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Discussion of the nature of Ultimate Reality and the path to Enlightenment.
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Post by bert »

subconsciousness is just an other regio of consciousness.it is always 'here',but difficult to connect with.why is it named subconsciousness?

subconsciousness is as subsurface to consciousness.
its is not immediately accessible to introspection.

there is a thing called automatic drawing and writing.

wisdom also works from the subcon.haven't we all experienced 'inspiration',a flash that wakens a new conception. ""EUREKA" some have said,or just "funny".
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bert wrote:subconsciousness is just an other regio of consciousness.it is always 'here',but difficult to connect with.why is it named subconsciousness?

subconsciousness is as subsurface to consciousness.
its is not immediately accessible to introspection.

there is a thing called automatic drawing and writing.

wisdom also works from the subcon.haven't we all experienced 'inspiration',a flash that wakens a new conception. ""EUREKA" some have said,or just "funny".
Exactly that is what I have constantly. It IS the way I percept. All observations trigger 'EUREKA-moments'. This is my 'intuition' that is fully part of my perception.
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Bert: subconsciousness is just an other regio of consciousness.it is always 'here',but difficult to connect with.why is it named subconsciousness?
Sure, we call it sub-conscious because we think that there is such a thing that we are not really conscious about, and some knowledge is coming from there, and that is because we cannot believe that consciousness is just neuro-chemical process and doing all that.
Bert: wisdom also works from the subcon.haven't we all experienced 'inspiration',a flash that wakens a new conception. ""EUREKA" some have said,or just "funny".
No, “Eureka!” has nothing to do with sub-consciousness, it is only when one discovers through understanding something consciously that he REALIZES as truth about a thing previously unknown, and jumps out of his pants on that conscious realization.
Jorss: It IS the way I percept. All observations trigger 'EUREKA-moments'. This is my 'intuition' that is fully part of my perception.
And that is because of what? Because hidden knowledge pops up from a sub-conscious realm into you conscious realm, or that you have deliberately made an effort to find an answer to a question, and placed 2+2 in perspective and logically come up with 4, and shout out Eureka!

Trust me, I know exactly what you are talking about or going through, I am in a similar kind of boat, I struggle to even talk. My friend who knows me from childhood, (I can count my “friends” on the fingers of a single hand), says that my problem is that I think faster than I can speak, so when I speak it becomes incoherent at times, hence he jokes that there must be a loose connection between my brains and my tongue. This happens when I write too, because I literally forget where I started and simply flow with the next connective thought according to what is logically connected according to me. I have yet to make that friend understand what I am all about even after 30 years of acquaintance since we first meet as school classmates.

In a way, although I have not been diagnosed, I know for sure that I am at least dyslexic. I cannot remember a spelling more that a few minutes. May be because I rely mostly on sound and their meanings rather than spellings, just as you rely on a pictorial memory. Even for short passages, I need to type it as a word document only to see red all over.

Take a look…

Conciousness, intution, clearity, incoherant, perception, perspective,

Well, I got two right…

I can’t think right now of what I generally type wrongly, but there has to always be many repeated mistakes that I might have typed hundreds of times earlier. Even in this line I wrote Generally as Generelly.

I was about to post in that thread where you have expressed your “problem”, and say that placing quotation marks to emphasize a word is far easier than placing the text in the posting area and then highlight it for some HTML code. By that time one is lost as to what one wants to highlight because that thought of emphasizing a particular area comes as and when you write it, not necessarily when you re-read it. At least I get lost, and have to deliberately re-read my post a couple of times to catch what I need to highlight.

So I use as little as possible of highlighting or placing things within quotation marks, and sometimes forget to do it in the places that needed the most.

I can do the same highlighting in a word document too, but the HTML code is hidden, and when I cut and paste it in the post area, all the highlighting is gone because the HTML code does not appear. Dud!

Ah! I do make it a point to Preview my post a few times to correctly highlight a Quote, and that I remember because I place the name in front of the quote.

In any case, I don't forget what I necessarily give all importance too, other things don't really matter, for example having dinner or sleeping in a timely manner are not necessarily that important, compared to Thinking and enjoying consciousness.
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i'm bored,sapius.

good luck to you.

have a nice life.
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bert wrote:i'm bored,sapius.

good luck to you.

have a nice life.
No problems. I was simply pointing out the way I see things, through 'gezond verstand', but thanks for letting me know.

And also thanks for those kind gestures, and I wish you a nice life too, ten times over :)
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Well, well well how about a chess game?

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I understand that flashing camera like memory holders are emprical genius but how about chess game?
Chess genius like Bobby Fisher did not need to practice chess on table cause from their own numerous experiences, they can create snapshots of momentum picture of chess pieces on table. Plus, they could move the pieces and cancel or advance the scenes to next pictures in analytical way in their minds.
This is a great example of triumphant combo of minds and subconscience...
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Well, well well how about a chess game?

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I understand that flashing camera like memory holders are emprical genius but how about chess game?
Chess genius like Bobby Fisher did not need to practice chess on table cause from their own numerous experiences, they can create snapshots of momentum picture of chess pieces on table. Plus, they could move the pieces and cancel or advance the scenes to next pictures in analytical way in their minds.
This is a great example of triumphant combo of minds and subconscience...
revive socialism!
sanchez

Haven't found an answer

Post by sanchez »

I once asked myself this question, " How is it possible that I can even ever exist?"...
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Post by sue hindmarsh »

Sanchez,

Did you come up with an answer to your question?

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Sue,

That is a good question. Have I found an answer for my question. I guess not, sue. That is why I am asking this question, " How is it possible that I can even really exist?"
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Re: Haven't found an answer

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sanchez wrote:I once asked myself this question, " How is it possible that I can even ever exist?"...
By the virtue of the fact that “you” are asking that question.
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It is in our nature to question everything. I was only 10 years old when I came upon the question.
If I exist in the now that means I am producing some kind of energy force that is probably affecting the entire universe.
If God can create the universe, who can create God?
Human beings are imperfect which would make God the ultimate energy source for which we rely on. If God is all perfect and all knowing, then we as human beings can be his outlet. In our imperfection we are providing that God has all the answers to the universal picture.
We have no way of communicating with God.
If God can create something out of nothing, then I am probably something that is nothing created from nothing that has no origin.
Hence, the question, " How is it that I can really exist?"
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Post by Matt Gregory »

The first thing you need to do, Sanchez, is define your terms. Otherwise, you won't get anywhere.

What do you mean by "I"? What do you mean by "exist"? What do you mean by "infinite"? What do you mean by "universe"? What do you mean by "God"? Etc., etc.
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Fuck. Never mind.
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sanchez wrote:It is in our nature to question everything. I was only 10 years old when I came upon the question.
If I exist in the now that means I am producing some kind of energy force that is probably affecting the entire universe.
If God can create the universe, who can create God?
Human beings are imperfect which would make God the ultimate energy source for which we rely on. If God is all perfect and all knowing, then we as human beings must be his outlet. In our imperfection we are providing that God has all the answers to the universal picture.
We have no way of communicating with God.
If God can create something out of nothing, then I am probably something that is nothing created from something that has no origin.
Hence, the question, " How is it that I can really exist?"
That's good, real good!
Fuck. Never mind.
Ah! That's good too!
Dave: What do you mean by "I"? What do you mean by "exist"? What do you mean by "infinite"? What do you mean by "universe"? What do you mean by "God"? Etc., etc.
Read the above again, and then go and find those definitions on your own for yourself, not for anyone else. Only when you can accept the definitions to be truly true, through reasoning, can you talk about any real meaning of a sentence.
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