GENIUS FORUMS

What are conditions? Conditions in the world of man are attachment to souls which are eternally believed as the truth of the moment. Eternity is the moment of awareness now which is fulfilled in the blink of and eye.

And eye opens,
A sun shines,
The universe blinks - Michael
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The universe blinks
Light appears out of the darkness
Eyes open to adjust

Eyes close
The sun shines on
The darkness lives
Both are alive in
The blinks of the universe - jufa

That which was, yet is not, is an object of awareness. In the blink of an eye the object is no more in the moment of eternity, but it is a unfulfilled subject of memory. But the reality of the fulfilled object seen between the blink continues in the infinity of the continuance of the blink.

Eternal is the subject of the moment. The moment comes. The moment is. The moment is no more. The infinite source of the moment is Spirit. Spirit appears as a subject of awareness in the flesh world, but because flesh is impermanent, the moment the subject is believed conditional to reality, the subject is eradicated by the impermanence of yet the very continuance of "The Moving Finger" which "Writes, Having Writ, Moves On" into the expansion of the moment in order for Spirit to be the equal will of God everywhere. Tick tock, tick tock, tick tock.

The four seasons give credence to the above without religions, psychological, math, or other scientific involvement or input by the ticking of the moment. In absoluteness the seasons of the the earth year come and go moment by moment by moment [Tick tock, tick tock, tick tock] because the earth continually spin and revolve upon an unidentifiable axis which the human mind can understand according to its knowledge of the gravitational checks and balance, yet cannot comprehend gravities reality beyond human understanding.

Our understanding sprouts from what we have gathered from, and through our intermingling living, digestion of hearing, seeing, touching, tasting, smelling, thinking, and interpretations of knowledge and understanding which does not belong to us personally. All we are of and received came to us from the ethereal of Consciousness. And to say this is not so is to say Consciousness is not omnipresent. To say Consciousness is not omnipresent, one must present a time, space, distance and matter where Consciousness is not. This is impossible. Any moment time, place, distant, or matter comes to mind, Consciousness is there as Spirit awareness.

To say "so what" is not an option of our to say or choice to choose. What is really being said is, my senses cannot reach that. I can't put my finger on that which is illusive to my human logic and reasoning, and being so, it doesn't matter. This mean because of religion, philosophy, scientific examinations and reported analysis, the higher one of intellectual logic believes in mind rational, the more their reasoning and beliefs are confound with questions which have no ending.

One must go through the mind to get beyond the mind.

Never give power to anything a person believe is their source of strength - Jufa
http://theillusionofgod.yuku.com

One must go through the mind to get beyond the mind.

Got that jufa,
didn't you know?
must have blinked.

-Jufa-
One must go through the mind to get beyond the mind.

-tomas-
Where's the entry point to this .. mind?

If your 'sense apparatus',
sensed,
like the sensing apparatus, 'electron microscope' senses...

what would it look like?

Tomas wrote:-Jufa-
One must go through the mind to get beyond the mind.

-tomas-
Where's the entry point to this .. mind?

There is an entrance below, above, under and all around the conscious mind, blink, and you'll find it.

Never give power to anything a person believes is their source of strength - jufa

http://theillusionofgod,.yuku.com

Dennis Mahar wrote:If your 'sense apparatus',
sensed,
like the sensing apparatus, 'electron microscope' senses...

what would it look like?

Whatever image you apply to you.

Never give power to anything a person believes is their source of strength - jufa

http://theillusionofgod,.yuku.com

An image can be presented as a pointer to 'shift' someone's always already thought continuum.
While images are aren't true nature, are empty, as effect, they can point..
They are like projections on a screen.

What happened to you jufa,
that caused your cognition concerning reality?

Dennis Mahar wrote:An image can be presented as a pointer to 'shift' someone's always already thought continuum.
While images are aren't true nature, are empty, as effect, they can point..
They are like projections on a screen.

What happened to you jufa,
that caused your cognition concerning reality?

I change my own diapers. I will not change yours.

"The Moving Finger" which "Writes, Having Writ, Moves On" into the expansion of the moment in order for Spirit to be the equal will of God everywhere. Tick tock, tick tock, tick tock.

