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Discussion of the nature of Ultimate Reality and the path to Enlightenment.
Beingof1
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Tomas wrote:.

Pardon the lateness of responding...

-Beingof1-
I have been studying why relationships involving sex become a mutual love/hate split.

-tomas-
Mine has been going strongest for 40 plus years with no end in sight. I've not thought about cheating in all those years. When one has the best - why concern oneself with another? A mutual friend of ours has asked why I didn't seed my girlfriend's twin sister (as she has been barren during her child-bearing years) to which was replied: it would have meant that I would have the responsibility of sisters being rivals for my affections. Just doesn't equate from my line of reasoning. The girlfriend had thought about that in her early 40s when we had our last one, but put it off as her sister & mate had adopted several as their own.
Yup - competition for attention. Most women, in my experience, want what they cannot have and despise what they can have.

Most men, in my experience, are never satisfied with what they do have.
Of natural-course there are disagreements about trivial and non-trivial matters but the overall picture had been placed in motion by mutual respect from our wonderful, understanding fathers. They had both been around-the-block with multiple "girlfriends" before they settled down to marry virgins (our mothers) and that was that. We both were provided with sit-down, birds-and-bees talk, at age 13 so we were allowed to see life from a better perspective than the public school kids who we would have gotten a different slant on real life from.
I thought this would never happen to me but I am beginning to lose all faith and hope in humanities capability for truth let alone honesty. It is just about darn near impossible for me to have a single conversation(not with you) on the net, in person, or in any relationship without the lies spewing from a soul that craves to hide and yet be adored - very odd indeed.

You sound like you have the exception in a relationship.

-Beingof1-
Lack of trust becomes paramount.

-tomas-
Apocrapha -- Sirach 7:19 Do not deprive yourself of a wise
and good wife, for her charm is worth more than gold.
I have not yet found a women capable of honesty - just being real.

-Beingof1-
We cannot put our faith in another human as this will set us up to fail.

-tomas-
Sure, it's to work on every waking moment. (the devil -judgment- is in the details)
I mean, until a human realizes that dishonesty is beneath them, I will remain completely isolated from the stain of infection. I find it impossible to have an ongoing relationship (of any kind) with a person that fails to allow the light of truth to purge them from all deception. I acknowledge the frailty and pain of the revealing of the base nature but to deny reality is to shut down any healthy communication.

The funny thing is, most people that I have to deal with think I am dysfunctional in some way because I tell the truth. I am not one to be foolish with truth or hurtful. I mean, simple honesty about anything.

This is a deadly poison to the soul and the cure is bathing in the light of truth.
-Beingof1-
Where do we trust?

-tomas-
Apocrapha Sirach 6:14-17 .. A faithful friend is a sturdy shelter: he that has found one has found a treasure. There is nothing so precious as a faithful friend, and no scales can measure his excellence. A faithful friend is an elixir of life; and those who fear the Lord will find him. Whoever fears the Lord directs his friendship aright, for as he is, so is his neighbor also.

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dejavu wrote:
...if you see the face of true madness....you better be well equipped with advanced weapons (or an advanced imagination).
My imagination is fine for me, but the madness of others remains open. I had a very violent and bloody nightmare a year or so ago where I had to murder two nuts bent on killing me, one of my brothers, and my parents. The horrible thing about it is that they were quite prepared to die, and their own pain excited them.
In the end it is a question of advanced imagination but look...this world....is infused with life.
i once tried an experiment. I tried to evoke mathematical formulas in my subjective field (outside of myself like in the walls or floor). If this is the cosmic memory or whatver you want to call it..call it akasha or tripfield hahaha that i am seeing...then if i project the hologram a+b = x in the wall and it is a success...then in the future this re-appears in another wall as x = c but what striked me most when i tried it is that it is accompanied by an alien or a grey. In the end..."x" has to be specified or the brain won't know what the symbol means..it could stand for variable or "x marks the spot" or whatever or else it wouldn't be a hologram. the possibilities are endless and this field is very interesting. Symbols are carriers. If i would see demons because i read (in the past) a lot of mythology or religious mumbojumbo and... If i leave these faces alone and i condition myself with math...then demons are symbols..logical no ?...but...don't ask me where he (the grey) comes from...I read Valdemar Valerian's matrix books (afterwards) (not all of it but for reference purposes) but in the end it is a belief system...maybe a good one i don't know..like an adequate model for geniuses...but i remain skeptical...maybe this holds the true answers back...thus..the answer was wrong..but there is something...this is the key ! thinking without thinking..just waiting for the answer to come along on a moment (in the subjective luminant matrix) when you don't expect it.
That's all fine, but one could wait their lifetime away!

dejavu: You mean to say that mind-altering drugs can have permanent consequences?

