Aging into Maturity

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Aging into Maturity

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Aging into Maturity

And we begin the dying process the precise moment of our birth. Different age stages determine progression of maturity.

An eighteen year old teenager may be emotionally mature over a forty year old who still displays emotional immaturity. Maturity is as individual as the individual.

The eighteen year old may have been subjected to more life's experiences dealing with many people and situations, than the forty year old.

Aging is not something to be feared but to accepted with maturity. Many people believe life becomes degraded with aging, it's because they limit themselves because they are aging. That's when they become old, when they just stop living and merely only exist.

For many, aging is a wonderful journey into maturity, when life takes on a more deeper meaning. A time for yourself. A time to enjoy life to the fullest that you allow for yourself. A freedom spirit takes on the new you, you become important to yourself and to others, because you have more to offer than you did in your early years. You've taken on a mature attitude, you're wiser than you were ever smart. People look up to you because they see in you something missing in their younger lives.

Mature people take on a positive attitude about aging, they accept it as though they know they can't change the fact. So they make the best out of an aging mind and body. Competing with the younger generation no longer occupies the aging minds, but instead they take on the attitude that the younger generation has to compete with their wit and learn from them.
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You've got a lot on your mind, don't you.
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More than my share on my mind. Ideas just keep on coming. But, I need to come up with an idea that will contribute to my getting rich financially without media attention. I know I could write a masterpiece, but I fear becoming rich and famous because of media attention. I'm a recluse from childhood, so I don't want any of it.
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mensa-maniac wrote:More than my share on my mind. Ideas just keep on coming. But, I need to come up with an idea that will contribute to my getting rich financially without media attention. I know I could write a masterpiece, but I fear becoming rich and famous because of media attention. I'm a recluse from childhood, so I don't want any of it.

You could write the book and sign it anonymous :)
i'd really love to hear your life story & why you are a recluse...i love autobiogrphies :)
You can donate the proceeds to help starving children or something...
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Those are great ideas Kunga, thankyou.

I like the idea of writing a book incognito, but that would be unfair to my readers.

Thankyou for being kind
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mensa-maniac wrote:Those are great ideas Kunga, thankyou.

I like the idea of writing a book incognito, but that would be unfair to my readers.

Thankyou for being kind

it would be unfair to have a gift and not share it :)
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Donna could write a book and pretend it was original.
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"Donna could write a book and pretend it was original"

Most probably do Dan, but not me!

Thanks for the acknowledgement that I could write a book, but all my work is original, I would only use the most brilliant mentality, if I were to borrow any ones ideas. I prefer my own ideas to anyone elses Dan.

Poisonous remarks poison people's minds

Incidently, my book is in the second stages, but not likely will go to step 3, because of a serious error on my part. The book is at Lulu.com and is stagnant because I accidently took my book to step 2 when it wasn't ready, now I can't go back to step 1. The error is a big one, I accidently made a short stories book into a photo book. So I have no alternative but to either continue making a photo book with my own added touch of short stories to it, which would then become an original fuck-up. It is called The Contemplations of Foresta Gump!
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Dear Mensa-Maniac....did you see the complaints against Lulu.com ??? i hope you're not being ripped off....and it's your creative endevor...you call the shots...you are the creator of your own book....many times i've screwed up paintings...and it was the best thing that happened !!! Sometimes being creative has a mind of it's own...let it flow....
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Dan Rowden wrote:Donna could write a book and pretend it was original.
I could write a book and pretend it was original, but, I don't need to pretend Dan.

Pretending is for tykes.
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I'm very interested in how a person can stop living but continue existing....

To my mind, maturity usually engenders a sense of selflessness, such that elderly people are more concerned with the well-being of their grand-children than they are to themselves. Of course that fateful day when they meet their extinction is coming up fast...

When you are 20 years old its easy to avoid thinking about your own mortality, but at age 80 its bound to catch up with you. So, it would seem, that they just don't care as much about themselves as younger people do. This correlates well with the data on Narcissism, narcissism steadily decreases with age.
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Haiku!
(God bless you)

Young flash flames burn quick
Hot embers singe tender feet
Steady deep fire warms
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Animus wrote:I'm very interested in how a person can stop living but continue existing....

