Santiago Odo wrote:It would not seem to matter that 'Europe' and 'European identification' came to the fore during the 20th century. In fact it did. And when it did, it attempted to establish definitions and ways of speaking and referring to it that could be communicated.
It does matter as the new nationalistic Right has clearly turned against the project of European identification, this whole "Brussels" project. And there's no
other European project to compete with it. There's no intellectual background to anything related to this "Europe" in your mind. We could speak of course about certain civilizational theories or social-economical or cultural entities instead: Christendom, modernity, capitalism etc. One first needs some
body to develop social theory, after all.
The 'color code' however had been in existence for a good long time
Not really, not in any serious intellectual sense. And the few directions there are certainly can be named "dead ends" when trying to tie anything to "non-Semitic heterosexuals of European descent". Every time we'd try, it seems some stale 19th-century racial taxonomy popping up again and again.
and I would suggest that whatever this 'color code' is is part of a European anthropology: a way of defining different races and groups of people. My own researches have indicated that the core of 'white identity' in this anthropological sense is quite intimately tied to Christian definitions.
And the core of all Christian defining is still a non-white Middle Eastern, Semitic, rather "dark" messianic figure :-)
I've heard the saying: "White People Have No Culture". Or perhaps it's a confusing mixture of oddest recombinations and monstrous hybrids. White culture is perhaps non-distinct by nature, like a
blend? All colors flowing into one --which is the nature of white as achromatic (non-)color-- a color without hue. It's surely the main reason feminization has been made possible and this is described elsewhere. It's interesting to me that "Nouvelle Droite" are specifically hostile to those cultures where women have a more traditional placing and hold this against them. Don't you find that interesting? I think it points to a very crucial point of what your "whiteness" might signify: a woman centric, cunt-driven, fantasy fairy folk mostly from the realized post-utopia "America" and European shadow lands, resisting the "white" ideological universalism by referring to a national mythology and yet, ironically, invoking "white" identity, the very thing they try to resist in the deeper meaning of the word.
As I understand it these definitions --- metaphysical definitions really --- go back to the Middle Ages and to 'The Great Chain of Being'. That is, a hierarchical vision and view of life within this domain where spirit meets matter. In that vision of Reality the highest level that a man can attain to within his mortal frame is the sort of communion offered by Grace from the transcendent figure of Christ. The idea operates in many different ways in many different levels. From social structure, through intellectualism, to politics, to rights. The Medieval and late-Medieval man saw himself as specially privelaged because of his unique relationship to the 'truly salvific' and notably as distinct from the 'people of the Earth' in their demonic relationship to inferior powers & potencies.
Certainly hierarchy and organizing power has been key in all great civilizational developments. As for your attribution of the powers of "saving grace", that seems really more like
retrofitting of stuff. If there's no such thing as "Grace", a transcendent ("mystical") figure of Christ or "salfici" relations as cause -- we'd be back at square one.
In the end this is not even philosophy. What you are doing is seeking certain "strong" ideas, wrap yourself inside those and start propagandizing them online as some "good apostle". Perhaps more like a St. Paul type? Like him, being first the most active in prosecution of the "Qrstians", then turning into a more extreme, advanced Qrstian, taking into the ultimate consequences when projected purely on the social-critical aspects and so become even more driven to chase down all the inner daemons projected on the outer world. You seem to even
need it as some ritual repetition, as a mantra, to prevent you seeing that you arrived at the end but instead seeing the end in others, forums, cultures etc. It's nearly poetic emulation!
One reason is because 'modernism' (in its oh so many different forms) seeks to destroy hierarchical definitions. These efforts stem out of Seventeenth century shifts and changes in viewpoint and idea (metaphysics).
Hierarchical definitions of that kind simply might have expiry dates on them. They can only survive by adapting, morphing into slightly or even radically different notions, even when holding some of the same names for a while. Well, Alex, I hate to bring you the bad tidings but this is the truth which you keep resisting.
Therefor: a definion of 'whiteness' and the recovery of European White Identity is, according to my own developing views, a significant project which is metaphysical in its core premises, revisionist insofar as it turns back toward former metaphysics to draw out useful definitions, and I would also say that it is (or must be) 'religious' because a true metaphysics is in essence a religious or 'existential' platform.
