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sschaula wrote:When he says "fuck salt" that is seriously funny to me.
I had not emotional reaction to any of that video - well perhaps "numbness" if one would want to call that an emotion.
sschaula wrote:Cats are annoying, anyway. Probably my least favorite creature.
I did, however, laugh when I read this.
sschaula wrote:Thirdly, people with tourettes do sometimes act like that. I've seen a guy at my family's church that couldn't stop cussing nonsensibly. It's not just a stereotype...
There is a slight difference - perhaps it is too subtle for most people to pick up on though.
sschaula wrote:I think women don't have an advanced enough brain structure to understand why it's funny.
No, you explained it well enough. It is funny to you because it is random to you. Perhaps this is a case of desensitization to a condition.That was not random to me, so perhaps that is why it was not funny to me.

As for women in general, if as Rory said, even most American women (I gues in areas that I normally do not interact with people) are like the QRS description of women, then perhaps women are so used to so much stuff being random, that randomness is not unusual enough to be funny. If something random is unusual in a normally orderly male world, then it would be funny. Also, women are more often caregivers of small children. Small children are relplete with random behaviors, so that might also desensitize women.

Yes, I have laughed at unusual randomness - when I was in my early teens, my mother and I had luch someplace overlooking a golf course. Right outside the window, a couple of older people were having soem serious difficulties operating their golf cart. I found that hilarious. Even thinking back to how they were unable to keep the cart on the path, I find it amusing.
sschaula wrote:That women are too intelligent for such jokes.
Actually that was not my theory, especially on the cat-guy. Women are physically weaker than men, and most women were never trained in self-defense (which, IMO is stupid of women to not take the personal responsibility to learn that). Therefore, women react with a recognition of danger. The cat guy, especially with his neck brace on, is not likely to pose a physical threat to another guy. Realistically, this guy probably couldn't hurt me, but he could hurt most women.

Actually, that's another piece of insight - I reacted with numbness to the link that you gave - and when I am in a real-life physical confrontation, I go completely numb and follow my programming on de-escalating the situation if possible and neutralizing the threat as a last resort. I have accomplished this only through numbness, even if it sinks to a physical confrontation. If it does get physically violent, after it is all over I go into physical shock from the overload, but until after everything is resolved, I remain numb as I was watching the video.

Not all women will go numb at that, but I bet there are others who correlate their response to what it would be if that were in person. Other women might become fearful, and sometimes fear is expressed like anger or disgust. You, probably, would not find him in the least bit threatening.

Furthermore, because you and he are both guys, the type who has an anger management problem like he actually portrayed (whatever his intent) are more likely to become physically violent with females than with males. Abusive guys are actually rather weak, and they would rather beat up on women (or cats) who they know they are not in any physical danger from themselves.

I could not actually damage a guy with my bare hands even though I know how to neutralize a threat through calm and deliberate actions. Unarmed women are not a threat to men the way men are to women. That may explain why anything that hints at the possiblility of physical violence - no matter how random - is not going to be funny to women the way it could be to men, who are not so vulnerable to that kind of violence.
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E,
As for women in general, if as Rory said, even most American women (I gues in areas that I normally do not interact with people) are like the QRS description of women, then perhaps women are so used to so much stuff being random, that randomness is not unusual enough to be funny. If something random is unusual in a normally orderly male world, then it would be funny. Also, women are more often caregivers of small children. Small children are relplete with random behaviors, so that might also desensitize women.
Actually, I think there is something different in the brains of women. Men don't only laugh at things which are completely random. With my friends we have inside jokes, which we may repeat MANY times and it's still funny to us. I have read a study once that said men like these types of jokes, too, whereas women find them stupid.

For instance, my friends and I watched the movie American Pie back when I was in high school and during the movie one of us said "EAST"...ripping on the jock's shirt in the movie. For like 2 years after that, we continued to say EAST to eachother and laugh about it. I guess we laugh at the type of jokes that you have to describe like, "you'd have to be there to get it".

