GENIUS FORUMS

Dr. Freud noted how neurotics cannot tolerate ambiguity, and therefore jump to conclusions. And also, as contradictory facts emerge, he commented on the ingenuity they apply to explain to themselves why they think the way they do.

Nowhere in all history do we have such a brilliant example of mass neurosis as in 911. The mass media quickly broadcast explanations provided them by received authority, and the 911 commission, rather than air alternative explanations, did all it could to support the official party line. There was no real investigation, and now we have reports by commissioners saying they were lied to. But no perjury charges are pending either.

If we look at history, we see a long line of falsflag events. The Gulf of Tonkin, The Sinking of the Maine, and the wars with Mexico for the sake of conquest. There were contrary voices about these too, but never have we seen such a consistent pattern of objection and an ongoing effort to reveal the facts, as we now see going on over 911. And whereas the rest of the world media didnt really care that much about these previous examples of falseflag events, nowadays there is a slowly increasing number of efforts going on both within the USA, and globally. Most especially in Europe, which understands the derivative culture in America better.

The regimes and politicians which supported the official US government position are being replaced. The Swiss, for example, have used their considerable financial analysis expertise to reveal unusual put calls just before 9/11/2001, and demonstrated how Wall Street insiders profited. That lesson has not been lost on global investors, who are now withdrawing their money; and we see the decline in asset values.

While you can certainly fool enuf of an irrational electorate to get majorities, the global financial community is not as neurotically blind in the same way. Their problem is that they already have so much invested in the Untied States of Denial that they cannot withdraw it fast enuf to have the rest not drop to zero while they try. Never mind the little matter of 9 trillion in US treasury notes backed only by the "full faith and Credit of the US government".

Julius Caesar:"The Gauls are slaves to uncertain reports". And so is the global financial community looking at what is being posted online. It aint like the old days when central authority could control what was printed in the newspapers, and when regimes seized opposition printing equipment.

Some of that opposition has suggested the power elite's full steam ahead policy risks the sinking of the ship of state. As may be; I do not know. I can, however, understand the effort to stock lifeboats. But there is another alternative. The ship of state could just as easily run aground. Our comfortable lives will be over, we'll get cold wet feet walking to shore, but many of us will, like with so many after the fall of other empires, muddle thru the muck looking for more comfortable accomodations in whatever strange new land we find ourselves in.

The power elite on the bridge and first class will commandeer whatever resources remain aboard saying the tide will turn and they will get it afloat again. But even if so, it no longer has the fuel to really go anywhere. For everyone else, the changes will be so traumatic that they will either shatter neurotic delusion (which is how Dr. Freud says its done), or result in complete mental breakdown and psychosis.

The other thing he says about neurotics when they wake up to reality, is that they are grouchy in the new light of day. It seems the new fed Chairman is aware of this, saying that financial stress must be lessened on the lower and middle classes. If enuf of them are in bankruptcy or foreclosure, that will get them off the couch, away from the TV, and out into the world to see what the fuck is really going on in such numbers as to result in massive civil unrest, and the likelihood of demagogues arising who say to drag the bastards out to be shot. Bernanke dont want to be on the wrong side of that.

For those few of us who rationally look at all this can see that both the neurotics and the psychotics will be difficult, even dangerous, to deal with. Just cause you didnt cause the problem dont mean you wont be scapegoated. We see the anger, flaming, ad hominum online aimed at anyone who deviates from the conventional lack of wisdom. How much will we see in person? Be careful who your friends are.

Of course, there are ongoing efforts to get global investors, oil sheiks, etc to pony up the money to keep the system afloat while we try to work something out. The Chinese glyph for danger includes that of opportunity, and vice versus. The mass neurosis we see, of which 911 is but one part, is blind to a lot of economic opportunity as well.

The corruption on Wall Street, which gave us notable examples like Worldcom and Enron, destroyed a lot of middle class investment and pension funds. The effect was to drive the middle class into local real estate where they thot they knew what they owned. But now they can all see that was itself based on the fundamentals of the local economy, of which Michigan and the auto industry is the most obvious victim, but seen in many states.

