Skipair,
I found your answer confusing. You are glorifying the ability to fight and demand submission? You find this superior?
You are denigrating the desire to have a baby? So you're antilife too?
Said Isabelle,
It bothers me that this forum presents this as a good thing, and it is getting accepted as a superiority over women.
Perhaps it is a measure of their desperation.
Kevin saith,
Can you expand on what you mean by "status as a woman". I would have thought that avoiding pain through remaining unconscious would be uppermost in her mind, rather than "status". So I'm not clear about what you mean.
Oops. David goofed. He actually allowed women too much masculinity in saying they desire status. He is being gently reprimanded here. But Kevin, even animals have strong pecking orders, both male and female. So maybe you could relent on this one.
BMcGilly,
Avoiding pain through remaining unconscious cannot be uppermost in anyone's mind, for to do so would require conscious effort and thought (a painful experience). She directs her conscious efforts and thought towards her "status" as the highest status is bestowed on those who lead the most pain-free existence- in the sense that the ego drives status.
Thanks B, but the desire to remain unconscious is not a very conscious one and does not require conscious effort. The subconscious handles it nicely.
However, as I've meantioned before women are experts at relationships and 99% of the time leave men in the dust.
This is actually an oft-repeated propaganda piece that I think, if you take a good hard look at people as they actually live, you will see is false.
David describes the low consciousness of typical women, Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:37 am
Absolutely everything you describe could be equally laid at the door of the average man, only of course he wants different frills and decorations as befits his sex.
Dave Toast,
You confuse me. On one hand you say the evidence is irrefutable that women are as unconscious as Kevin says, and on the other you often refute their arguments.
Dan,
My main objection to the main objection [to Woman] is that the whole of Poison is really already about consciousness/unconsciousness. The Woman section is simply addressing one very important facet/manifestation of this.
I dunno. In some ways I think our society is beginning to engage in the conversation about the differences between men and women if only because nonsense can only last so long, and because science isn't complying with the notion that they are the same. But at the same time, a little spur in women might not hurt. They need a kick in the ass.
my cahoonies!
Yikes. The word is cahones, pronounced ka-hoe-nase.
Truth is a pathless land.