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Aaron Mathis · Post by **Aaron Mathis** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 4:58 am

funny or profound to me. Although I do like diogones.

Perhaps the dishwater consciousness of mathis needs to be drained and replaced with some fresh water.

Suposedly,

Diogenes stood outside a brothel, shouting, "A beautiful whore is like poisoned honey! A beautiful whore is like poisoned honey! A beautiful whore . . . ". Men entering the house threw him a coin or two to shut him up. Eventually Diogenes had collected enough money and he too went into the brothel.

the story seems so pointless to me!

Oh, what a badass that diogones was! Am I missing something here?

Can somebody help pull out plug in mathis sink, and drain this old water? Help me see in a better way?

Or is the mathis conscious truly as high above humanity as it thinks it is?

What's the point to this Diogones story?

Nick · Post by **Nick** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 5:16 am

To show that he had no qualms about taking advantage of a man's pitty, as well as his lack of pride.

Steven Coyle · Post by **Steven Coyle** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 5:24 am

Erron,

It's the point of your own making.

Leave behind mother's niceties, and see.

That, the dishwater and sink is her's, and the wisdom is yours.

Ya?

Ya.

Aaron Mathis · Post by **Aaron Mathis** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 6:17 am

Nick Treklis wrote:To show that he had no qualms about taking advantage of a man's pitty, as well as his lack of pride.

Ah, that's a good answer.

I don't think Diogones really did this though. I think many stories of diogones were written by some giddy, imaginitive stoics who had a penchant for droll parables.

Trevor Salyzyn · Post by **Trevor Salyzyn** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:39 am

I think the legend of Diogenes is better interpreted through this story:

Diogenes was once asked what he thought of Socrates. "A madman," he replied.

Later, Plato was asked what he thought of Diogenes. "A Socrates gone mad," he replied.

Diogenes ridiculed Plato for being long-winded.

Whereas Plato needed to write books and books to get his philosophy across, Diogenese wrote nothing and still managed to appear in philosophy encyclopedias 2500 years later. He spread his philosophy mythologically by word-of-mouth, rather than through literature, and I would be willing to bet a time-travelling researcher that he did it intentionally.

Although there are certainly some additions to his story, there is a consistent enough ethic around them that it is very likely that someone with his name was the source of the bulk of the myth.

Kelly Jones · Post by **Kelly Jones** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:16 am

I think he was illustrating hypocrisy very clearly.

He took the role of a self-righteous denouncer, and then showed what motivates them.

Ever notice that when people make statements, it is always revealing their values? And even silence screams.

Just goes to show, no one can hide. Thoughts will out.

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Diebert van Rhijn · Post by **Diebert van Rhijn** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:24 pm

Aaron wrote: What's the point to this Diogones story?

He doesn't address life and all its processes, nor death. But only the illusive drape used to cover it. The deadly honey. And all possessions and attachments that come with it - its coinage.

When asked how to avoid the temptation to lust of the flesh, Diogenes began masturbating. When rebuked for doing so, he replied, "If only I could soothe my hunger by rubbing my belly."

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