*Ryan returns with his Spock mask back in order*
Ryan R wrote:
There has always been mental illness.
How do you know this?
You don't, you're guessing, you haven't even looked into that. I can say, "There's always been people," and while that's somewhat true, it doesn't rationally defend any position if I were trying to disclaim the world's overpopulation of about 7 billion of us.
[I'll spell it out for you: whether or not there "always was" mental illness is hardly the point.]
Ryan R wrote:
Primitives caused less damage to the environment, but they were not psychologically advanced. They suffered the same delusions as people do presently.
You wouldn't happen to have a list of these "same delusions," would you? (I'm not about to take your word for it.)
Show me evidence "primitives" harmed their environment. Show the statistical data that North American Natives were environmentally rescued when whites arrived, and I'll promptly concede this point to you. Otherwise, stuff this bullshit back up your bigotry matrix.
Ryan R wrote:
Jimi Hendrix was not wise.
Going by what you consider wisdom (the degree by which one is able to raze environments and enslave others), I think you paid him a rather nice compliment.
Ryan R wrote:Musical genius is in the same league as joggling as far as the enlightened sage is concerned.
And "enlightenment" is in the same league as "joggling," whatever that is, as far as the musical genius goes. What's your point, other than claiming superiority for what you perceive genius to be?
You reading things and acting like an intellectual snob indicates neither wisdom nor enlightenment, but rather an ill species of pretense---which Jimi Hendrix did not have. He is superior to you in almost every way; he had vision and unmatched talent and great creativity (you have none of these), and he stood for what he believed (didn't go over to Vietnam to die for rich people) and didn't try to be something he wasn't. He was far more enlightened than you.
Ryan R wrote: Moreover, even though there have been lots of intellectual blacks such as Al Sharpton, Barck Obama, and many others, those thinkers are still eons away from enlightenment. I haven’t found any evidence of even one enlightened black man, so my position stands until someone proves it wrong.
It’s not racist, its just factual. In the same way that stating that the probability of a women being enlightened is very low. Not impossible, but very low.
No, it's not racism---it's smug bigotry. I can almost picture you with a top-hat and a monocle, sitting about with your academic ilk dressed like penguins, sipping brandy and dicussing Hemmingway with your peers, then suddenly---"Oh
my, did you he'ar they are now letting dawkies into the public education centers?"
Ryan Van Rudolph: "My word. Absolutely
ghastly; whatever shall they conceive of next?"
Ponce #2: "I
know. It as though some of these liberal types feel that they're capable of the higher reasoning for which superior men such as ourselves are widely praised."
Ryan Van Rudolph: "Yes, quite. Savages. My brother, Regis, has two children in public classrooms as I speak. It is utterly
obscene to think that little Herbert and Evander Jr. shall be sharing class space with negroid barbarians from who knows where. Our fine institutions ought to reflect the most cultured, refined, and enlightened of races only. Why, just look at their great nostrils---such results are sure to bring much unwanted impurity into our beloved bodily fluids. According to the esteemed Doctor Ernst Rüdin..."
Ryan R wrote:
oh Sure, there’s corruption, war, pollution, urban drift, a destruction of species and so on, but there are also positive things such as a boom in nutrition,
Percent of people with normal (not fat, not skinny) body mass:
Men - Women (%)
Germany......... 53 37
Finland ............51 37
United Kingdom 46 38
Canada ............52 29
Switzerland ......49 30
France ............44 30
Denmark .........44 25
United States... 47 22
Sweden ...........44 25
"Mortality/Morbidity: Malnutrition is directly responsible for 300,000 deaths per year in children younger than 5 years in developing countries and contributes indirectly to over half the deaths in childhood worldwide."
Percent of people who believe their health care system needs fundamental change:
United States 60%
Sweden 58
United Kingdom 52
Japan 47
Netherlands 46
France 42
Canada 38
Don't get me started on diseases, birth defects, and mental illness...never before in history have humans been so weak, mentally, physically, and spiritually, so unhealthy and disjointed within communities, miserable, divided between genders, so overpopulated and yet in such silent agony of loneliness---and
totally convinced of the opposite.
Ryan R wrote:green technology,
Such as?
Ryan R wrote:better politics,
I see you watch a lot of news...I fail to see how you equate swelling bureaucracies in bed with corporate colonialism as "better," but, then again, you think parks are a nice replacement for wilderness, so whatever.
I suppose progressively lower voter turn-outs signifies better government to you as well. As does the continuing war in the Middle East, war on "terror," war on drugs, war on crime, and stuff like this...
