Frank,
I agree S.
Please don’t take this as an insult, or
my pride; actually it does not really matter if ultimately you or anybody agrees to ME or not, or someone agrees to YOU or not, but that does not mean that one should not show any agreemant at all too. And also, that doesn’t mean that one has to be a stubborn mule and act unreasonably or stop asking questions, or stop thinking any further and be open, because of his pride in what he "knows".
What I’m about to try and explain below should be at least understood, but if ‘Realized’, one will find that it was the KEY to the end of “sufferings†so to speak.
Recognition...each brain recognises it's own particular version of Truth depending on prior Causes including genetics, conditioning, education.
Differentiation... the Logician assigns 'what's recognised' into Categories and the observation of Properties...
'In order to' have Reaction...Action...Activity...
STOP! JUST simply STOP! STOP “Justifying†what you bloody well already know for certain. Which now should be the other way around – Consciousness = RDR (recognition-differentiation-reaction) = (A=A). STOP HERE, stop at (A=A), END of story. STOP the knowledge based
justification of ‘in order to’, because of, therefore, etc. Once you know, you KNOW.
Ones whole knowledge culminates into just one meaningfully understood and Realized THOUGHT, which is expressed in the most plain and simple expression (A=A). This expression encompasses the nature of existence, as in its natural state, which = “Reality†= Duality = (A=A), which not only means that a thing is a thing, but also identifies THAT thing against ALL that is NOT THAT thing. Duality! = (A=A).
How do we know that? Or how are we aware of that? Again through – RDR which is = (A=A). How does even that come about? Again (A=A). Because things react to things. And how or why does that happen? That happens because of Cause and Effect… and what is THAT based on? Again (A=A), because reactions of one thing, which is but an EFFECT, becomes a CAUSE that creates the next Reaction, an Effect, which again becomes the cause of the next effect. Hence Causality is dynamic.
Now the mother of all questions – what the hell DRIVES this Process itself? (which according to me is an illogical question) Because – Hey! You already know THAT! Things are driving Things, because of a dynamic cause and effect PROCESS, which makes (A=A) DYNAMIC, because otherwise nothing would exist OR be KNOWN to exist. Which essentially, WE (a ‘reasoning’ thing – a product of (A=A)) detects as “cause and effectâ€, which is Empty because it is just a detected PROCESS, and cannot be questioned as to how it came about, because that is an infinite process, hence we cannot ask “when or where does it begin, so as to know how it came about. The QUESTION itself is WRONG. Hence there is NOTHING that underlies this cause and effect process. It is just a process, which is detectable by a detect-ty, and that detect-ty is also created by the same process.
There is absolutely NOTHING that underlies, that “drives†things! Things drive things! And since we cannot believe just THAT, because of our Dual nature, and that we are driven to search an answer because of that same Duality, which creates a question that actually has NO answer, because we are driven to THINK that there necessarily has to be ONE Ultimate Truth, logically, which if further deciphered, will make it clear that there CANNOT be any Ultimate-ness, because (A=A) is the Truth, and yet NOT an Ultimate-ness in any sense, because that by ITSELF, is absolutely Empty and Meaningless, so what Un-Ultimate Truth can one compare to an Ultimate ONE? All is Reality, and there is ONLY ALL, not ONE in any sense.
Our search for THAT which lies beneath, or underlies, or “stays hiddenâ€, generates the ideas of “emptinessâ€, Tao, hidden Void, etc., etc.
Coming back to the original point; One has to stop an on going justification of what he has already Realized. If one realizes this A=A as expressed above, then all justifications should stop. End of the “knowledge†that ‘justifies’ it any further, and then even words become exactly what they are, an A=A created tool, which is now nothing more than – Recognition – Differentiation – Reaction = (A=A), and should be used as such.
Thoughts like; ‘in order to’, because of, therefore, hence, thence, so on and so forth…. Should not actually arise at all, at least internally, because you already know why even THAT comes about! (A=A) – end of story!
Actually one is not justifying this to another, but is actually trying to justify it to HIMSELF, and looking for a confirmation of his own justification from another. But is THAT actually possible? Absolutely Not!
Let me try and explain that too.
You see, if two people are watching a picture, and both say that it is beautiful, or that I see Truth in it, does that mean that they agree? May be, but Not necessarily. Because one might take the color scheme to be beautiful, and the other the scene. The point is, HOW have they arrived at it? Now how could one actually find out that they are TOTALLY in agreement? For that one has to think and match –(now think about this very carefully)- each and every causality created moments that has culminated to an apparent thought, which another agrees to, BUT, firstly it is obvious that one could match back only certain previous “similar†causes and not beyond that, and secondly, NO SINGLE thing has the EXACT same previous causes that has culminated into a seemingly agreed THOUGHT that both hold NOW.
Taking that a bit further, why do the “enlightened†say that they do not need any confirmation of what they know?
Taking the above “picture†example, and replacing that with Truth, One can see that it is actually IMPOSSIBLE to confirm what you know, because WHO the hell in all of this existence can Confirm any thing for YOU, when one cannot even match back more than ‘memory’ allowed matching? Hence ONE is actually all alone, because of his absolute uniqueness. When it comes to Actual confirmation, it Actually cannot be done. And if exactly this part is understood, one actually stops looking for confirmation, for he knows that that is NOT possible. And this Realization itself is a confirmation in its self.
Comparability cannot be actually done, hence the thought of real comparative-ness in and of things disappear, and hence the separated-ness too, ONLY CONCEPTUALLY, NOT that it actually makes ANY TWO things ONE, because when conceptualizing the un-separated-ness, one is fully aware of its own Dual nature, A=A, which is making possible the thought of un-separated-ness.
It is really hilarious when one says that I am Enlightened, and hence ONLY
I can see if another is “enlightenedâ€. How the hell can he? When he cannot actually even confirm that HE is “enlightenedâ€, to himself. So what the hell is he comparing? Two absolutely unique things that say - YES, I agree? That YOU are speaking the Truth, so we now KNOW that there is ONE Ultimate Truth? The “enlightened†doesn’t have any absolute confirmation himself, so how can he give any confirmation to another, about HIM? THAT is impossible! Comparing conclusions are like comparing superficial similarities, and that does not say anything about any particular mind as to HOW it has reached a certain conclusion, or what actual reasoning is behind it, which makes him really accept what he accepts. So what the hell are we actually comparing?
It's all in the Wonderful Game.
Really? If you say so…
The main Category looks to be boiling things down to Good/Bad or how it affects 'My Survival'...'Our Survival'.
Hummm……. well, the MAIN Category? May be, but I see that too as A=A. Can you? :D
