David Quinn wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:29 am
Another interesting discussion by Chris Hedges, recorded three days ago, where he gives his latest thoughts on the Trump administration and the state of the world more generally. Still as perceptive and direct as ever. Highly recommended.
Chris Hedges & Abby Martin: No Way Out Through Elections
Very interesting to see this conversation as it encapsulates the larger contradictions in the current discussions at this forum so well. A true exposition of a mindset! Which might be interesting to explore as it would explain why it hits all the cords with David Quinn's personal outlook!
That we're witnessing a particular thought universe unfold becomes clear the moment Chris starts asserting (3:29) that not just Republicans have created the problems way before Trump arrived but also the Democrat "elites" in combinations with "banking" still keeps intact some structure which keeps the poor and vulnerable, feminine population down and 'neo-slavery". He holds Biden responsible for the large prison population
(mostly debunked in the world of facts). Abby happily agrees with all of it as if she ever had an opinion herself.
We see here Presbyterian minister Chris, promoting what only can be called the
new modern world religion with the usual props: victims, sins, saviors and prosecution. And all on a global scale (the new cosmos being the global reach).
Certainly anti-war Chris would have supported Trump: the
only political voice of note in US in 2016 apart from the Paul family, who was openly addressing the Iraq war as the horrible failure as it was. Trump shocked Democats and Reptilians alike by going after G.W Bush and the neoconservative mission for the Middle East ("endless war"). He questioned even the new cold war started by Clinton.
In the end Chris has increasingly become, through his hard-core socialism (which Nietzsche already warned to be the logical successor to Christianity) a clear evangelist for anti-capitalism, anti-corporatism, anti-fascism, pro-Marxist, pro-Climatism, pro-Alarmist.
Abby Martin is yet another story, after having to defend herself against people like David Quinn and Dan Rowden for being a Putin-stooge at Russian Television: “Likening [my reporting] to treason, to being a traitor, to being un-American and unpatriotic, and when you have these words thrown around in a climate of such hysteria … I think that this is extremely, extremely dangerous rhetoric,” she quickly backed away from RT even while "I still had the prime time opinion show on the network for another year" even after speaking in complete freedom "about the actions of Putin, Russia and RT’s coverage of it on air". She still resigned over the annexation of Crimea most likely because of the storm of personal critique she must have received by then. But by all means, the annexation seems like the smallest of issues around Russian aggression and the least harm done to any actual people on the ground, while likely a lot of harm was prevented considering the young divided state of Ukraine was actually, factually breaking up violently, no matter who will be ultimately blamed for all that when historians puzzle over the settling dust in the decades to come.
However, Abby is also known for being a 9/11 "truther", giving voice to the radical inside jobs theories and consistently promoting quite crazy conspiracy theories like water fluoridation as some government plot to poison Americans. No matter her rather stunning appearance and elegant dress sense, her journalistic life describes someone lifting on the wave of spectacle and "hot" topics. It's not a compliment to sit across of her!
So there you have it, a religious, ceremonial exchange, mostly fact-free. This is what David is suggesting to be interesting for the wise, the atheists, the dispassionate thinkers in the world? Where is the thought? The larger view? The consistency? Kevin is wise to have raised his voice against the extremes of this new religious mindset rising in the West. It's a nihilistic, invasive religion. And it should be challenged more, not simply promoted.