Inequality of income (0 = most equal society, 100 = the least equal):
United States 99
Canada 83
Netherlands 82
Switzerland 79
United Kingdom 78
Germany 66
Norway 60
Sweden 60
Average CEO’s pay as a multiple of an average worker’s pay:
United States 17.5
United Kingdom 12.4
Japan 11.6
Canada 9.6
France 8.9
Germany 6.5
Poverty level:
United States 17.1%
Canada 12.6
United Kingdom 9.7
Switzerland 8.5
Germany 5.6
Sweden 5.3
Norway 5.2
Children under the poverty level:
United States 22.4%
Canada 15.5
United Kingdom 9.3
Switzerland 7.8
Sweden 5.0
Germany 4.9
Norway 4.8
Ryan R wrote: advanced medical treatment, more affordable housing, green transportation, and so on.
Straight from the school texts. So naive...but at least your grades feed your ego, I expect, and make Mommy proud.
Ryan R wrote:For every current problem, there are many intellectuals brainstorming trying to come up with innovative solutions, and only the best solutions will be retained.
Yep, that's been taking place for a hundred years, and we've got more problems and people are more miserable than ever before. Like that "innovative idea" to cure the rabbit troubles in Australia---"Let's engineer a virus to kill them!" says dork in lab coat.
Fussy egghead number 2 replies: "Good idea! Hehee, snort, ha, snort. We can control it so it won't infect any other animals! Brilliant! We are so smart!!!1 lolz!"
How'd that work out for them?
Left-brainers specialized in some area does not innovation make; it's not the "best solutions" that are "retained," it's the cheapest ones that can be exploited into such technological marvels as weapons of war---like nuclear power, for example. Science is no separate noble entity devoted to some "betterment" of mankind, for crissakes; it's funded and only supported if it's ultimately profitable for rulers, or otherwise deemed to be more efficient at killing men. And it always will be.
You have so much to unlearn, young one.
Ryan R wrote:
I don’t think so, I think you are simply deriving a lot of pleasure from this doom day vision of yours,
How little you understand. It took me twenty years to finally and fully comprehend what this world was all about---I was probably more in denial than you are now---and there wasn't anything pleasurable about it.
Ryan R wrote: I think the opposite is true. Increasing numbers of children are more knowledgeable than their parents in areas such as nutrition, science, the environment, using the internet etc. Many have easily surpassed the intelligence of their baby boomer parents, whose strong work ethic have turned them into a bunch of mindless drones. The youth these days are more selfish, which is a good thing. Selfishness leads to intellectual improvement, and the abandonment of old patterns that no longer work.
Better grades in school is not indicative of intelligence. Selfish = greedy = material = feminine = an accelerated more-of-the-same. You're an ignoramous. We've already established that true mental development results from difficulty,
not ease, and yet here are once more, back inside your comfy delusion, trying to sell me cyber snake oil. Overall, kids are stupider than their parents, who are rarely around anymore because they're either split up and hate each other or they are run ragged by long hours chasing materialist desires and steeping themselves in drugs and alcohol to deal with it.
You're probably good at math---let's see if you can add up the following American numbers (American because the US creates the pattern other nations follow---especially Canada---but I'll throw in comparative stats from others countries for perspective)...
65 million American youth in a total population of about 300 million, third highest on Earth.
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Percent of all children born out of wedlock:
Sweden 46.4%
Denmark 41.9
United States 21.5
United Kingdom 19.2
Canada 12.1
Germany 9.4
Netherlands 8.3
Switzerland 5.6
Japan 1.0
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Sexually active teenage population:
Norway 66%
United States 65
United Kingdom 57
Germany 56
Canada 53
Italy 34
France 34
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Percent of sexually active single 15 to 19-year olds using birth control:
Germany 95%
United Kingdom 92
Netherlands 88
Norway 87
Sweden 79
Canada 73
Denmark 70
United States 56
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In the United States, there's an estimated number of TV homes in the order 109.6 million; average time kids spend watching TV each day: 4 Hours.
What do these little future brainiacs watch? Discovery channel? History channel? "ABC's
Desperate Housewives is the most popular broadcast-network television show with kids aged 9-12 according to Nielsen stats. (Jan. 05) According to Nielsen the top TV shows for 12-17 year old girls were:
American Idol, The O.C., Will & Grace, and
One Tree Hill. The top TV shows for 12-17 year old boys were:
The Simpsons, Malcolm, and The O.C.
Ah, yes, fountains of enlightenment and intelligence---Bart throwing doughnuts at his grandfather and other moronic, shallow, materialist chucklehead fests...the next generation's gonna be an army of buddhas, no doubt.
