No Beginning.. no End!

Discussion of the nature of Ultimate Reality and the path to Enlightenment.
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Re: No Beginning.. no End!

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Pincho Paxton wrote:
Gurrb wrote:i find a lot of these discussions end up at the same thing... the universe is inexplicably infinite and the origin of human.
Maybe you want things to be that way, because I have been posting the opposite. For me it says that the Universe has an outer surface, so it has an end, and it's origin is change.
If the universe has an end what is outside its end?
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Re: No Beginning.. no End!

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Glostik91 wrote:
Pincho Paxton wrote:
Gurrb wrote:i find a lot of these discussions end up at the same thing... the universe is inexplicably infinite and the origin of human.
Maybe you want things to be that way, because I have been posting the opposite. For me it says that the Universe has an outer surface, so it has an end, and it's origin is change.
If the universe has an end what is outside its end?
It's membrane.
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Re: No Beginning.. no End!

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Pincho Paxton wrote:
Glostik91 wrote:If the universe has an end what is outside its end?
It's membrane.
What's outside the membrane, if not more of the universe?
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Re: No Beginning.. no End!

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Nick Treklis wrote:
Pincho Paxton wrote:
Glostik91 wrote:If the universe has an end what is outside its end?
It's membrane.
What's outside the membrane, if not more of the universe?
The membrane is infinite, but we live inside the bubble. The bubble is the universe, and the membrane is outside of it.
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Re: No Beginning.. no End!

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really just different classifications for essentially the same thing. the membrane is infinite. let's consider the membrane the universe's potential. if the universe has the potential to be infinite and it is expanding into the 'infinite' membrane, then it too is infinite.
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Gurrb wrote:really just different classifications for essentially the same thing. the membrane is infinite. let's consider the membrane the universe's potential. if the universe has the potential to be infinite and it is expanding into the 'infinite' membrane, then it too is infinite.
Well its expanding into an infinite membrane, but it has scale. There's also a point at its centre that is crushing inwards into collapse, it may reach a point where the collapse, and the expansion equal zero, which means stop, and then something changes.
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Isaiah 10: 1,2

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philo beddoe wrote:
Tomas wrote:.
The first shall be last and the last shall be first. Isaiah 10:1, 2
This doesn't so much qualify as eternity as it does the placement of God's followers within his kingdom and how they regard themselves.
That's not my reading of Isaiah 10:1, 2 > http://nasb.scripturetext.com/isaiah/10.htm
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