There's already a good word for it: wisdom. Where wisdom has prospered, civilizations sprung up around it. Or perhaps the other way around as well. But the cause of wisdom is not traceable to any diet, genetic disposition (the evolutionarily time-scale is just not suited for it) specific secret system or alignments of planets. Although that last idea cannot be excluded.
If culture is 'downstream' from meta-politics (and from metaphysics) we need to rise up to a point above The Present with all its *outcomes* in skewed liberalism and revision everything.
Sure. But it's the call for wisdom, philosophy and clearheadedness. Or perhaps also a call to dream, to find the "right" illusion to have things set in motion? In any case, it all operates at greater depth and it might not need any "assistance" considering the limited role and capacity of one human being and his imagination.
What interests me --- as one who desires to link to vanguardism --- are those people and groups who are developing local ideologies which are direcly focused on self-identity and self-preservation. The 'Identitarian Movement as in the Nouvelle Droite, Generation Identitaire, Bloc Identitaire, etc.
The Identitarian Movement is "ideologically situated between the Front National, the Nouvelle Droite and Neonazism" but I don't think it's defining feature is focus on self-identity and self-preservation. Simply because I think that is always the case. Only when identities come under pressure, some
resistance is erected, "enshrined" as movement, as protest and full of reactionary sentiment. This in turn become like a wave of energy which can be tapped into by some and steered. Basically all the hallmarks of religious wars which all wars are technically, if the vision of "state" is seen as modern religion.
In other words, all of these movements become part of a process which might oppose the very thing they naively strive for.
Interesting, I notice some Marxists complain that "many have given up and begun reaching out to other oppressed groups in an attempt to build a social base, and a stand-in proletariat". Which would signify a
shift from earlier attempt to liberate economical classes, fighting racial or gender inequalities. Just when it's all close to getting realized and embodies: a
new struggle is suddenly found. Now liberation itself becomes a goal. Forming a movement becomes the goal. Organize colorful protests and parades on TV becomes a goal. Fighting a vague "corrupt" and unreliable government becomes a goal. There's a theme here! One of the spectacle and the vision as ruling forces in a post-modern societies. Only
simulating the flags of liberation but wholly empty on the inside. No ideas fueling it. This is the problem with identity politics, being it SWJ or the fight for white. Bankruptcy of the mind, forced to live on the surface of form!
As I have said it leads 'back to the body' (and I notice that you actually started a very important thread on just that topic, Diebert! I have not had time to explore it but I imagine that you have a great deal to say and that you will post volumes there!) 'Back to the body', as I see it, means 'back to the body of European identity'.
You have little sense yet of what I mean with "body". And that mythological "European identity" of yours is turning out to be a red herring. Can we put it to rest with together with all the "white" fishing expeditions? Whatever you're looking for, it's not related to any singly continent, overly simplified over-revised history books or skin pigmentation. So why keep using those words? Wisdom requires intelligence and respect for the hierarchy of
facts, to assign probability to them to the degree that is warranted. In that way, wisdom is a
body which needs to grow in all of us.
I do not mean a reconstitution of Nazism or Nazi militarism but I do mean the cultural and the metaphysical definitions that form the base of strong self-identity and empowerment.
You would do well to study fascism in more depth and read also some of the standard works. You'll see that the desire and "fascination" with "self-identity and empowerment" was in these case, like with Nazism, mainly a contemporary, reactionary notion
in response to a failing damaged identity. So more like a reaction rising inside a sick body, in a failing society. There was nothing healthy about the Nazi party arising in Germany: it mainly craved to be strong and created as such a perverted system to steamroll its way forward. But it was essentially
suicidal at the core -- which includes, if critical energy levels are available, becoming homicidal at industrial, mechanistic scales. Therefore the core mistake must have been also fundamental: in Germany the hierarchy, the organizing, the belief, the
existential panic: all of this went way out of control, trying to prevent the inevitable: the collapse of spirit. But the German spirit is not dead yet, it was allowed to be reborn as
European, currently as laborious, industrialized woman.
One can now imagine why Nietzsche wished he wrote his books in another language.