post-post-modernism, post modernism, modernism...

zarathustra · Post by **zarathustra** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:40 am

discuss...

Diebert van Rhijn · Post by **Diebert van Rhijn** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 6:01 am

What's there to discuss?

I observe, I accept, I assume the immense process of the destruction of appearances (and of the seduction of appearances) in the service of meaning (representation, history, criticism, etc). That is the fundamental fact of the 19th century.

I observe, I accept, I assume, I analyze the second revolution, that of the 20h century, that of postmodernity, which is the immense process of the destruction of meaning, equal to the earlier process of appearances. He who strikes with meaning is killed by meaning.

The dialectic stage, the critical stage is empty. There is no more stage. There is no therapy of meaning or therapy through meaning: therapy itself is part of the generalized process of indifferentation.

One must be conscious that, no matter how the analysis proceeds, it proceeds toward the freezing over of meaning, it assists in the precession of simulacra and of indifferent forms.

The desert grows.

From: 'On Nihilismn' - Jean Baudrillard in Simulacra and Simulation

zarathustra · Post by **zarathustra** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:05 pm

there is a difference between postmodernism and post-post modernism....post-post puts meaning back and establishes it firmly in the world, in the way we apprehend the world...all it does is get rid of the mind set of the primative, which some schools of philosophy have refined - but, nevertheless it is still primative!

David Quinn · Post by **David Quinn** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:50 pm

By "meaning", you mean emotion?

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MKFaizi · Post by **MKFaizi** » Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:15 pm

I think the bitch is spamming and I do not see why spamming is tolerated more down here in the basement than up there in Enlightment Land.

Spam is spam.

Faizi

zarathustra · Post by **zarathustra** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:00 pm

no Q you little shadow boxer you, I mean sensibility tempered with reason, empathy and compassion... with a bit of group sex thrown in ....hey MKFuzzi - are you interested?

David Quinn · Post by **David Quinn** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:30 pm

In other words, emotion.

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Jamesh · Post by **Jamesh** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 3:09 pm

What I really want to know is how many of these idiot posters are the same person.

Of the ten nicks I have the least regard for, I reckon they'd end up as about 3 actual people.

Diebert van Rhijn · Post by **Diebert van Rhijn** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:58 pm

zarathustra wrote:there is a difference between postmodernism and post-post modernism....

It's like saying there's a difference between postmortem and post-postmortem. Might be of interest for a dead man.

post-post puts meaning back and establishes it firmly in the world, in the way we apprehend the world...all it does is get rid of the mind set of the primative, which some schools of philosophy have refined - but, nevertheless it is still primative!

Sound like a postmodern attempt to reach back and include Romanticism in its slow fade. So greedy. The desert grows.

MKFaizi · Post by **MKFaizi** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:39 pm

I think this forum is being spammed. I think some posts should be deleted. I also think that there are too many posters who are the same person.

Faizi

David Quinn · Post by **David Quinn** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:01 pm

I don't see it. Who are they?

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MKFaizi · Post by **MKFaizi** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 10:01 am

Well, I have no idea. Just a wild guess. A lot of spam anyway.

Faizi

David Quinn · Post by **David Quinn** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 2:39 pm

It's mainly zarathustra having a hissy fit, and before that Donna Thompson also having a hissy fit.

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MKFaizi · Post by **MKFaizi** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 12:47 pm

Serial hissies, then. Great stuff.

Faizi