Manatron: I do not doubt the fact that you know this is true.
If you are asking me if i do drugs..then i must say no hard drugs...i smoke a joint occasionaly but this is always in function of creativity and not entertainment. In the past i tried some cocaïne but the experience was not positive....it was a one-time experiment and i didn't like it.
For the rest no...no psychedelics such as LSD or other heavy shit. I did mushrooms once with my ex-girlfriend and we fucked our way to India. By this i mean i experienced the sex of an indian princess while she is not indian. Was it her or did i incarnate in some lucky servant somewhere in the past..hahahah no no...neutrosophy explains everything. My point is that i am no addict and relatively meaningful associations. This last sentence doesn't make sense and i am aware of it. Maybe i like formal logic like someone who is bad in ordinary language...in the end this is also common for logicians and mathematicians...and for addicts..its a fact. Its your choice how you will define me. If the point of your quote was "fishing drug-memories in manatron" then India is a nice place. Russia also...athletic.
But look...i used other means to get me this far and i don't believe i can equate my experiences with an ordinary LSD trip. I would not know what LSD feels like...but i can imagine it...i use brainwave entrainment...i have been using it for 5 years almost every day. The first year it won't work...but it is like a medicine....it takes a certain amount of time for the full effect. Be careful of brainwave entrainment..but..in the end it is harmless if you don't have the discipline and especially the time for meditation..me..i have all the time in the world...and just enough money to survive. Me in a factory ? hahahaha are you kidding ? ......................no i am not ;)
Time after time after time...We're all time addicts! I'm going to have to use magic!
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.....but the madness of others remains open. .....one of my brothers, and my parents. The horrible thing about it is that they were quite prepared to die, and their own pain excited them.
A dream....some phenomenon.
Imagine what would happen if our physical bodies were not incapacitated or paralyzed during sleep lol. Imagine...but not too much. Such violent dreams...they are never pleasant.

Baudrillard says:

Deep down, no one really believes they have a right to live. But this death sentence generally stays tucked away, hidden beneath the difficulty of living. If that difficulty is removed from time to time, death is suddenly there, unintelligibly.
Jean Baudrillard

Time after time after time...We're all time addicts! I'm going to have to use magic!
How does it work according to you ? Is there a secret behind numerology for example ?
i won't call it a science because of it present-day status just to make some fools happy. I equate science with intuition ? yes...but the fight stilll goes on. I don't think all those meanings assigned to numbers is the real deal. Its association with astrology and stupid fortunetellers....i really can't stand my past. The only thing that survived is a new definition of numerology in a sense. I think its a matter of acronyms and hyper-intuition and one of the most important tools if you have a good intuition. An experience of me once, and my interpretation of it:
I used the word "Swapna" which means "dreamstate" to apply what i believe is numerology.

SWAPNA (*dreamstate*)
SWAP_NA (*underscore or split*)
SWAP_N.A. (*mnemonic*)
SWAP_Neutrosophic_Algorithm (*unit mobius as 8 or hyper-intuition*)
S_WAP_Neutrosophic_Algorithm (*underscore or split*)
S_MAP_Neutrosophic_Algorithm (*inversion*)
S_Map_Neutrosophic_Algorithm (*decapitalization*)
SS_Map_Neutrosophic_Algorithm (*copy*)
S_Map_Neutrosophic_AlgorithmS (*copy to END)
5_Map_Neutrosophic_AlgorithmS (*topolog numerization*)
Map_5_Neutrosophic_AlgorithmS (*conclusion*)