What kind of humor do women tend to like? I really can't tell. How about you?
I reacted with numbness to the link that you gave - and when I am in a real-life physical confrontation, I go completely numb and follow my programming on de-escalating the situation if possible and neutralizing the threat as a last resort. I have accomplished this only through numbness, even if it sinks to a physical confrontation. If it does get physically violent, after it is all over I go into physical shock from the overload, but until after everything is resolved, I remain numb as I was watching the video.
I agree with you that women probably don't like this type of yelling humor, because it seems to pose a threat to their safety.
Furthermore, because you and he are both guys, the type who has an anger management problem like he actually portrayed (whatever his intent) are more likely to become physically violent with females than with males. Abusive guys are actually rather weak, and they would rather beat up on women (or cats) who they know they are not in any physical danger from themselves.
I don't have an anger management problem...I have an arguing problem. I don't hit women.

Cats are an exception though.

Just kidding.
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sschaula wrote: I don't have an anger management problem...I have an arguing problem. I don't hit women.

Cats are an exception though.

Just kidding.
You were almost a marked man. :)
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sschaula wrote: Actually, I think there is something different in the brains of women. Men don't only laugh at things which are completely random. With my friends we have inside jokes, which we may repeat MANY times and it's still funny to us. I have read a study once that said men like these types of jokes, too, whereas women find them stupid.
There have been times I have found something like that funny with a group. It isn't my all-time favorite type of humor, but it can be funny.

What kind of humor do women tend to like? I really can't tell. How about you?
I do not have the same sense of humor as most women. Most women like male-bashing humor (that annoys me) and cute-kid stories (which I find inane).

I love a good pun-off - where someone comes up with a pun, and the other person puns back. I've primarily found good partners for that amongst females - and it could be the stronger tendancy of females to have good verbal skills to be able to pull that off.

I like inane things being pointed out, although there is a limit to the repetitiveness of that. For example, a friend once dragged me off to one of those Friday the 13th movies. That was so inane that I started making wise-acre comments - like when Freddie ran a sword through two people on a motorcycle, I whispered to my friend "shish-kabob!" I related this to another friend of mine, and he suggested I would like Mystery Science Theater 2000. It was funny for a few minutes, but I got bored fast.

Some of the other kinds of humor I like are obscure references, silly but innovative solutions, cleverness, and sudden realizations.
I don't have an anger management problem...I have an arguing problem.
I can see the difference.


I don't hit women.

Cats are an exception though.
I laughed at that one before I read "just kidding." I do also find clear sarcasm funny.

There is a difference between clear sarcasm, which is funny, and "sarcasm" which is actually just a tool for testing the waters of how other people think, or "sarcasm" that is of a damaging nature. If it's obvious that the person doesn't mean it - it is funny.
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Actually, I think the "inside joke" humor is pretty feminine - laughing at it marks you as a "member" of the group. It's herd behavior.

But, the repetition can make it funny, or at least funnier than it actually was. For example, some friends and I used to make fun of this enlightenment-for-money guru guy called Adya by just repeating his name over and over again. This was mildly amusing at first, but the repetition blew it out of proportion and it became silly. :)
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It is herd behavior, but I think it's male herd behavior. Females usually don't like those kinds of jokes. Take a look around.

And I don't think herd behavior makes a person less inclined to the truth. Seperating yourself from the herd is usually done out of delusion, and ego...almost never out of truthfulness and serenity...or a passion for understanding. It usually comes from MISunderstandings.

But whatever...I'm sure many people here will think it is not very philosophical to do herdlike things.
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sschaula wrote:And I don't think herd behavior makes a person less inclined to the truth. ...
But whatever...I'm sure many people here will think it is not very philosophical to do herdlike things.
I wonder how many people here only "think" doing herd-like things is not very philosophical because that is what this herd says. Just like I wonder how many people here really think for themselves that masculinity is the only path to enlightenment.

Even going along with a counter-culture can be another herd-el to overcome.
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Hey Scott,

Is that avatar your actual picture, you punk? :)
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Yup.
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sschaula wrote:Yup.
We look quite similar, you handsome bastard!

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Show thyself.
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Okay Scott - here's an example of something females find funny - that actually I found humorous too.

If women were like men

*disclaimer - some female nudity*
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Elizabeth Isabelle wrote:Okay Scott - here's an example of something females find funny - that actually I found humorous too.

If women were like men

*disclaimer - some female nudity*
uh. That was not funny. Not in any way.

