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Pincho Paxton wrote:http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evid ... usions.htm

I've seen these marks before in 3D Fractal Landscape Generators. It happens when two vectors are overlapping. Most terrains that NASA create are put into a 3D generator so that they can look at the landscape from all angles. I think that these pictures are in fact 3D pictures.

Can you expand more on this pincho? The nasa says they are landslides. <- BS of course.
Landslides would have dark patches at the bottome where the boulders have gathered together to create peaks. I actually doubt that NASA even said that. You can also tell that these are 3D landscapes by the smoothed peaks, and lack of detail. You can get these heightmaps for Terragen that are actual pictures of mars, and then you can fly around Mars in 3D. NASA often post these 3D fly-by animations. I'm pretty sure that the pictures are 3D fractals. But that doesn't means that they didn't start off as actual photographs at an earlier stage.
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http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2003/2 ... 2123.shtml
Slope streak formation and dust deposition rates on Mars

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As you can also see, the darker streaks relative to the lighter color background are the scene's most eye catching feature. In the more current MRO data these are described as "slope streaks" which is a rather neutral identifying moniker in relation to the previous characterizations of this evidence. In previous science data, these have been consistently officially described as dust slides down slopes. The theory is that the upper soil material slides downslope revealing darker geological material underneath. These characterizations of course reinforce the official position that Mars in general is a super dry, dusty, dead world.
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hsandman wrote:http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2003/2 ... 2123.shtml
Slope streak formation and dust deposition rates on Mars

Oded
As you can also see, the darker streaks relative to the lighter color background are the scene's most eye catching feature. In the more current MRO data these are described as "slope streaks" which is a rather neutral identifying moniker in relation to the previous characterizations of this evidence. In previous science data, these have been consistently officially described as dust slides down slopes. The theory is that the upper soil material slides downslope revealing darker geological material underneath. These characterizations of course reinforce the official position that Mars in general is a super dry, dusty, dead world.
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Very strange, because the pictures are identical to stretched textures on a 3D model. This picture for example....
http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_002396_1900

I have had this happen to my 3D models in the past. A texture is stretched accross a wide object exactly the same as in the picture.

I'll see if I can show you this exact thing on a 3D model.
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Here is a quick example. The neck of the greyhound has a texture stretched accross it, and looks like my previous post. The dark areas are missing, but I could also reproduce those by putting errors into my model. It would take too long to put the errors in there though. The dark areas errors are usually a division by zero in a terragen program.

http://s227.photobucket.com/albums/dd95 ... yhound.jpg
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Pincho: that is what the guy is saying as well, that they are not a landslides/dustslides, but are made by imaging programs.

The picture that you have linked ^ above is from this site.

http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_002396_1900

ps. Will pick up this tommorow. Tired today.

Edit: Pincho: "Here is a quick example."

Yes, I can see what you are talking about. You any good at 3d max moddeling? Have you done any work on games etc?
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hsandman wrote:Pincho: that is what the guy is saying as well, that they are not a landslides/dustslides, but are made by imaging programs.

The picture that you have linked ^ above is from this site.

http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_002396_1900

ps. Will pick up this tommorow. Tired today.
Well, he said something about tampering, but I am talking about just normal 3D rendering with no tampering. I am just amazed by the similarity that you get from 3D models, and rendering like Terragen. I would have said that the picture have rendering errors in them. They do not look like landslides at all.
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" They do not look like landslides at all." <=- Thats the point.

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The formation mechanism responsible for slope streaks is still under debate; theories range from dry dust avalanches (most widely-accepted theory) to briney water seepage.

Slope streak formation is among the few surface processes known to be currently active on Mars, making slope streaks some of the youngest features on Mars.
Water seepage... Dan would have had a good chuckle about that one few years back. Water on mars! :-)
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Grr.. hoaxters..
Disinformation is getting really serious. :-(

(Hoax vid - HR 8791 Homeland prepairness bill ...)

No such representative here http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW.shtml#H

The vid is from this site:
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Professional haoxter vids here.. http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... =112604967
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The fair and unbias media reports...

Chas Cambell - Free energy.. he is giving the idea away = FOR FREE, victor concludes that the old guy must be a hoaxter.. for there is no free energy in "force of gravity"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QD2Whs_LxA

And yet the swing works just on this principle.. Cognitive Dissonance alert! Red alert! Activate evasive tactics!

Steorn concept Magnetic Motor test
edit: fixed link. http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?p ... uel&page=3

Hmm, there would be if universe was in perpetual motion (such as expansion).. :-D
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hsandman wrote:The fair and unbias media reports...