California, which had been at the top, an early adaptor in so many ways, now faces a budget deficit this year of 3 billion with 9 billion more next year. Its a lot more than just the dot com bust. History shows that with the collapse of empire, asset values are best retained in obscure, not leading, locations. Thus, Alaska and Arkansas have led the nation in the retention of real estate values. Both of which also have significant energy assets. Oil in AK, natural gas in AR.

And neither of which have been active in the conservative social moral values issues like abortion or liberal issues like gay marriage, but paid more attention to infrastructure and resource management. In part it is that rural populations are less neurotic; local resource management, like farming and timber, makes people focus more on reality than political hype.

And from a global market standpoint, those states which manage their resource base rather than get all wound up in liberal or convervative social issues will do better whether the national economy figures it out, or we are all thrown back on whatever the local economy has to work with. Its easier to be neurotic in an urban environment where the impact of how other people feel is more important.

So rather than trying to argue with them about 911 or the other issues that fire up such zealotry, you'd do better to look for areas where the level of rhetoric is more civil. Neurotics tend to be certain about what they think they think they know, while the more rational can tolerate the ambiguity of our situation.

For instance, California filled the media machine with illegal immigration, multi-culturalism, gay marriage, family values, environmentalism, and now a 3 billion dollar deficit. Arkansas didnt do any of that, and had a special session legislature last spring to deal with a 919 million dollar *surplus*. There's the state of the nation, but then there's the state of the states.

The new AR gov reported they will invest more in education (which in many towns is dramatically better than the national average already), infrastucture, and the re-equipping of the national guard. The Federal government can still call up the troops, but to widespread approval, the equipment will not leave the state to go to Iraq or anywhere else, with the gov's consent. Alaska is similarly investing the increase they have in oil revenues.

Since the federal government cannot control the borders, other states are working on more independence for state militias to control their own borders. It was not lost on Arkansans either that the national guard was unable to respond appropriately to tornados last spring- because they were in Iraq.

If the system were able to reopen a competent 911 investigation it would recover some confidence from both the rational among us and the global investment community. But that would also expose the incompetence and corruption of the American media spin machine. So far, none of the presidential candidates have said a word about it. but if the economy continues to worsen and middle class stress increase, we can expect some candidate whose poll numbers need a boost, to break with the pack and ask for congressional hearings. Not only into 911, but the whole way that the corporate media manipulates what the electorate gets to know.

i know this rant has gotten kinda long, but we dont need to limit ourselves to just soundbytes. Maybe we can use the practice to lengthen our attention span to inter-related complex and ambiguous issues.

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Big Oil and the War on Drugs and Terrorism

Alexandre de Tocqueville described 'regime de la terreur' as a methodology to make the masses familiar with the realities created by elites.

The 11th day of September was a most remarkable day in the 20th century and early third millennium:

http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/O ... orism.html


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Tomas wrote:.
Big Oil and the War on Drugs and Terrorism
Alexandre de Tocqueville described 'regime de la terreur' as a methodology to make the masses familiar with the realities created by elites.

The 11th day of September was a most remarkable day in the 20th century and early third millennium:
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/O ... orism.html
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Collecting facts to derive a bigger picture is often useful, but then there's the devil in the details.
from the above website:
"That virtually all the oil supplies for the German Empire came from the Mosul field in present-day Iraq explains the fighting in the Dardanelles"
Rumania has had oil and tar seeps in commercial operation since the Neolithic. Germany & Anatolia have put the squeeze on SE Europe ever since the rise of Islam and the Ottomans split up the Byzantine empire with the barbarians. The popes entered in also wanting to eradicate the other brand of Christianity.

But yes, the Great Game still goes on. The European cultures've struggled for global dominance like lawyers contesting in court over an estate. But no matter who wins the case, the lawyers get rich. The Jewish lawyers the richest.

