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Re: Ayn Rand quote

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:32 am
by mwolf
I am officially positing my request to dispatch Ayn Rand from the entirety of history.


Her arguments are violently flawed. Libertarianism breeds collectivism through the necessity of nationalism and other forms of conformity. One cannot have a lawless society without universal ethics and expect there to be social acceptance of individuality.

Re: Ayn Rand quote

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 6:23 pm
by Cahoot
Really, there's no need to sacrifice evidence-based reasoning on the alter of random neuron stimulation.

Re: Ayn Rand quote

Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:30 am
by mwolf
Cahoot wrote:Really, there's no need to sacrifice evidence-based reasoning on the alter of random neuron stimulation.

There is when the evidence is incorrectly utilized.

Ayn Rand reasoned from a limited perspective. She did not account for preconventional moral reasoning, and simply assumed conventional moral reasoning in her thought experiments. She then put on blinders and went out into the world, ignorant of far too much, and tried spreading a message that was utterly wrong.

So yes, Ayn Rand's work needs to be archived under "almost but not quite" and treated as such only.


Even DH Lawrence was limited in his reasoning. He was close to universal ethics; but still had class stratification controlling elements of his perspective.

Re: Ayn Rand quote

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:53 pm
by Orenholt
mwolf wrote:I am officially positing my request to dispatch Ayn Rand from the entirety of history.


Her arguments are violently flawed. Libertarianism breeds collectivism through the necessity of nationalism and other forms of conformity. One cannot have a lawless society without universal ethics and expect there to be social acceptance of individuality.
Some say that good men do not need rules and bad men will not follow them.