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But overall I agree, there’s probably always some degree of subconscious forces at work, but trying to empty the subconscious is like trying to drain the Atlantic Ocean with a $50 water pump from Canadian Tire, it’s kinda futile if you ask me, big guy ; )
[Big guy? Tries not to think of "ass"]

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Leyla wrote:
[Big guy? Tries not to think of "ass"]
Leyla, what in the world are you talking about? you havent got into the booze again have you?
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Maybe we need to write a "Deconstructing the Masculine" thread for her. Females get horny too.
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Elizabeth wrote:
Maybe we need to write a "Deconstructing the Masculine" thread for her. Females get horny too.
I agree, I think Leyla is in heat or something. Here is a helpful link for you Leyla, I hope it will be of assistance.
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Ryan,

Your a good bloke.

I inititialy wrote this post with scornful focused eyes.

But near the end, I'll admit there bubbled up some uncomfortable feelings of affection.
Ryan wrote: You can manage these forces by diffusing their power, but I suspect that is the best one can do. As you say there is always an infinite sea of subconscious lingering below the surface.
I don't see why the content of the sub-conscious should be an 'infinite sea'. It's more like a trapped resevoir of stagnant salt water, cut off from the infinite ocean of consciousness.
Awareness is management of this subconscious, so is it possible to bring an indefinite end to that stream? What do you propose? A dam?
Perhaps it's the contrary. Maybe what's necessary is a removal of the mental blocks which are damming up the subconscious and limiting it to a repetitive stream. Perhaps repeated dreams are like small trickling streams leaking out of a dam. Maybe if we begin to lower the dam, then the dreams will begin to become much more diverse, deep and disturbing – a torrent – that empties to produce a vast clear mirror-like surface of sage consciousness.

Yes, the subconscious pours out torrentially, ending in a vast smooth mirror of water!

Look, it's hard to express in words the feelings I have toward my friends.

So, that's why I like to resort to the medium of visual art and music.

My feelings towards my friends like you Ryan, are a mix between the way a devoted cop regards a criminal and the way Bryan Adams feels about the floosies objectified in his many love songs.

Check out this link, pay heed, and acknowledge and liberate your self through the power of this video and song.

Take note of the fellow in the begining of the video - - - perhaps you might recognize yourself there right at the begining. I don't like always having to play cop all the time - but that's a part of being a sage. It's not all fun and games.

And as for the song - - it's quite inspiring if you regard the totality as the songs object of praise and celebration.
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To Cory,
It's more like a trapped resevoir of stagnant salt water, cut off from the infinite ocean of consciousness.
Even if the subconscious has a limit, I think my main point is that no single action or actions is going to change the activity of those dreams. Devoting myself to something new isn’t going to end the dreams. There is nothing I can do about it, I’ve analyzed, I’ve contemplated, I’ve mediated, I’ve devoted myself, and the activity remains. It will end on its own if it’s going to, and if it doesn’t, it’s not a big issue anyway, it doesn’t cause very much suffering, it’s like a mosquito, an annoyance.

My motto is: “All I can do is live straight in the waking state.” Hey, I like that, I think I’ll put it on a T-shirt.
Maybe if we begin to lower the dam, then the dreams will begin to become much more diverse, deep and disturbing – a torrent
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yes, there are many other dreams, and they are quite diverse in content. Many are expressions of the very depths of animal consciousness, however I’m grown quite used to it, and I no longer find it disturbing.
pay heed, and acknowledge and liberate your self through the power of this video and song.
Lol, I’ll see Bryan Adams in a whole new light now, if women are seen as a metaphor for the infinite, then it gives new meaning to a lot of bad music, lately I have been listening to sorrowful melodies sung by women, I find them rather beautiful, even if the lyrics are incredibly shallow.

1. Evanescence- My Immortal
2. Eurythmics - Here Comes the Rain Again
3. Patty Loveless – Lonely Too Long (I used to have an obsession for her back in junior high school, I still think there is something angelic about her in this video)
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How typical of a woman.