I mostly find people funny. One of the more recent things that amused me was 20 people between 18-25 trying to remember how to do the Macarena and being utterly unable to coordinate it so half of them were jumping at different times... Fluster-Cuck.
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I didn't find that vid especially funny or clever, really. But, I did find the next one quite clever in an ironic sort of way (I'm presuming here that the same vid shows each time you hit "next" at that site).
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Dan Rowden wrote:I didn't find that vid especially funny or clever, really. But, I did find the next one quite clever in an ironic sort of way (I'm presuming here that the same vid shows each time you hit "next" at that site).
hmm. Gaming is not fun. Is that what you got?
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It's some guys taking the piss out of a gaming character who then comes through the door and shoots them all.

Made me laugh.
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Dan Rowden wrote:It's some guys taking the piss out of a gaming character who then comes through the door and shoots them all.

Made me laugh.
Me too - just checking to see if that's the same thing you got. :)
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Rory wrote:
Dan Rowden wrote:I didn't find that vid especially funny or clever, really. But, I did find the next one quite clever in an ironic sort of way (I'm presuming here that the same vid shows each time you hit "next" at that site).
hmm. Gaming is not fun. Is that what you got?
Rory wrote:
Dan Rowden wrote:It's some guys taking the piss out of a gaming character who then comes through the door and shoots them all.

Made me laugh.
Me too - just checking to see if that's the same thing you got. :)
Rory - do you see how obvious it is that your "opinion" on whether or not the gaming video was funny changed as soon as Dan declared it funny?

I wonder how honest you were about finding the other video funny if you were trying to guess whether or not Dan would find it funny (and I had earlier said I don't usually like guy-slamming humor, which is what females tend to find funny - but obviously guys don't).

You're just kissing up to Dan.
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Elizabeth Isabelle wrote: Rory - do you see how obvious it is that your "opinion" on whether or not the gaming video was funny changed as soon as Dan declared it funny?

I wonder how honest you were about finding the other video funny if you were trying to guess whether or not Dan would find it funny (and I had earlier said I don't usually like guy-slamming humor, which is what females tend to find funny - but obviously guys don't).

You're just kissing up to Dan.
"Games is not funny" was the Title of the video - not my opinion on it. Try actually looking at the information before jumping to conclusions about it. :) Besides, he had already said he found it funny when I asked if that was the same video... if I was trying to kiss up to him, would I have said it wasn't funny right at that moment?

And really, the video you posted was extremely formulaic and predictable and well... stupid. Not funny.

EDIT: I'm taking out a huge chunk of this. I really don't feel the need to engage in this crap.
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sschaula wrote:Show thyself.
Scott, you're an intelligent personable looking fellow and a handsome devil, to boot. Your avatar could be improved by cropping out the background to the left and above your face, and then reducing the overall size. Btw, I liked the eyes.
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Sounds like quite a bit of work...thanks for the compliments on how my face looks.

That video game one was pretty funny. The girl scratching her ass just kind of made my penis confused.
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sschaula wrote:Sounds like quite a bit of work...thanks for the compliments on how my face looks.

That video game one was pretty funny. The girl scratching her ass just kind of made my penis confused.
If you want to send me the full sized picture, I can do it in about 30 seconds.
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Rory wrote:"Games is not funny" was the Title of the video - not my opinion on it. Try actually looking at the information before jumping to conclusions about it. :)
Whatever - so you still didn't post your opinion until you checked with Dan to make sure what his opinion was.
And really, the video you posted was extremely formulaic and predictable and well... stupid. Not funny.
We're exploring the differences between what males and females are finding funny. Thank you for your opinion.
I wonder how honest you are being with yourself about your motivations for being here. You've been attacking Sue with no provocation, or if anything the provocation is that she's being honest with you at least all week.
I'm being completely honest with myself. If you must know my motivations with Sue, and if I must spell them out for you, here they are: I think it would be pretty cool to provoke her into conciousness. Sue lives in a world of anger and suspiciousness, so maybe that's her access pont. If I push enough of her buttons, maybe she'll actually "get it."

