St. Valentine

Elizabeth Isabelle · Post by **Elizabeth Isabelle** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 5:09 pm

Dan Rowden wrote:Katy and Elizabeth,

Why do women always find a way to make things, especially so-called dramas, about them?

I never said it was about me. Katy started pointing fingers at me and I refuted her pointing.

Elizabeth Isabelle · Post by **Elizabeth Isabelle** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 5:18 pm

Dan Rowden wrote:Why do women always find a way to make things, especially so-called dramas, about them? It's ridiculous. The "drama", such that it is, is entirely about a notion David expressed and the reaction it got in certain quarters.

It was about something David said, which got misunderstood, which was why you decided it was about you, packed up your website and went home? Yeah, why do "women" always make so-called "dramas" about them?

Shahrazad · Post by **Shahrazad** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 5:21 pm

Ok, so you're going to insist this is Cloudy's doing?

I think we're talking about different "this". If you're talking about your position regarding Quinn's statement, I agree that you're not getting pushed around there.

I don't think I should spell things out further, Nat. I'll probably say much more than I should, and end up getting in trouble for it. It must be a feminine thing or something.

Unidian · Post by **Unidian** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 5:31 pm

It was about something David said, which got misunderstood

It wasn't misunderstood. It was understood properly, and David was asked to confirm this. He did.

Katy · Post by **Katy** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 5:40 pm

Dan Rowden wrote:Nat,

Depends on which positions, exactly, you're talking about. There's nothing reasonable, for example, about your position on cheeze pizzas. They are disgusting. Everyone knows this.

I like cheese pizza. Not as good as pineapple, or bbq or peperoni, but still... it's tasty, and it's cheaper!

Trevor Salyzyn · Post by **Trevor Salyzyn** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 6:27 pm

Uni,

It wasn't misunderstood. It was understood properly, and David was asked to confirm this. He did.

It was very kind of you to dig deeply into the problem that David presented to point out how unethical you think the killing of old people is. I don't think anyone else could have figured that out without your assistance. You really cut to the heart of the matter with that picture of Adolf Hitler. After seeing that image, I no longer had any illusions as to whether or not there was anything esoteric going on: David is clearly homicidal.

Shahrazad · Post by **Shahrazad** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:46 pm

Katy, I'll give you a pointer. I buy me a very cheap cheese pizza at the grocery store. Before I put it in the microwave, I pour lots of other ingredients on it. It tastes great and saves me money.

Maybe I should buy some pepperoni to put on top.

Unidian · Post by **Unidian** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 2:11 am

Trevor, were you formerly known as "mookestink?" If so, weren't you in the nuthouse a while back? Just curious.

Elizabeth Isabelle · Post by **Elizabeth Isabelle** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 2:27 am

Unidian wrote:Trevor, were you formerly known as "mookestink?" If so, weren't you in the nuthouse a while back? Just curious.

Oh, my gosh! An actual, true and pure, completely unadulterated and undisguised ad hominem! Usually people stick these things inside a longer blurb that is actually on topic - but this one is pure! Textbook pure, actually.

Shahrazad · Post by **Shahrazad** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 2:36 am

There were two mookies at TPG. I could never keep them straight. One of them was a real nice guy.

Unidian · Post by **Unidian** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 2:39 am

Oh, my gosh! An actual, true and pure, completely unadulterated and undisguised ad hominem! Usually people stick these things inside a longer blurb that is actually on topic - but this one is pure! Textbook pure, actually.

Yeah, I try for perfection. But let's see what his answer is.

Dan Rowden · Post by **Dan Rowden** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 7:48 am

I don't see any reason for him to give you an answer.

Elizabeth Isabelle · Post by **Elizabeth Isabelle** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:09 am

What can we expect from a thread dedicated to St. Valentine? An ad hominem and what Katy likes on her pizza. It's almost appropriate.

Shahrazad · Post by **Shahrazad** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:42 am

For an innocent thread about poetry, this thread has gotten a lot of posts.

Dan Rowden · Post by **Dan Rowden** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:44 am

See! Like I've always said - innocence is a dangerous thing!