But these too, you can track back to the conversion of the Khazar power elite to Judaism in the late 8th and 9th century. Who even back then were a merchant class, and a lot smarter than the usual dumb fuck European barbarian.

If the European kings and aristocracy had not been so stupidly greedy, and therefore unwilling to trust their own people, there wouldda been no need to import Khazak- Ashkenazic Jews- to run their bureaucracies. Who, being "jews" in a Christian culture, they knew would never be able to pull a coup to replace them.

So too, Jews are still called on by the power elite, indeed have become the power elite, to run things. Which is only necessary cause sheeple are too neurotic and stupid to get by without competent case management. I dont have a problem considering replacing Jews in the power structure- if you will supply me with a list of who you propose to replace them with. Nobody ever has.

Dr. Freud was a Jew, and to this day, Jewish shrinks manage far more than just Jewish cases. Jews, more than any other group, understand just how stupid and fucking crazy people are. If you dont like Jews running the world, I guess you could try Nazis.

Dr. Freud was a Jew, and to this day, Jewish shrinks manage far more than just Jewish cases. Jews, more than any other group, understand just how stupid and fucking crazy people are.

Well, he certainly was not free of his own aberrations. It is true that only the utterly insane understand the utterly insane. He understood the most insane riff-raff.

If you dont like Jews running the world, I guess you could try Nazis.

Wow. We only have these two choices---"Jews" or "Nazis"? Amazing. How about sane individuals, daybrown? Do they exist?

daybrown wrote:

Tomas wrote:.
Big Oil and the War on Drugs and Terrorism
Alexandre de Tocqueville described 'regime de la terreur' as a methodology to make the masses familiar with the realities created by elites.

The 11th day of September was a most remarkable day in the 20th century and early third millennium:
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/O ... orism.html
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-Daybrown-
Collecting facts to derive a bigger picture is often useful, but then there's the devil in the details.
from the above website:

"That virtually all the oil supplies for the German Empire came from the Mosul field in present-day Iraq explains the fighting in the Dardanelles"




-Daybrown-
Rumania has had oil and tar seeps in commercial operation since the Neolithic. Germany & Anatolia have put the squeeze on SE Europe ever since the rise of Islam and the Ottomans split up the Byzantine empire with the barbarians. The popes entered in also wanting to eradicate the other brand of Christianity.

-tomas-
Yes, seems 'those people' have had a lot of practice to put into place their particular brand of slavery.




-Daybrown-
But yes, the Great Game still goes on. The European cultures've struggled for global dominance like lawyers contesting in court over an estate. But no matter who wins the case, the lawyers get rich. The Jewish lawyers the richest.

-tomas-
Hey now! - how'd you know I have a Jewish law firm run my company?




-Daybrown-
But these too, you can track back to the conversion of the Khazar power elite to Judaism in the late 8th and 9th century. Who even back then were a merchant class, and a lot smarter than the usual dumb fuck European barbarian.

-tomas-
Yup, I'll be sure to put in an extra zero when I pay up my tax accoutants, they are also Jewish.




-Daybrown-
If the European kings and aristocracy had not been so stupidly greedy, and therefore unwilling to trust their own people, there wouldda been no need to import Khazak- Ashkenazic Jews- to run their bureaucracies. Who, being "jews" in a Christian culture, they knew would never be able to pull a coup to replace them.

-tomas-
Oh well, there's always Bush & Cheney to turn to :-(




-Daybrown-
So too, Jews are still called on by the power elite, indeed have become the power elite, to run things. Which is only necessary cause sheeple are too neurotic and stupid to get by without competent case management. I dont have a problem considering replacing Jews in the power structure- if you will supply me with a list of who you propose to replace them with. Nobody ever has.

-tomas-
Next full moon I'm eating a couple buds of peyote.