I believe women can become concious, and I'm starting to think that maybe Kevin had a good idea about how he (as a man) should focus on bringing men to conciousness. These guys have had 15 years around Sue, and as far as I can tell, they have not done a bit of good at awakening her. They directed her to some good reading material, but that's about it. Maybe I, as a female, ought to focus more on waking up other females.

Yes, waking the unconcious can look like an attack. The difference is the motivation.
And now you start attacking me.
Yes, actually - you've said some pretty unconcious things which I have let go, but last night I decided that it isn't right of me to just focus on Sue as my only pet project. I now consider any female posing on GF to be fair game, at least while they are posting on GF. I may or may not point something out on another board, but I won't be relentless there as I will be here. Sometimes people need a break; but here is not the place for a break - here is a place for the pursuit of enlightenment.
It seems that any female you perceive as being "closer to one of the QRS" is a target. When by closer I mean nothing more than "I speak to Dan off of the message boards" in my case.
Your perception is off - we'll work on that.
I guess the answer to that lies in consistancy. What would you say in a conversation with Robert Larkin? Would you say the same thing if one of the QRS was in the room? Would you be willing to show QRS the conversation we had with Robert in the room? Before you answer that, realize that I copy/paste to Word any conversation with Robert in the room but not Phil; I don't trust the man, and he has repeatedly attacked me for posting here, and for not hating Dan.
Saving a copy of every chat conversation with someone is a little creepy. Obviously you know that or you would not be abstaining from saving conversations that include Phil.

Hey - did you save the one where dyc attacked me relentlessly until I left chat - accusing me of camping out just to wait for Dan? That was actually pretty funny considering that at the time that she did that, I didn't know Dan very well and had become disappointed at a couple of things - not realizing the full story behind the events that I'd discovered. You, Rory, wondering about my honesty about my motives for being here sound just like dyc and a few others who were accusing me of being in Dan's "harem."

What's your honesty for being here? You knew Dan was here for a long time, but you only became active at GF after becoming aware that there was a female over here who was begining to understand Dan as a person.
"I speak to Dan off of the message boards" in my case.


lol - you're "marking your territory."

Okay, I've decided that Dan's a pretty cool guy. Nat wondering aloud about "Dan's harem" combined with being attacked from all angles when I went over there primarily to try to figure out Dan's leg in "the QRS philosophy" since he wasn't posting it over here, prompted me to take a look at what it is about Dan that is attracting so many females. It is especially interesting to note that Dan has attracted all these females despite being what the QRS proclaims as being something that females would never go for - perpetually unemployed with no intentioin of getting a job or providing the comforts of life.

Dan is primarily a compassionate being (which is a big draw for females), he is more likely to give the impression of wounded than angry (and of course females are going to want to go make it all better), and in his bio he admits to being shy (which will tend to draw females out to be more forward with a shy guy). That's pretty much the formula for the personality of a "chick magnet."

Although I love everybody, and I am subject to likes and dislikes of personality traits, I'm not focused on Dan and drooling over him like a lot of females are. There's stuff I like about Dan, there's stuff I like about Robert, and there's stuff I like about other people too. If any of these guys are not mature enough to see that I look at the behavior more than I look at the person - and that I can separate out one behavior from another within the same person - then they could be wiser.

By the way - I find it surprising that you have such a distaste for Robert. In chat, you seem to buddy up to him well enough - you even have your own pet name for him. Seems kind of two-faced to me.
Would you be willing to show QRS the conversation we had with Robert in the room?
I make a habit of not saying anything behind someone's back that I would not say in front of their face. I have nothing to hide about where I gave Robert my review of his performance in The Larkin Debates, and David already knows that I do not think he was displaying sagacious behavior in his participation at TBV a few months ago.

Now, I suspect that this conversation will embarrass Dan a bit - so I want to make something clear in advance. I am going to have to spend substantially less time on GF or any of the message boards for probably the next month or two. This is because of work priorities that are coming up, and will have nothing to do with if Dan suddenly decides that out of embarrassment or whatever that he is going to take a board break. I'm saying this in advance of knowing if Dan's going to react like that just to make sure no one can say that I was making excuses after the fact. I'll still be here, just not as much for a little while.
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Females...this is an internet messageboard. Get a life!
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Catfights are stupid. :)
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