She would have to be pretty smart to convince a smart guy of that - wouldn't she?

Most smart guys don't want a dumb woman - they want one they can have an intelligent conversation with - one who can stimulate his mind in addition to his body parts. I wonder if most of the really smart women are just pretty much out of the public eye, interacting with their smart husbands and other smart wives while they raise children while living in nice homes and in nice neighborhoods - and maybe doing volunteer work at a charity or something.

Maybe there are/were smart females that you went to school with who merely kept quiet. One of the female games is to never show up a man - let him look and feel superior. I have too much of a competitive streak to play that, but it is one of the games my mother tried to teach me. Maybe some smart women listened to their mothers, and as a result, you never noticed that they were smart.

Just theories - it seems to me that American women have more of a tendency to speak up than that now - but it wasn't always like that here either.
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Trevor:
A patient enters a doctor’s office, complaining that one eye is much stronger than the other. What is his treatment? Why, the doctor covers the stronger eye, so that the weaker eye may strengthen in the meantime.


The doctor puts glasses on the guy. The lens acts as an assistant so that the eye can see as well as the strong eye. So, too, should those who are conscious assist those who have the desire to be so conscious and know that they are weak in that area. Therefore, with the assistance of one who is conscious, the unconscious willing person, may begin to become conscious. One has to crawl before one can walk.

I agree with EI, that this dismissal or dumbing down is already in place in the American school system and it needs to end, the sooner, the better.
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