-tomas-
Dr. Freud was a Jew, and to this day, Jewish shrinks manage far more than just Jewish cases. Jews, more than any other group, understand just how stupid and fucking crazy people are. If you dont like Jews running the world, I guess you could try Nazis.

-tomas-
Yeah, "we" have Schwarzeneggar here in Cali. His birth dad was a Nazi party member. When he died - his mom married another "former" Nazi who is now the president of the Austrian parliament. The more things change - they appear to be the same all over again. Hmmm

ps- Bush Family Values




Tomas (the tak)
VietNam veteran - 1971





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When an electorate is not rational, what else can you expect? Jews are arguably neurotic, but Jewesses.... ah that's another matter. For one thing, from my personal experience, they are not guilt tripped about sex, and dont wake in the morning worried about whether I still respect them.

My opinion dont matter that much. As women gain political and economic power, the Jewesses will be, as they already are in so many social services, at the top of the system. Only, they dont need blowjobs during office hours. Dont need a luxury car or high rise penthouse to get laid, and dont bother trying to support a trophy wife at home.

Ever since the Khazars in the 9th century, when they moved to towns that were run by Christians, their men were not in a position to control the mating choices they made. Thus, to be a Jew, one needed to have a Jewish mother. Thus the Jewesses chose the most talented men they could find.

And now that they are moving into the power structures replacing their front men, they are becoming the Uberwench. The Nazis dont really know what they are up against, and dont stand a fucking chance.

Most women are not rational, and Jews are arguably neurotic, but Jewesses.... ah they are Goddesses incarnate. For one thing, from my personal experience, they give blowjobs in hay mows and are not guilt tripped about tripping on LSD in my Chevy pickup. I respect that.

As women appear to gain political and economic power, but are actually becoming greater slaves of the system, the Jewesses will be in so many social services, at the top. They can afford to buy more Gucci purses and vacations to the Wailing Wall. They aren't becoming more conscious so certainly society will not become more enlightened, but I am enamored of the Goddess Ideal, so I spew forth as though it matters.

Ever since the Ozarks, Arkansas in the 19th century, when they moved to towns run by old hippies and good ol' boys, their men were not in a position to control the mating choices they made. Thus, to be a fool, one needed to have a foolish mother. And Jewesses choose the dumbest men they can find.

And now that they are moving unknowingly into the slave structures of their front men, I am caused to perpetuate the myth of the Uberwench. The Nazis dont really know what they are up against, and dont stand a fucking chance. Just thought I'd throw that in, too.

Well thanx Carl. Is that a dialogue?

Not that we dont see a lot of it. I noticed, for instance, when I see a thread on abortion, I can post the data that archeology, forensics, and scholarship produced to reveal some of the herbal abortificants ancient witches used, and how there are now websites for modern 'wiccans' to go to and read about it.

So, it really dont matter anymore what we think, or the courts and legislatures think, they cant control abortion any more. Modern witches are now providing it, herbs across the kitchen table, under the radar. No appointment, no protestor line, no adoption sermon, no parental consent, no doctor bill, and no problems with pharmacists.

Abortion is a dead issue. Yet, when I come back a couple months later to see that the list is talking about, there they all are, still ranting at each other. Dr. Freud had a name for this:"denial". You can post the facts here, or wherever, but they dont really sink into the consciousness.

The egos involved dont really want a resolution; they want to milk the issue for attention, not settle it. This seems to be behind the degenerative process that destroys republics that Machiavelli wrote about. At some point, most people just get tired of all the endless rants, and just want it settled, one way or another. Perhaps you recall how the Roman republic saw intractable political situations also, and therefore selected some man of impeccable character and endowed him with the power such that "his word shall be law" to resolve the disputes. The name for that issue- "dictator".

So- when Hillary takes over, she will inherit all the dictatorial powers Bush has already acquired, but will also inherit a one party political system that will pass, as Gibbon said of Emperor Augustus, only those laws which are asked for. And sure, the rants will go on here and elsewhere like they always have, but they will be only slightly less important trvia.