Map_5_Neutrosophic_AlgorithmS (*start of module 2*)
Map_5_Neutrosophic_Algo_r_ithmS (*underscore or split*)
Map_5_Neutrosophic_Algo_r_htimS (*switch*)
Map_5_Neutrosophic_Algo_r_Smith (*turn*)
Map_5_Neutrosophic_Aglo_r_Smith (*switch*)
Map_5_Neutrosophic_olgA_r_Smith (*turn*)
Map_5_Neutrosophic_Olga_r_Smith (*transmission*)

Now look, what the hell is this ? free flight without restrictions ? And who the fuck is Olga Smith on earth ? It turned out that she is a russian woman; married....etc....but her father is a pastor so what do i have to think..that her father is praying for her very intensily and while i was in hypertrance writing that nonsense i was attracted by its energy ? am i a fucking spirit or servant her father evoked ? or maybe she is a witch and i am the telepath-robot offering services from a distance?...is there something wrong with numerology today, with me or with her ? Am i really a psychopath ? Borderline ? i don't think so.
I can almost hear classical music and trombones and horses and vitalism science...you know Newtonstyle: "Good day sir *fluits on the background* how can i be of assistance ?*phallic melody*" and i even don't knox the connection (fort knox ?). I don't think so says my intuition but things are very odd in this world indeed. i must remain skeptical and not just with imaginary numbers (the I). Algorithms = olga smith ? wtf ? is she the goddess of all computer scientists ? the secret "tap" ? or is this madness ? hahaha in the end...a thousand interpretations and ways to arrange things...patterns are everywhere and if we look them..we will find them...she now...russian...magic....my ex was russian and a witch...am i just discovering my sadness because we aren't together anymore ? a sort of projection that i am not aware of ? do i still miss her ? i don't think so but....no. absolutely not. it is 4 years ago i mean....yes...you do not miss her. Indeed we do not!
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[It's me: golf-whisperer, aka: slightly defective number. Don't know if this does or does not have relevancy but it came on the scene when chasing back Olga Smith/Russian. I don't know, but if the mystery is not, somehow, contained and expressed in numbers, then what? Consider for example: weird, almost-perfect, perfect and superperfect numbers. /*break*/ Rain, rain, falling down, all across mycelium town/ Did you did you did you see? And what should all that mean to me? Simple simple simple pi all across the diamond sky: birdsong]
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Alex T. Jacob wrote:[It's me: golf-whisperer, aka: slightly defective number. Don't know if this does or does not have relevancy but it came on the scene when chasing back Olga Smith/Russian. I don't know, but if the mystery is not, somehow, contained and expressed in numbers, then what? Consider for example: weird, almost-perfect, perfect and superperfect numbers. Rain, rain, falling down, all across mycelium town/ Did you did you did you see? And what should all that mean to me? Simple simple simple pi all across the diamond sky]
The perfection of anything is found between 0 and 1.

What do you see of perfection between 0 and 1? that is no a derivitive of human thought?

Never give power to anything a person believes is their source of strength - jufa

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[♪♪♪All I know is something like a bird within her sang,
All I know she sang a little while and then flew on,
Tell me all that you know, I'll show you snow and rain.

If you hear that same sweet song again, will you know why?
Anyone who sings a tune so sweet is passin' by,
Laugh in the sunshine, sing, cry in the dark, fly through the night.

Don't cry now, don't you cry, don't you cry anymore.
Sleep in the stars, don't you cry, dry your eyes on the wind.

All I know is something like a bird within her sang,
All I know she sang a little while and then flew off,
Tell me all that you know, I'll show you snow and rain.
♪♪♪]

Jufisimo: I [golf-whisperer] corrected your link: The Illusion of God
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[You have to be inventive: Deja View: Jive Wade. ;-) The enlightenment dust floating round here is WoNdeRfUl btw]
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Alex T. Jacob wrote:[♪♪♪All I know is something like a bird within her sang,
All I know she sang a little while and then flew on,
Tell me all that you know, I'll show you snow and rain.

If you hear that same sweet song again, will you know why?
Anyone who sings a tune so sweet is passin' by,
Laugh in the sunshine, sing, cry in the dark, fly through the night.

Don't cry now, don't you cry, don't you cry anymore.
Sleep in the stars, don't you cry, dry your eyes on the wind.

All I know is something like a bird within her sang,
All I know she sang a little while and then flew off,
Tell me all that you know, I'll show you snow and rain.
♪♪♪]

Jufisimo: I [golf-whisperer] corrected your link: The Illusion of God
Excellent reply by the melody!

