The children now groan

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Re: The children now groan

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A=A
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"Which I become aware is known to be sourced in [the universal] ME,"

So you know it is all happening "within", as an experience? How often are you in awareness-mode of this? aka how often are you staring at the "projection" or illusory nature of yourself and others? Do you recognize your actions/thoughts are also just experiences, neither of which you have control over? It's just I've never met anyone who was truly aware they were in the middle of a "dream", it takes this understanding to grasp the tao te ching, and also to recognize this is the eternal "kingdom of heaven" and that we are one with the "father", as you seem to know :)
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Re: The children now groan

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I could also use help explaining it to Pye and Laird.
In my opinion people like you are much too obscure about it :P It is hard for other people to know really what you are trying to convey unless you just come out and say it, remember they don't know it from direct experience yet. For me I'm 100% sure I am currently "dreaming", I can see it, it is the end of suffering and the start of child-like heaven, show them with me?
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Re: The children now groan

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Merlin wrote:You're too hypothetical.
Hypothetical on a genius forum?

Never give power to anything a person believe is their source of strength - jufa
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Re: The children now groan

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"I am different from ordinary people.
I drink from the Great Mother's breasts."
-Lao Tzu
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jufa wrote:
Words ablaze refers to the reality of wisdom, of being aware of the two worlds and of making them one within one's consciousness.
This is accomplished by the SPIRIT OF BURNING. Does anyone know what the SPIRIT OF BURNING is indicative of in man?


Never give power to anything a person believes is their source of strength - jufa

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The spirit of burning is the spirit of repentance of belief in a separate or stand-alone self, the spirit of repentance which is caused by the spirit of reasoning the illusory nature of the separate or stand-alone self which is caused by the spirit of LIFE [SELF] of which no renunciate of reasoning, being the effect [child or path] of SELF, knows the cause.

"Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool."
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Merlin wrote:A=A
The epiphany.

Can you tell me your story of A=A?
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Re: The children now groan

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Rejoice, paradise is at hand a
how hard a thing to teach,
answer my questions saith the lord! if you are in heaven why do you not say so!?

these words are a manifestation like all others, though they are wholly different to other manifestations, this manifestation was written by a manifestation that's aware it's both a manifestation and God.




All you guys ever say is obscurity, tricking yourselves into thinking you have different opinions!


The spirit of lessening was having a conversation with the spirit of burning about whether the spirit of repentance is a spirit of reasoning! Wtf!
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movingalways wrote:
Merlin wrote:A=A
The epiphany.

Can you tell me your story of A=A?
I don't know how much you read into the characters who show up here but this is a past member here who is repeatedly banned but continues to manifest (himself - herself) as a new and enlightened member. Whoever this character is .. is the same old soup bowl with nothing but a repackaged surname.

You've been here long enough to know this is .. ?
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Merlin is actually Morgana
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SeekerOfWisdom wrote:"Which I become aware is known to be sourced in [the universal] ME,"

So you know it is all happening "within", as an experience? How often are you in awareness-mode of this? aka how often are you staring at the "projection" or illusory nature of yourself and others? Do you recognize your actions/thoughts are also just experiences, neither of which you have control over? It's just I've never met anyone who was truly aware they were in the middle of a "dream", it takes this understanding to grasp the tao te ching, and also to recognize this is the eternal "kingdom of heaven" and that we are one with the "father", as you seem to know :)
For this cause I came into the world. :-)

This morning, while drinking my coffee, I was contemplating one of my favourite things, which is my nativity scene, which I put out every Christmas. I can't remember a year gone by that I haven't contemplated my nativity and its significance to me. About five years ago, without realizing how ultimately this action would effect/affect me, I attached a large glass ornament of a star to its ceiling, representing, of course, the story of the star of Bethlehem.

This morning, while drinking my coffee, I realized my nativity scene was my perfect metaphor for "I and the Father are One" or as you say through Lao Tzu "I drink from the Great Mother's breasts." The glass star is my light of pure awareness that shines on the infinite unfolding of My Story of Me, symbolized by the characters inside the manager [Mind], with the Christ child, who is placed in the center, symbolizing Its eternal beginning.