What is living to you?

I live my life the way I want to, in the comforts of my humble abode. I love life, although I want to end it sometimes, but, I know I never will, because I fear that I'll come to realize I made a huge mistake and then it be to late.

To my mind, maturity usually engenders a sense of selflessness, such that elderly people are more concerned with the well-being of their grand-children than they are to themselves. Of course that fateful day when they meet their extinction is coming up fast...

When you are 20 years old its easy to avoid thinking about your own mortality, but at age 80 its bound to catch up with you. So, it would seem, that they just don't care as much about themselves as younger people do. This correlates well with the data on Narcissism, narcissism steadily decreases with age.
If narcissism steadily decreases with age, that's like saying they like themselves less and less as they age.

It sounds like a generalization to me, or something you instantly made up.
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They probebly can't remember who they are....LOL
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mensa-maniac wrote:
Animus wrote:I'm very interested in how a person can stop living but continue existing....

What is living to you?

I live my life the way I want to, in the comforts of my humble abode. I love life, although I want to end it sometimes, but, I know I never will, because I fear that I'll come to realize I made a huge mistake and then it be to late.

To my mind, maturity usually engenders a sense of selflessness, such that elderly people are more concerned with the well-being of their grand-children than they are to themselves. Of course that fateful day when they meet their extinction is coming up fast...

When you are 20 years old its easy to avoid thinking about your own mortality, but at age 80 its bound to catch up with you. So, it would seem, that they just don't care as much about themselves as younger people do. This correlates well with the data on Narcissism, narcissism steadily decreases with age.
If narcissism steadily decreases with age, that's like saying they like themselves less and less as they age.

It sounds like a generalization to me, or something you instantly made up.
" I live my life the way I want to, in the comforts of my humble abode. I love life, although I want to end it sometimes, but, I know I never will, because I fear that I'll come to realize I made a huge mistake and then it be to late. "

Where did this statement originate from?

"If narcissism steadily decreases with age, that's like saying they like themselves less and less as they age.

It sounds like a generalization to me, or something you instantly made up."

Well actually its not, there is empirical evidence supporting this. If you insist I will dig up my reference book when I get home and direct you to the peer-reviewed research.
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Here we are. The information I gave originates from:

Prevalence, Correlates, Disability, and Comorbidity of DSM-IV Narcissistic Personality Disorder: Results from the Wave 2 National Epidemiologic Survey on Alcohol and Related Conditions
Frederick S. Stinson, Ph.D.,a Deborah A. Dawson, Ph.D.,a Rise B. Goldstein, Ph.D., M.P.H.,a S. Patricia Chou, Ph.D.,a Boji Huang, M.D., Ph.D.,a Sharon M. Smith, Ph.D.,a W. June Ruan, M.A.,a Attila J. Pulay, M.D.,a Tulshi D. Saha, Ph.D.,a Roger P. Pickering, M.S.,a and Bridget F. Grant, Ph.D., Ph.D.a
a Laboratory of Epidemiology and Biometry, Division of Intramural Clinical and Biological Research, National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, National Institutes of Health, Bethesda, MD, USA
Corresponding Author: Bridget F. Grant, Ph.D., Ph.D., Laboratory of Epidemiology and Biometry, Room 3077, Division of Intramural Clinical and Biological Research, National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, National Institutes of Health, M.S. 9304, 5635 Fishers Lane, Bethesda, MD 20892-9304, Tel. 301-443-7370, Fax 301-443-1400, E-mail bgrant@willco.niaaa.nih.gov

Link to Full Paper: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... ool=pubmed

Link to Relevant Table: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... /table/T1/
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Narcissism declining with age is not a necessary indication of people hating themselves. Rather, it is a consequence of people realizing their self in others through a fuzzy unconscious process. It is a tendency toward clearer thinking based in life-experience, as one might expect. This is not to say that all 80 year olds are fully enlightened sages, just that there is a natural progression towards truth-realization that is slow and unconscious.
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