Thank you for seeing my imperfection and correcting it by fulfilling that space between 0 and 1 with our imperfect lost and found recovery. Indeed, we are our brothers keepers.

Never give power to anything a person believes is their source of strength - jufa
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dejavu (*already seen rays with shield*)
de_ja_vu (*distribution*)
the_yes_vu (*translation dutch --> english*)
the_yes_uv (*switch*)
the_yes_UV (*capitalization*)
the_yes_U.V. (*invocation of Mneme*)
the_yes_UltraViolet (*unit mobius as 8 or hyperintuition*)
het_y_es_UltraViolet (*distribution + translation D --> E*)
het_f_es_UltraViolet (* y = f(unction)*) #K1
het_f_ES_UltraViolet (*capitalization*)
het_f_E.S._UltraViolet (*Mneme waited*)
het_f_EmergentStochastics_UltraViolet (*U.M.8 or hyper(I)*)

#K1 function junction, said uncle unction,
i lost my point and none of its punctuation, hence the head in will power fluctuation. UV + K1 = y in multiple uncles.

Ultraviolet radiation is a function of emergent stochastics.

jufa (*teacher*) #K2
ju_fa (*distribution*)
you_fa (*moronic induction*)
you_fabrizio (*my name*)

yes jufa ? moron ? whats wrong with me ?
#K2 juffie = dutch = little teacher

alex t. jacob (*the saint*)
a_lex_t._jacob (*distribution*)
a_lexicon_t._jacob (*anti lazy*)
a_lexicon_T._jacob (*Ca(pizza)litation*)
a_lexicon_Toroïdal_jacob (*Hyper(I)*)
a_le_x_icon_Toroïdal_jacob (*distribution*)
ale_x_icon_Toroïdal_jacob (*association*)
drunk_x_icon_Toroïdal_jacob (*ale = beer = drunk*)
d_run_k_x_icon_Toroïdal_jacob (*distribution*)
d_RUN_k_x_icon_Toroïdal_jacob (*Capitan izion*)
d_R.U.N._k_x_icon_Toroïdal_jacob (*Mneme*)
d_RelevantUncleNumbers_k_x_icon_Toroïdal_jacob (*hyper(I)*)
d_RelevantUncleNumbers_kx_icon_Toroïdal_ladder (*association*)
d_RelevantUncleNumbers_k(x)_icon_Toroïdal_ladder(*predicate curiosity*) #K3

The relevant numbers in the head of your uncle are a function of iconoclastic toroïdal ladders.
#K3 the whole structure of jacob is a broken ladder...mneme is hiding inside some distribution but the eye is not noticing the trees in the wood; each individually. You see ? what is hiding in this structure ? -->mneme-distribution-association-hyper intuition thus mneme is associated with the whole forest distributing intuitions.
(*mechanical confirmation*)


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Jufa:
Who elses cloak have you stole pieces of cloth from and adapted as patches of leaves to cover that within you which was not yours?
Is this a metaphor of the Garden of Eden? If so, it is clever and revealing.

Eve must be rescued by Adam by going back into the garden in a state of innocence once again reclaimed by and through holiness. Innocence has no choice, it must eat from the tree of knowledge and thereby experience a death state.

Holiness has experienced knowledge and is educated. It remains in the unconditioned state unless confronted by consequences. If one is able to see and predict the results of all action, thought, and words spoken and written, one is able to make the choice of holiness and transcend. You eat of the other tree in the garden, the tree of life eternal.

To make a fully informed decision is to know the consequences of your action. This is not always possible to the conscious mind and so, we TRUST OUR HEART. Most do not trust their very own heart and instead, rely on the tricksy mind games of the voice of thought downloaded into our brain from childhood. It was put there by the only God we knew at the time, usually our parents. These superior beings in size (looking out from the land of the giants) as all grown ups are to children, are engulfed in the term `sin`.

We are born in innocence into a world corrupted by sin, worldliness, attachment, ego, evil - whatever.

Salvation is a return to innocence in a state of wisdom known as holiness whereby our will and intent is the betterment of all in our relationships. As a gift - we transcend into something more than we could imagine, beyond humanity.
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Beingof1 wrote:Jufa:
Who elses cloak have you stole pieces of cloth from and adapted as patches of leaves to cover that within you which was not yours?
Is this a metaphor of the Garden of Eden? If so, it is clever and revealing.