This year I am not going to put away the nativity scene as I have done in previous years. There it will lie, on the hearth of my fireplace as my eternal reminder not to worry or grieve the things that happen, for all that happens is but the Story of Me.

In a previous post, you said it was sad that I married and had children. [If I am misquoting you, please correct me]. For me, the experience of discovering myself as "a" wife and mother was instrumental to my discovery of myself as Wife and Mother of ME. This is why I said you were projecting your "sadness" on my experiences. For me, there is no sadness at having experienced conventional reality, for if I had not, I would not have experienced the spirit of burning which jufa addressed in a previous post.
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Tomas wrote:
movingalways wrote:
Merlin wrote:A=A
The epiphany.

Can you tell me your story of A=A?
I don't know how much you read into the characters who show up here but this is a past member here who is repeatedly banned but continues to manifest (himself - herself) as a new and enlightened member. Whoever this character is .. is the same old soup bowl with nothing but a repackaged surname.

You've been here long enough to know this is .. ?
My question to Merlin stands.
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SeekerOfWisdom wrote:Rejoice, paradise is at hand a
how hard a thing to teach,
answer my questions saith the lord! if you are in heaven why do you not say so!?

these words are a manifestation like all others, though they are wholly different to other manifestations, this manifestation was written by a manifestation that's aware it's both a manifestation and God.




All you guys ever say is obscurity, tricking yourselves into thinking you have different opinions!


The spirit of lessening was having a conversation with the spirit of burning about whether the spirit of repentance is a spirit of reasoning! Wtf!
A conversation that does effect/affect the transformation of the darkness of ignorance of the light of wisdom, The Living Word.
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Who is it you are attempting to transform?

If that is the case, you are doing a very obscure job of it, you lovely angel you
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Re: The children now groan

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movingalways wrote:
Tomas wrote:
movingalways wrote:
Merlin wrote:A=A
The epiphany.

Can you tell me your story of A=A?
I don't know how much you read into the characters who show up here but this is a past member here who is repeatedly banned but continues to manifest (himself - herself) as a new and enlightened member. Whoever this character is .. is the same old soup bowl with nothing but a repackaged surname.

You've been here long enough to know this is .. ?
My question to Merlin stands.
That may be, but "Merlin" has been banned.

But don't worry, Seeker says he/she is "Morgana" so another name will take his/her place then you can submit your inquiry to the new, improved version. I'll give you a hint when that 'new arrival' manifests...........
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Re: The children now groan

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Moving

"This year I am not going to put away the nativity scene as I have done in previous years. There it will lie, on the hearth of my fireplace as my eternal reminder not to worry or grieve the things that happen, for all that happens is but the Story of Me.

In a previous post, you said it was sad that I married and had children. [If I am misquoting you, please correct me]. For me, the experience of discovering myself as "a" wife and mother was instrumental to my discovery of myself as Wife and Mother of ME. This is why I said you were projecting your "sadness" on my experiences. For me, there is no sadness at having experienced conventional reality, for if I had not, I would not have experienced the spirit of burning which jufa addressed in a previous post."

I was kidding about being sad about it, it was a joke of a come on :b

And yeah never anything to grieve about :)

Jesus was a genius, sadly no one understood what he was talking about
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SeekerofWisdom: Who is it you are attempting to transform?

If that is the case, you are doing a very obscure job of it, you lovely angel you
SeekerofWisdom: Jesus was a genius, sadly no one understood what he was talking about
Does that not make Jesus obscure, and by extension, does that not make obscurity an expression of genius, and by extension, does that not make me a genius? :-)
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Well, to be honest, he was a bit too obscure, there are people he enlightened and people he turned even further away from enlightenment getting caught up in false ideals and misinterpretations.


You would only need to be obscure to people that didn't know, if you know then there should be no problem in "opening up".
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The situation concerning Jesus isn't obscure though.

It's the taking up of a clean sheet of paper.
Pencilling in Jesus in the heading.

setting out a list of attributes.

It just means:

'He's my Guy'.

In your 'island consciousness'.
meaningmaker.

participatory.
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Almost everything written that he said was obscure and holding him as anything more than another enlightened guy is the problem, not understanding what he was talking about is what caused the special "He's my guy" and "JESUS IS LORD", the one true God come in human flesh...
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