Never give power to anything a person believes is their source of strength - jufa

http://theillusionofgod.yuku.com

What happened jufa?

Dennis Mahar wrote:What happened jufa?

Never give power to anything a person believe is their source of strength - Jufa

http://theillusionofgod,.yuku.com

jufa wrote:

Tomas wrote:-Jufa-
One must go through the mind to get beyond the mind.

-tomas-
Where's the entry point to this .. mind?

There is an entrance below, above, under and all around the conscious mind, blink, and you'll find it.

I like you, Jufa. Now we're getting somewhere...

Take this further.

I'm not religious nor abide by holy books of whatever stripe. There's good 'n bad in them all. Prolly lost in the translation.

Spiritual, but not religious.

In the grand scheme of things...

When does this mind first appear?

Conception?

As a zygote?

Transition from zygote to male / female stage of five months or so?

At birth?

First breath?

Four months?

Teething?

Pubic hair / armpit odor?

Twelve years old?

Hmm?

Never give power to anything a person believe is their source of strength - Jufa

That's a command, or commandment or rule you have.
A conviction and a dire warning.

It's also a conclusion drawn.
therefore there must be premises behind it.
what are they?

or is it intuition?

it's not enough to be pulpit driven,
upon what basis does it operate?

Can you see everything you say has an undisclosed algebra behind it,
yet you deny reasoning.

Dennis Mahar wrote:

Never give power to anything a person believe is their source of strength - Jufa

That's a command, or commandment or rule you have.
A conviction and a dire warning.

It's also a conclusion drawn.
therefore there must be premises behind it.
what are they?

or is it intuition?

it's not enough to be pulpit driven,
upon what basis does it operate?

Can you see everything you say has an undisclosed algebra behind it,
yet you deny reasoning.

"My My My Delilah"

Samson should have had such a rule, conviction, a conclusive platform.

I told you before I will not change your diapers.

What I say does not have an undisclosed algebra behind it, I say what I mean, and mean what I say, and can go as far in authority of clothing it as one will dare go in challenging unclothing it.

But should one have not gone through the mind to get beyond the mind to eat what I offer, how can they reach, grasp taste, and partake of the flavor of that which they are unaware of?

I'm putting a brand new flava in yo ear. Should you not be able to adapt, keep on listening to what you have been indoctrinated into prisoner.

Never give power to anything a person believe is their source of strength - Jufa

http://theillusionofgod,.yuku.com

But should one have not gone through the mind to get beyond the mind to eat what I offer, how can they reach, grasp taste, and partake of the flavor of that which they are unaware of?

There you go,
there is a recipe.

Tomas wrote:

jufa wrote:

Tomas wrote:-Jufa-
One must go through the mind to get beyond the mind.

-tomas-
Where's the entry point to this .. mind?

There is an entrance below, above, under and all around the conscious mind, blink, and you'll find it.

I like you, Jufa. Now we're getting somewhere...

Take this further.

I'm not religious nor abide by holy books of whatever stripe. There's good 'n bad in them all. Prolly lost in the translation.

Spiritual, but not religious.

In the grand scheme of things...

When does this mind first appear?

Conception?

As a zygote?

Transition from zygote to male / female stage of five months or so?

At birth?

First breath?

Four months?

Teething?

Pubic hair / armpit odor?

Twelve years old?

Hmm?

Never has anything been proven as absolute to me. If there is an absolute it is what I am. I am alive and aware. Religion, science, philosophy, education, politics, none has a base of definition which any person can stand upon and say; This is it for all mankind. Why? because definition is not stabilized. There is never an end to discovery.

Discovery is the science of expansion of ones knowledge pertaining to their individual life and desire to know what is not known. Of ones religions/nonreligious percepts. Of ones philosophy, education, acceptance of particular values and moral codes.

What we know is all we know. What we don't know is a guess until we know. So debates will always be. And personal involvement is, in its own way, man's scientific way of the discovering his feelings about certain people, places, and things, but not about the mission of righteousness to know God aright he has cast aside for the pursue of the history of man.