Shahrazad · Post by **Shahrazad** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:53 am

OK, so does that mean that if I start a mean-spirited thread, I wouldn't get in trouble?

Trevor Salyzyn · Post by **Trevor Salyzyn** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:01 am

Uni,

Trevor, were you formerly known as "mookestink?" If so, weren't you in the nuthouse a while back? Just curious.

Yes, I was mookestink. But no, I've never been in a "nuthouse". I have, however, been commited to a hospital. Psychiatry certainly has changed a lot in the last hundred and fifty years! Maybe you should read up on it, before you start spouting something ignorant. In fact, if you want an introduction to what mental illness actually is like, it could even make the topic for an interesting thread. I am more than willing to share my experiences....

But for the time being, let's stay on topic. You think DQ is homicidal. Are you sure that his intention, when advocating the murder of the elderly, was what you thought it was?

For instance, when I read what he said, I thought to myself: "ok, this is obviously unethical on so many levels. I'm not going to agree with it, and nobody is really ever going to agree with something like this. From what I know of David, he is certainly aware of this fact. Now... why did he bring it up?"

Sher,

There were two mookies at TPG. I could never keep them straight. One of them was a real nice guy.

Yeah, there was me, and there was mr mooky. I can't remember if I was the nice one or not. All I remember is having a few discussions with you about life, depression, medications, and the like in the chat.

Dan, thanks for the defense, by the way. But I'm quite sure Uni is the only person here who thinks that a history of mental illness is an argument against a philosophic point.

Shahrazad · Post by **Shahrazad** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:13 am

Oh, if so, you were the nice one. Thanks for clarifying that.

Elizabeth Isabelle · Post by **Elizabeth Isabelle** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:15 am

Trevor Salyzyn wrote:For instance, when I read what he said, I thought to myself: "ok, this is obviously unethical on so many levels. I'm not going to agree with it, and nobody is really ever going to agree with something like this. From what I know of David, he is certainly aware of this fact. Now... why did he bring it up?"

My first reaction (as documented somewhere on these threads) was - I'll even quote myself - that he was thinking "yanno this is illogical" - then people kept making a bigger and bigger deal out of it, so I upgraded it to literary device, and as it turned out, it was originally as I originally thought - pretty much an off-hand comment. Now it's days later and has cascaded into an unbelivable amount of nonsense. The sheer ridiculousness of the amount and duration of attention is baffling is only expanded by the scope of other things this one offhanded comment has spilled over onto. This is silly.

David Quinn · Post by **David Quinn** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:14 am

It's mainly been an exercise in demonizing me. That comment was just the sort of thing they were looking for to give vent to all the resentment and frustration they have with this place.

It is the privilege of the emotional and the compassionate to engage in the blackest of emotions and the vilest of hate campaigns. Like George Bush, they automatically have right on their side, so how could their behaviour be anything but just? Hide the blackness behind a few jokes and bouts of laughter, what is the problem?

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Elizabeth Isabelle · Post by **Elizabeth Isabelle** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:22 am

This is a huge piece of what I meant by Reality is too ugly to love. How can people hate logic and rationality so much? It's Ugly.

Dan Rowden · Post by **Dan Rowden** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:32 am

Shahrazad wrote:OK, so does that mean that if I start a mean-spirited thread, I wouldn't get in trouble?

You will if mean-spirited is all that it is.

DHodges · Post by **DHodges** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:33 am

Wait, are you saying I shouldn't be killing old people?

That can't be right. Now I'm really confused.

{frowny face}

Elizabeth Isabelle · Post by **Elizabeth Isabelle** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:42 am

DHodges wrote:Wait, are you saying I shouldn't be killing old people?

That can't be right. Now I'm really confused.

{frowny face}

Oh, no, this wasn't you was it? That started about the time we were talking about eliminating unnecessary people... Mall rats are pretty unnecessary.

Unidian · Post by **Unidian** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 7:52 pm

Dan, thanks for the defense, by the way. But I'm quite sure Uni is the only person here who thinks that a history of mental illness is an argument against a philosophic point.

Oh? Hmm, that's too bad. What flavor Kool-Aid you guys like?

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