Chas Cambell - Free energy.. he is giving the idea away = FOR FREE, victor concludes that the old guy must be a hoaxter.. for there is no free energy in "force of gravity"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QD2Whs_LxA

And yet the swing works just on this principle.. Cognitive Dissonance alert! Red alert! Activate evasive tactics!

Steorn concept Magnetic Motor test
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yei0NMqUaZ

Hmm, there would be if universe was in perpetual motion (such as expansion).. :-D
Second link doesn't work.

I doubt that the guy created increased power output from his machine. Hard to say, but that machine was obviously scritinised by someone, and quickly ignored. Pity we can't get to scrutinise it. But taking all of the information that I can put together, including all of my own theories, and pushing the bounderies of what I know to the point where I can't believe what I am thinking, I still can't produce energy from nothing. The infinate universe has an infinate supply of energy, but it is all localised to grid references. You can move it from A to B, but can't break the zero to 1 state. Zero desn't exist, and 1 = 2 doesn't exist, so everything about increased energy output appears to be a paradox, unless I have forgotten something.
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Pincho Paxton wrote:Second link doesn't work. <I fixed it, thanks>

I doubt that the guy created increased power output from his machine. Hard to say, but that machine was obviously scritinised by someone, and quickly ignored. Pity we can't get to scrutinise it. But taking all of the information that I can put together, including all of my own theories, and pushing the bounderies of what I know to the point where I can't believe what I am thinking, I still can't produce energy from nothing. The infinate universe has an infinate supply of energy, but it is all localised to grid references. You can move it from A to B, but can't break the zero to 1 state. Zero desn't exist, and 1 = 2 doesn't exist, so everything about increased energy output appears to be a paradox, unless I have forgotten something.
You are correct, you can't produce energy from nothing, but you can tap in to the energy that is used in the universe. Gravity is just this energy in a different state. Just like you can't drain a glass with a straw without first initiating the gravities help (or think of the way people siphon fuel out of car in to a jar) there is need for that first input of energy (there has to be a cause for the effect) The old guy is using that energy to turn a flywheel.

The idea is similar to a way swing works,(I think) using gravity and momentum
ie. inputs of energy at certain points of the cycle.*shrug* I tend to believe people who have no monetary vested interest
in what they say, over the people who do. Qui bono. I could be wrong there, hey, anyone can be.

I fixed the second link, watch the vids starting from the 1st one - bottom right.
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More on permanent magnets and energy stored(?) or chanaled through them... I hope victor with his superiour knowlidge can enlighten me on this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r2aZ3llqok

Here is what someone said about this vid.
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I'm glad someone else noticed the energy required to pull it back! Essentially (in it's present state) this is just a sling shot... the energy that is creating the motion is from the energy required to pull it back. I believe the concept does work and it could in theory continuously run on a circular track but the magnets aren't going ot last that long... the extra energy required will be taken out of them... this isnt going to work as a free energy device.
Ohh, noes! The Energy is going to run out! Ohh, noes! You have to pull it back for it to start working!

wtf? All you have to do is place the trolley on the track and the magnets and the vedge type of geometric configuration is doing the work as you can see. It is the GEOMETRY that accelerates the trolley and while magnets (here we go again) do the work. Yes, just like a magnet hangs against gravity perpetualy on the ceilinng of my room using magnetic fields against gravity, without even touching the surface of the metal plate.. (here goes the idea that magnets use molecular bonding or any other stupid idea.)

To illustrate what I am talking about..

A = surface of the metal ceiling
B = Magnets surface at a distance where the atraction to metal surface is strong enough to overcome the Gravity.
C = Strings holding a magnet tied to the ground

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--------------- <- A

<Emty space between. ie. air>

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ <- B
|             | <- C

I am still waiting for the magnet on my fridge to lose its energy too. lol

Edit: Image of neodymium magnets doing work against gravity pull.

Three solid steel ball bearings (spheres) easily suspended by miniscule neodymium magnets. The lowest sphere is 3.63cm in diameter (196.1g), and is being held up by a NIB disk magnet 4mm in diameter by 1.5mm thick (0.143g). Such magnets can easily lift thousands of times their own mass. (Source image)

Edit: just to clarify:Neodymium magnet that weights 1 killo will pull up against gravity 1 ton of steel.2kg/2tonns etc. 5kg of this stuff will lift a 5 ton elephant of the ground!
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I am still waiting for the magnet on my fridge to lose its energy too. lol
Give it a few thousand years (or hundreds or millions of years - whatever) in a vacuum system where one end of the magnetic field is made to be external to the vacuum containing the magnet, and it will.