Eve must be rescued by Adam by going back into the garden in a state of innocence once again reclaimed by and through holiness. Innocence has no choice, it must eat from the tree of knowledge and thereby experience a death state.

Holiness has experienced knowledge and is educated. It remains in the unconditioned state unless confronted by consequences. If one is able to see and predict the results of all action, thought, and words spoken and written, one is able to make the choice of holiness and transcend. You eat of the other tree in the garden, the tree of life eternal.

To make a fully informed decision is to know the consequences of your action. This is not always possible to the conscious mind and so, we TRUST OUR HEART. Most do not trust their very own heart and instead, rely on the tricksy mind games of the voice of thought downloaded into our brain from childhood. It was put there by the only God we knew at the time, usually our parents. These superior beings in size (looking out from the land of the giants) as all grown ups are to children, are engulfed in the term `sin`.

We are born in innocence into a world corrupted by sin, worldliness, attachment, ego, evil - whatever.

Salvation is a return to innocence in a state of wisdom known as holiness whereby our will and intent is the betterment of all in our relationships. As a gift - we transcend into something more than we could imagine, beyond humanity.
No one of the intellectual flavor is willing to comprehend it is Adam, according to the metaphor of Genesis two whom the woman came forth from. This means being Adam is the life giver of the woman, Adam is also the life giver of error, or sin if preferred, also to the woman. This being so, then it is the nature of error in Adam which had to be rescued to stop the dual nature of the belief in separation, and the passing onto the next generation the Nature of Error.

Because of what has been revealed above, then all human thought is founded in conditions of Adam's self-righteous universal human mind individualized in all people the earth has
covered with itself. This human thought come from a mind which consist of two ego's. This
mind's founded in conditeions of Adam's self-righteous, project thoughts limited to the heights, depths, and length of a parenthesis that is encased thoughts of good and evil, and is the anchor for the law of carnal commandent. This mind, with its split personalities,
is what binds akk individual [me's] to the consciousness of itself and; what firmly hold [me's] in the pains and pleasures of an illusionary life of matter through the illusionary death of that matter.

All [me's] are ignorant worshippers of a God they cannot fatom, thus, cannot understand, thus, cannot realize through their intellect. Therefore, all [me's] are manipulated by the illusion of eating of the fruit of the tree of dual minds, which means everything in the human realm is brought to life on illusive false conditions. It is these conditions, which foster birth, which birth gives life to death, thus, "life gives to death so death can die, and death gives to life so life can live." But that which is the true Source of life, which gives birth it's power, thus power to all conditions within that birth, has no end. Where does anything of infinite life end when there is no jumping off point of beginning to measure that "without father, without mother, withou descent, having neither beginning of days nor end of life"?

All [me's] are manipulators of conditions of thought. All [me's] sanction their lives by the manipulation of these conditions for their betterment based on their own projected mind images of their two personalities of good and evil. Experts are [me's] in their manipulation of conditions concerning themselves; in not accepting their responsibility to love their fellow [me's] as they love themselves and; "thou shalt have no other gods before Me."

Deceitfully self-righteous is [me's] mainspring, as they manipulate through the maze of darkness they themselves have formed, built upon, believe, and exist in. It matters not, therefore, which rung of the ladder of life [me's] foot may come to rest upon; what belief [me's] hold, or what the religion [me's] tender, race, color of earth's texture [me's] wears, or [me's] abilities in this realm which [me's] have formed, if [me's] have not stopped seeing God as a thought, concept, idea, word, picture, or image in time, space, distance, and matter, [me's] will never come to know, therefore understand, me is the chief
manipulator and divider of the garment of life.

In all things, in all ways, in all me's mind, body, and soul, me will never realize, because me does not realize me exist in a bubble
of me's own form, and that in the midst of me's Being, there is ONE
REALITY which will endlessly direct me's ways, express me's truth,
and manifest to me's "things also we speak, not in words which man's
wisdom teacheth, but which the WHOLE SPIRIT teacheth, comparing spiritual things with spiritual."

Never give power to anything a person believes is their sourece of strength - jufa
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