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54% of kids have a TV in their bedroom. - Ibid; 44% of kids say they watch something different when they're alone than with their parents (25% choose MTV); 66% of children (ages 10 to 16) surveyed say that their peers are influenced by TV shows; 62% say that sex on TV shows and movies influences kids to have sex when they are too young; and according to the American Psychiatric Association, "The debate is over… For the last three decades, the one predominant finding in research on the mass media is that exposure to media portrayals of violence increases aggressive behavior in children."
["Witnessing repeated violent acts can lead to desensitization and a lack of empathy for human suffering."]
[Yes, lack of compassion for others---crucial trait for buddhas...]
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"A study of 1,792 adolescents ages 12-17 showed that watching sex on TV influences teens to have sex. Youths who watched more sexual content where more likely to initiate intercourse and progress to more advanced noncoital sexual activities in the year following the beginning of the study. Youths in the 90th percentile of TV sex viewing had a predicted probability of intercourse initiation that was approximately double that of youths in the 10th percentile. Basically, kids with higher exposure to sex on TV were almost twice as likely than kids with lower exposure to initiate sexual intercourse." - Study Conducted by RAND and published in the September 2004 issue of
Pediatrics.
A
studylinking TV and childhood obesity.
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studyof kids watching more TV than studying.
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studydemonstrating increased aggression among children and television.
On and on---yeah, geniuses to be, I'm certain---there are thousands of these studies out there, and I haven't even grazed the exalted internetz yet. lololz
There's no way I could convince someone who's head is buried in feces that it's not actually chocolate pudding. Your delusions and funkyass rose-coloured glasses obviously give you much comfort; your ignorance of the world at large, what people are going through, how this biosphere is dying, what's taking place in war-torn regions, and your utter lack of historical perspective is staggeringly evident.
You've rationalized a nifty little construct of this techno-metaphysical-wonderland in your head (every topic that arises you grab it and start stroking---like this one, edging back into it and away from the actual subject matter), and I can understand that---been there, done that. In such masculine bankruptcy, I can see the motivation to desperately cling to something, anything, and fabricate a make-believe future, denying current trends of human misery, greed and idiocy and overwhelming evidence of pure ecocide. I was the same way when I was 21, thought I knew everything and daydreamed of the wonderful techno-paradise it would be, our Cyber Messiah...
just like how those equally daft idealists back in the 1950s envisioned jetpacks, and automatic highways and meals in pill form and Buck Rogers. The World of Tomorrow! Alas, they too underestimated much---like feminine greed, human stupidity, and how materialist want overrides all other considerations in the ultimate 'to-do list' of human priorities, despite our over-praised consciousness. Corporations steer technology, because they can afford to, and they do so, along with governmental winks and handshakes, to make money and nothing more.
It's pure fantasy, all entangled in the left-brain-ruled head of yours, to justify your addictions and ego feeding. [And I know how painful it will be for you once reality comes back and the bubble bursts. That humungous ego popping always stings like a motherfucker. But, then again, that's exactly what you need---a shock to your system and a boot up your
monumental complacency. You, little one, require a humbling of the highest degree.]
Jim Morrison said it best...
Each generation wants new symbols, new people, new names. They want to divorce themselves from their predecessors.
Because that's the best way to dupe them into being a good little consumerites, and you have great potential in this, that is certain.
Ryan R wrote:
Not Buddhism, A Buddha. Buddhism (the religion) is filled with contradictions and bogus ideas. People that openly practice Buddhism are mentally retarded. Check this out this guy.
Obviously it's never occured to you why more masculine systems and philosophies ultimately and inevitably return to the feminine---to religion...
Ryan R wrote:The Buddha didn’t practice Buddhism, he lived a wise existence. So the word Buddha is synonymous with the word sage, wise man, Man of the infinite, enlightened man or Ryan R, the word is not the thing, the signifier is not the signified, you get the idea?
So, why is it you're not "living without" as he did?
Any idea what "ascetic" means? What an utter hypocrite you are---which is how you piece together your belief system, through this perplexing materialist fixation with stuff (high-tech toys) and paying lip service to what you see as "wisdom" or "enlightenment" to either further your superiority complex (stemming from vast degrees of inferiority, always) or, as I say, justify your addictions.
More to the point, how can austere, spiritual men gather in such numbers and create this super-duper-hyper computerized, information processing, neural network of a social system when it's the
precise opposite of an austere life, devoid of want? (Hence: psuedo-buddhas.)
Ryan R wrote:Basically, what I saying is that you’re entire critique of civilization is rooted in negative emotion that you are addicted to, you derive emotional positivity from excessive negativity, you need to step back and realize how those ideas are feeding the center of your being in the same way a vampire feeds off the neck of a woman.
Seeing technology and civilization as the boogie man is your woman, and you are having a feeding frenzy with her.
I think you think so. Whatever makes it easier to dismiss me as a perceived threat to your attachments---you go girl! =)