What happened to the static electricity magnetism in your hair on the last windy day -where ther fuck has it gone!
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Jamesh wrote:
I am still waiting for the magnet on my fridge to lose its energy too. lol
Give it a few thousand years (or hundreds or millions of years - whatever) in a vacuum system where one end of the magnetic field is made to be external to the vacuum containing the magnet, and it will.
Yes, I realise nothing is forever not even sun.. only dimonds(lol), but I will take few thousand years... hey, I will even take 10 years, and then replace the "batteries". At cost of course ie. evaluation of my work translated in to cold hard cash ie. number on a bankers screen.. :-/
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Hmm.. energy is passed to, and fro between objects, and when the second object is full of energy, and the first object is full of energy, it might be possible to get some form of perpetual motion I guess. I think that's what happens to a photon when it cannot be held by the aether. I'm starting to see your point. However, it would not be a total anhililation of the magnetice energy that would stop this thing from moving. Just 30% loss of energy somewhere might be a big enough loss of energy for the thing to stop moving. It is not totally proven in the video, but is theoretically possible...I think...afterall.
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"Just 30% loss of energy somewhere might be a big enough loss of energy for the thing to stop moving."

Yes, friction, gravity, air, conductivity etc. affect mechanisms and motors lose about 40-60+% of the energy that way, there is a "leak" of energy like bucket that has holes.. not the best way to transport/carry the water, but..

magnets can easily lift thousands of times their own mass <- there is plenty left over. There are also ways to reduce the loss of the energy. For example: to reduce friction: -> wheel-> oil -> "magnetic pillow" where two surfaces are not touching each other at all. To reduce air friction: Vacuum. To reduce loss due to electric leak: superconductivity.

If you browse through the vids you will find that there are lots of other ideas based on momentum and alternative fuels, such as water. =) With the proliferation of information due to internet, the oligarchs of the energy monopoly based on the oil is going to crumble eventually. It would take law prohibiting spread of alternative energy ideas to stop this. 100+ years of this crap is enough. They should have enough money to fcking leave the humanity alone, and stop the billion dollar swindle that has gone on for so long. It's only a matter of time.

Edit: here is another vid from that user, this time he is using the attraction force of the magnets. So simple... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch9X0KqQP5o

As one of the posters responded:
It is overunity, it is clear to see kinetic work being done by the magnets to move the sliding apparatus, without the need for any power input by the user, other than actually positioning it at the start of the track.
And yet onother one responded with this gem:
and the point is...you built magnetic brakes???
<- No imagination.

Edit2: Teslas pancake coil on youtube.
From the creator of the vid:
You should be giving the details and plans for free on your site. If I find true OU everyone will be able to watch and do it for themselves. A dead planet is no good regardless if you have 1 dollar or billions.
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This is interesting.. future is finaly here.Read in science magazine about these two guys working on holographic tv about 10 yrs. ago. A cube design, not unlike a fish tank. Somehow it has turned in to a pyramid.. heh.


Kate Moss Hologram - Alexander McQueen Fashion Show
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1yr. Old youtube clip. This is Hillarious!
"Radio host Charles Goyette interviews Davin Coburn of Popular Mechanics.

Coburn was the senior editor and fact checker for PM's 911 debunking articles as well as the book "Debunking 911 Myths".

Coburn attempts to defend PM's debunkery. By the way, "memetics" refers to "memes" which are units of cultural information, such as a cultural practice or ideas,
reinforced by repetition. I love a good pun.

In part 1, Coburn alleges the existance of WTC 7 photos which we are not allowed to see, and which Pop Mechanics did not publish.

In part 2, Coburn maintains that DNA evidence was used to identify the 911
hijackers. I really wanna say something funny here. Enjoy"
Popular Memetics - Part 1 of 2
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Books on line for free. Love that idea, get a Diaglo text to speach and make mp3s for your mp3 player of choice. Now that is education!

Alternative history book. =). http://www.google.com.au/books?q=fomenko&as_brr=1
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Sweet! Now we can all have voices in our heads telling us conspiracy theories.
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Jason wrote:Sweet! Now we can all have alien-sounding voices in our heads telling us about the latest conspiracy theories.
Lol. Yes, you don't even need tv now, but that depends what you consider "conspiracy theories" ;-) I have not read that book yet, I just heard about it myself. I like to have choice in my education, and I like to be the one doing the choosing.

You make your own mind up.

To get the books you will need to download themas images,then feed the .jpgs in to ocr progie -> text to speach -> mp3
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How good can be bad, and bad can be good.. or something like that. What a marvelous age.

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