Pam wrote:It is no secret that politics and truth cannot meet. And yes, one can know this and participate in political discussions, however, truth is water, politics is oil, you can shake them up, but that's all you can do (discuss). Keeps the mind occupied and intellectually sharp, not suffering-causing, unless of course, attachment to any one view is caused.
A metaphysically wise person knows what is happening behind the scenes and if they choose to step into the scenes all kinds of messy things have the potential to be caused. This is my take on the recent "David's return" scenario, one that of course, extended far beyond David.
The GF project began, as I have said, as a reform project. I assert that it was in its essence a project that involved the revelation of a specific and pre-modern metaphysics and it is upon this metaphysics that it constructed itself. Largely, this can be seen as being a Buddhist metaphysics, which is to say Vedic or post-Vedic, but in essence it is an eastern metaphysic.
In our present we all seem to notice that things are topsy-turvy and absurdly mixed-up. My impression of the GF project as a reform movement was that it noticed this and it did what any concerned person would do and must do: it proposed a corrective. It couched its definitions in a number of areas: noting irrationalism and the abandonment of 'reason'; noticing culture and society giving itself over to the female and the feminine, et cetera.
I suggest that it is 'metaphysical wisdom' to recover a realtionship to metaphysics. I assert that one cannot, in fact, abandon metaphysical definitions even though they are often bound up with story, narrative, a worldpicture deeply enmeshed in the imagination. For this reason I define the GF platform as a metaphysical project and as a religious project essentially. It seems to me, and I say this without malice, that David Dan and Kevin seem now to have disconnected from the project itself. Or, each of them seems to be following disparate lines.
In my view, to define a metaphysics is to define a relationship, conceptually, mentally and spiritually, to an 'upperworld'. The conceptual world, the world of reason and idea, the angelic world, the world of God in the sense of Being or origin outside of manifestation. I regard the destruction of the 'conceptual pathway to a defined metaphysics' as being profoundly negative. I think that one has to ask what is it that destroys that metaphysical linkage. I have often said that this involves locating and describing the 'acid' that eats away at both the self and also the conceptual structure, or ladder, that leads to this 'upper world'.
Now, you say that politics and truth cannot meet and, sure, I grasp what you mean. But I do not agree. In fact I am duty-bound to disagree. We define a metaphysics and then we build in this world in relation to that. The world that we have was built in this way. To understand this requires a delicate, careful and nuanced way of thinking and seeing. It requires 'intellectual preparation' and cannot be done by someone outside of that preparation.
The work of reconstructing a relationship to metaphysics is a fraught affair to the degree that we are captured by the anti-metaphysics of the present. I refer to this as 'the swamp' and I have recently been attempting to break through the Kevlar-like intellectual walls diligently constructed by a local Spider who shall remain unnamed. I assert that the anti-metaphysics of the present is a form of encroaching nescience, and that nescience is, in the language of symbols, the demoniac. Put another way, the demoniac can be symbolically grasped, or intellectually grasped, as nescience
- Nescience: Latin nescientia, from Latin nesciēns, nescient-, present participle of nescīre, to be ignorant : ne-, not; see ne in Indo-European roots + scīre, to know; see skei- in Indo-European roots.
It revolves, I think, around the most essential definitions, which is to say knowledge-of, the very place where we find ourselves. If seems to me that we exist in 'collapsed metaphysics' insofar as the definitions that we have of who and what we are, where and why we are, all all in disarray. Therefor: it became necessary in the GF reform project to redefine a basic metaphysics. In my own case I have enough of a project given to me as a reult of this basic conception to last me a life-time. It is vast, it is rich, it is crucially important, it touches on all important definitions, circumscribes meaning and value in their most relevant senses, and touches my life and all lives acutely. It is the primary definition.
Now, I do not turn to Buddhist metaphysics though I do have some background in, and a tremendous respect for, Vedic metaphysical definitions. I really wish at times that Christian metaphysics had a similar grounding. It is true though that Vedic metaphysics can be described as Medieval metaphysics insofar as it traces back to a pre-modern worldpicture. And it is true as well that Aquinas, rooted in pre-modern metaphysics, interesects with Vedic world conceptions. And it is similarly true that Platonic or Aristotelian worldview is similarly grounded, quite definitely, in a former metaphysics, a metaphysics prior to Modernism and Positivism as we now understand it (as our minds and the function of mind is bound to these ideas).
My idea is that we have to (have to: imperative: must
) recover a Western metaphysics, or an Occidental metaphysics. It is impossible to say, within that domain, that 'truth' and 'politics' do not have a relationship. (Yet I do grasp that you are speaking of Machiavellianism when you refer to politics).
The reason I choose to involve myself in a Western Identity Recovery Project is wrapped up in these definitions, these understandings. I said to Boy Spider at various times that I would 'rewrite Genius Forum'. That is, I would take out of its its essential predicates and rework them to be sufficient models for a person, adrift, severed from his or her matrix, seeking a way back to a sound metaphysics. To say that it is not political is simply absurd. It's everything and all things!