A man opens his heart to her, and she stomps it into the ground without even knowing...

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Ryan,
There is nothing I can do about it, I’ve analyzed, I’ve contemplated, I’ve mediated, I’ve devoted myself, and the activity remains. It will end on its own if it’s going to, and if it doesn’t, it’s not a big issue anyway, it doesn’t cause very much suffering, it’s like a mosquito, an annoyance.
If you're still having the dream after all that, it sounds like you failed to resolve the conflict that is causing the dream. Quite clearly, if contemplation hasn't resolved the crisis, action is called for.

...Unless you decide to disagree with the message your unconscious mind is trying to convey (unsuccessfully) to you.
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Ryan, that Patty Loveless song.....yes I do remember being 14, lying underneath my covers watching that that video, having my newly emerged pubescent brain chemistry titilated.....that along with Deana Carter's Strawberry wine

Those girls really fanned some dangerous flames of yearning.

Anyhow, I think this is the lowest you and I ever sunk in terms of quality of expression on genius forum.

Yeah, I know, you think the Patty Loveless song has more philosophical value than the Deana Carter song, perhaps you think its more relevant to the struggles of your lonewolf lifestyle, but I still think strawberry wine's virtue is that it introduces the young man to a sense of nostaligia, for how relationships span long lengths of time, there's loss, of innocence, and, and.....

Ok, I'll admit - - with the Patty Loveless song there is still the dignity of having a sense that Patty, the woman, is singing to you, the man.

With the Deana Carter song, there's not as much room to be anything other than, vicariously Diana.

[head slumps down] The Diana song was secretly favorite of mine high school.

But then along came guns n' roses baby. Welcome to the Jungle. Yo' gonna die!

Ah, but before long, I realized that I was still a fag.

Now that I think of it, it seems the derogatory use of the word fag was a actually a useful social mechanism that insured that I remained destructive, discontented, self hating, and aggresive.

Yeah, sure it might have done some damage to some young men who actually were gay.

But I'm here arent I? That's all the matters. The stage is set for a light saberbattle between me and Quinn - the culminating pinacle of evolutions purpose - I dare say.

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To Cory,
Ryan, that Patty Loveless song.....yes I do remember being 14, lying underneath my covers watching that that video, having my newly emerged pubescent brain chemistry titilated.....that along with Deana Carter's Strawberry wine
Yeah, I had Strawberry wine on the same VHS tape as Patty Loveless, I also remember Nirvana on there near the beginning too. What a combination, I could listen to the Nirvana song first, making me depressed, and then by the end I viewed Carter and Loveless, making me yearn to be subsumed into the female. It’s quite cosmic if you think about it. Oh the teenage years!
Anyhow, I think this is the lowest you and I ever sunk in terms of quality of expression on genius forum.
lol, yeah, well at least we’ve not protecting anything, many posters are incredibly self-protective on here, always thinking of image, always anxious of how they will be perceived, I have no emotional concern in that, one can gain a lot insight from the past, if one is strong enough to see it as it was. It makes you stronger because there is the tendency for some to aggrandize their pasts by withholding information, and blocking information to make it seem as though they always possessed courage and wisdom from a young age. But of course this is a distortion of the imagination.


Cory,

I also just finished “Infinite Potential: The life and times of David Bohm” I’ll have to let you borrow it because it is quite good, it’s up there with Shadows, I was surprised of the detail Peat went into explaining some of Bohm’s psychological shortcomings, but it also highlights many of Bohm’s strengths as well. Overall, I enjoyed it, and I usually dislike biographies.
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I also just finished “Infinite Potential: The life and times of David Bohm” I’ll have to let you borrow it because it is quite good, it’s up there with Shadows, I was surprised of the detail Peat went into explaining some of Bohm’s psychological shortcomings, but it also highlights many of Bohm’s strengths as well. Overall, I enjoyed it, and I usually dislike biographies.
I look foward to giving it a read - been wanting to for some time.
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