Never give power to anything a person believe is their source of strength - Jufa

http://theillusionofgod,.yuku.com

Dennis Mahar wrote:

But should one have not gone through the mind to get beyond the mind to eat what I offer, how can they reach, grasp taste, and partake of the flavor of that which they are unaware of?

There you go,
there is a recipe.

The recipe has always been before you -

-Jufa-
One must go through the mind to get beyond the mind.

-

And eye opens,

Never give power to anything a person believe is their source of strength - Jufa
http://theillusionofgod.yuku.com

Gaping hole.
Void.
No recipe.

Dennis Mahar wrote:Gaping hole.
Void.
No recipe.

Not my problem.

Never give power to anything a person believe is their source of strength - Jufa
http://theillusionofgod.yuku.com

jufa wrote:What are conditions? Conditions in the world of man are attachment to souls which are eternally believed as the truth of the moment. Eternity is the moment of awareness now which is fulfilled in the blink of and eye.

And eye opens,
A sun shines,
The universe blinks - Michael
============================
The universe blinks
Light appears out of the darkness
Eyes open to adjust

Eyes close
The sun shines on
The darkness lives
Both are alive in
The blinks of the universe - jufa

That which was, yet is not, is an object of awareness. In the blink of an eye the object is no more in the moment of eternity, but it is a unfulfilled subject of memory. But the reality of the fulfilled object seen between the blink continues in the infinity of the continuance of the blink.

Eternal is the subject of the moment. The moment comes. The moment is. The moment is no more. The infinite source of the moment is Spirit. Spirit appears as a subject of awareness in the flesh world, but because flesh is impermanent, the moment the subject is believed conditional to reality, the subject is eradicated by the impermanence of yet the very continuance of "The Moving Finger" which "Writes, Having Writ, Moves On" into the expansion of the moment in order for Spirit to be the equal will of God everywhere. Tick tock, tick tock, tick tock.

The four seasons give credence to the above without religions, psychological, math, or other scientific involvement or input by the ticking of the moment. In absoluteness the seasons of the the earth year come and go moment by moment by moment [Tick tock, tick tock, tick tock] because the earth continually spin and revolve upon an unidentifiable axis which the human mind can understand according to its knowledge of the gravitational checks and balance, yet cannot comprehend gravities reality beyond human understanding.

Our understanding sprouts from what we have gathered from, and through our intermingling living, digestion of hearing, seeing, touching, tasting, smelling, thinking, and interpretations of knowledge and understanding which does not belong to us personally. All we are of and received came to us from the ethereal of Consciousness. And to say this is not so is to say Consciousness is not omnipresent. To say Consciousness is not omnipresent, one must present a time, space, distance and matter where Consciousness is not. This is impossible. Any moment time, place, distant, or matter comes to mind, Consciousness is there as Spirit awareness.

To say "so what" is not an option of our to say or choice to choose. What is really being said is, my senses cannot reach that. I can't put my finger on that which is illusive to my human logic and reasoning, and being so, it doesn't matter. This mean because of religion, philosophy, scientific examinations and reported analysis, the higher one of intellectual logic believes in mind rational, the more their reasoning and beliefs are confound with questions which have no ending.

One must go through the mind to get beyond the mind.

Never give power to anything a person believe is their source of strength - Jufa
http://theillusionofgod.yuku.com

Spiritual condemnation is the beginning of what?

ForbidenRea asked: Spiritual condemnation is the beginning of what?

It is to myself Manifesto Cynicism.

Never give power to anything a person believe is their source of strength - Jufa
http://theillusionofgod.yuku.com

jufa wrote: Never has anything been proven as absolute to me. If there is an absolute it is what I am. I am alive and aware. Religion, science, philosophy, education, politics, none has a base of definition which any person can stand upon and say; This is it for all mankind. Why? because definition is not stabilized. There is never an end to discovery.

Yeah, pretty much what is happening (all over the universe) has been going on, forever?

I'd say it's a subjective term based on a person's categorization of each stone's importance in the sedimentary water. I'd choose self awareness as beginning of mind, this is when experiments begin, conciousness is a curious creature.

Hop, jump and or skip, and if you are lucky fall in and die.